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A friend of mine Capt Thomas Tucker, is a historical consultant, is selling some of his period garb etc.. It's all very authentic. If you are interested contact him at 803-985-7876 or Heartofoak1764@aol.cpm Here's his inventory: SALES INVENTORY________________________________________________ Purser’s Slops & Misc. Clothing Items #1. 1660-1700 summer weight long coat, dark blue linen, natural brown hemp lined, typical restoration period mariner’s or buccaneer’s coat, with brass buttons down to bottom of front, short sleeves with slash cuff, hand sewn button holes, museum quality, one functioning pocket, size 42-44,……………………………………..………………….$200. #2. 1660-1700 summer weight buccaneer or soldier’s coat, light brown fabric, like hemp but probably fustian, large bucket cuffs, matching cloth covered buttons [hand sewn over metal buttons,] hand sewn button holes, various period fabric patch-work lining, button holes down to bottom of front, museum quality, one functioning pocket, size 42-44,……………………………………………………………..$170. #3. Knee breeches, late 17th-early 18th century, blue fustian, cloth covered hand sewn buttons, size 34-36, used slightly,………………………………..…$35. #4. Seaman’s jacket, sleeved waistcoat, size 44 or a bit larger, brown wool, brown linen lining, with large pewter buttons, functioning pocket, hand sewn buttonholes, museum piece,………………………………………………………………………………………$150. #5. Seaman’s jacket, short ‘shell jacket” style, single breasted, brass buttons, dark indigo heavy wool, off white fustian lined, no pockets, sleeve flaps trimmed with white wool tape, typical 1760s – Age of nelson styling, hand sewn button holes in contrasting off white thread, museum quality, size 40,………………………………………...…...$150. #6. Early Pea Coat, 1730s-1780s style, [no collar, early pattern lapels] real heavy “fearnought” indigo wool, blue tick lined, big brass buttons, double breasted, functioning pocket, will fit medium to large person, hand sewn buttonholes, museum quality,………………………………………………………………………..…………....$200. #7. White dress shirt, linen like weave cotton, no frills or ruffles, new,…………………….………$50. #8. Gentleman’s frock coat, heavy cotton, dark burgundy, dark blue lined, with with hand sewn cloth covered large buttons, black thread hand sewn buttonholes, size 40-42, new,…………………………………………………….….$175. #9. Old Stockings, thin cotton, reddish light brown, slightly used,…………………..……...………$5. #10. Gentleman’s hat, early cocked style, yellow fancy trim, black cockade, fancy gold button, about a size 7 ¼,………………………………………..…$35. #11. Special Item, British Army bell back tent, with poles , no stakes,……………..…………..$150. Weapons & Accoutrements #12. 1778 Rawles cartridge box with shoulder belt, white,………………….…….…………..…...$50. #13. Shoulder carriage [Godwin belt and buckle] for sword or bayonet, white with oval incised anchor device, usually used for marines, I suggest it for naval officers, non adjustable,…………………………………………….……….……$50. #14. Sea Service Pistol, early style; This is the one Middlesex sells as a “dragoon” pistol. Its identical to the early style sea service pistols and is pictured a lot in Rev. War period art, although not as much as the familiar sea service design that came about during the Queen Anne period. Sold as is, never fired or used, but the lock needs some adjustments to cock right,……………………………………………………………$250. #15. German Hanger, common style with leather scabbard, great condition,………….…..….$100. Civil War Items #16. Union officer’s sack coat, size 42 L this coat was made from a blue blazer from the University shop in new haven, Conn. Super quality wool, with all the ribbon trim being original antique cotton grow grain[hand stitched on]. The buttons are original , a mix of 1872 and CW staff officer’s buttons. Has Lt. Col. Bars, like new coat, hardly worn,…………………………………………………………$150. #17. Union Army vest, with high stand up collar, repro staff buttons, size large, made by Whitewater Trading Co. sutler,…………………………………………..……..$40. #18. Civil War wool socks, gray, slightly used and in good shape,……………………...$5. #19. Gaunlets, medium size, brand new, off white, smooth finish with stitched design on tops!……………………………………………………………………………$40. #20. Union Army trousers, well used, size 36 S, well used,…………………….…….….$25. #21. Civil War period white canvass haversack with silver eagle buttons,………………$15. #22. US 1855 eagle plate with black leather belt, applied silver wreath, new, high quality, will fit up to size 50? Will need to poke some more holes though! Made by F. Burgess I believe,……………………………………………………….……$55. Terms of Sale, All items sold “As Is”, no refunds. The prices are good though. S&H will be added. Cash, money orders, checks only from historical sites or entities! [Except in cases of nepotism, rascalism and cronyism !] __________________________________________________________________________ Thomas Tucker, 1610 Bradford Ct. Rock Hill, SC 29732 803-985-7876 e-mail heartofoak1764@aol.com

It was just published late last year so it should be still in print. You might have to order it online since it strikes me that it'd be popular with the mainstream.

December 16 (Forgot to put my birthday) You're incredibly introverted and introspective. You live inside your head. You spend a lot of alone time meditating and thinking. People see you as withdrawn, and at times they are right. You are caring and deep, but it may be difficult for you to show this side of yourself. Your strength: Your original approach to thinking Your weakness: You tend to shy away from others Your power color: Pale blue Your power symbol: Wavy line Your power month: July Although somewhat true I don't think it represent all of me.

An excellent book! Well reserached and used a lot of primary sources. I like the fact that he is a ex-Navy SEAL. It brings an interesting perspective to the subject. I really like the book. :)

POTC 2 pre-show fun? http://www.vromansbookstore.com/NASApp/sto...s=localinterest And pirate booty to boot! http://www.vromansbookstore.com/NASApp/sto...ter&page=279694

Captain Kidd & the War Against the Pirates by Robert C. Ritchie tells in detail how Kidd got his.

If you mean Under the Black Flag: The Romance & Realities of Life Among the Pirates by David Cordingly, it's very good. Infact I consider it one of the best on the subject. :)

Kass I've e-mailed asking if you could please add the slops pattern to my order. Kill two birds with one stone as it were. I'm getting stoked about this!

Why do people always clothes and such on pugs? It's always bloody pugs!!

Order entered and paid for ! :) Now all I need are trousers. Hey! What else do I have to bitch and moan about Kass!

OOOOOOOOHHHHH!!!!!!! That so bad it hurts!

I think I found something about this in The amusements of old London : being a survey of the sports and pastimes, tea gardens and parks, playhouses and other diversions of the people of London from the 17th to the beginning of the 19th century / by William B. Boulton, with 12 illustrations from contemporary sources, all coloured by hand 1901 pg. 29-31 “In 1722 appeared the following advertisement, which was no doubt typical of others:- ‘Challenge.- I, Elizabeth Wilkinson of Clerkenwell, having had some words with Hannah Highfield, and requiring satisfaction, do invite her to meet me on the stage and box for 3 guineas, each woman holding a half a crown in each hand, and the first woman that drops her money loes the battle. Answer.- I Hannah Highfield, of Newgate Market, hearing of the resolutness of Elizabeth Wilkinson, will not fail, God willing, to give her more blows than words, desiring home blows, and of her on favor. She may expect a good thumping.’ (sounds like before an Ali vs Fraiser fight! ) “They maintained the battle for a long time “ says the London Journal for June 1722, describing this strange battle, “to the no small satisfaction of the spectators.” These Amazons were much in evidence both at Figg’s and elsewhere, and their encounters, no doubt, supplied a pleasant change from the ordinary attractions of the place. These challenges were certainly arranged beforehand, like those emanating from Mr Steele’s acquaintance in the inn box, and the ‘words’ referred to by Elizabeth were in no doubt exchanged over a friendly pot of porter at some favourite house of call near the Fleet Ditch. … The artificial character of the quarrel and of its preliminaries, however, does not appear to have diminished the realities of the encounter. The ladies dressed in “close jacket, short petticoats, and Holland drawers, and with white stockings and pumps.” There is much eloquence in that condition of holding a half crown in each fist. The lady who forgot the rule in the vehemence of the onset and resorted to her natural weapons, lost the day The punishment of the encounter was limited to thumps referred to by Hannah, and that thoughtful condition of the half-crown excluded the scratchings and hair-pullings which might have been expected in the circumstances. There was evidently a recognized band of these hardy women for we read of “Mrs. Stokes, the city championess” desiring to meet “the Hibernian Heroine” at Figg’s for a nominal stake. (I wonder if this is the fight referred to in the show) Nor were feminine encounters confined to the contests of fists. Strange as it may seem to modern ideas, prize-fighters with cold steel were at times assisted by spouses, and matched against other greatly daring ladies who had the help of their husbands. Thus as Malcom relates in1725, “Sutton, the champion of Kent, and a courageous female heroine of that county fought Stokes, at Figg’s, and his much admired consort of London. 40 pounds was to be given to the male and female who gave the most cuts with the sword, and 20 pounds for most blows at quarter-staff, besides the collection in the box.” The entertainments we have described, both at Hockley and other places continued their course with little interruption until the middle of the last century.” I still like to any other information you guys find.

I was watching History International Channel last night a show titled Worst Jobs in the World Urban hosted by Tony Robinson (he'll always be Baldrick in Black Adder to me) testing out the worts jobs in Urban history. One of them was woman fighter. Apparantly these were (early)18th century women who professionaly fought fights barefisted, with swords of varoius types, battle axes, and other type of weapons. Fights were held in the outskirts of London to avoid the law. Fighters could be petite or brawny. And it was stated they fought dirty. It was very shady business The man Robinson talk to said one Irish combatant took a sword slash to the head in round 1. She was sewn up took a swig of whiskey and resumed fighting. Second round she took another sword slash to the head. Again stitcted up swig of whiskey and back at it. Third around took a sword wound to the neck. She lived but had to concede the fight. Tough broad! She would have made one hell of a pirate! :) Has anyone else ever heard of this? Any idea where to get more information?

I took the quote from Bold in Her Breeches edited Jo Stanley pg. 180. The source sited is the PRO Co 137/14/XC/18757. It's thier trial transcripts. Johnson (whoever he was) would not necessarily had access to the trail transcipts. The Frenchmen were volunteers. Thier names were John Bessneck and Peter Cornelian. The women "were very active on board and willing to do anything; that Ann Bonney...handed gun-powder to the men, that when they saw any vessel, gave chase or attacked, they wore men's clothes and at other times, they wore women's clothes; that they did not seem to be kept or detained by force, but of their own fre-will and consent." Another witness Dorothy Thomas testified that: "wore men's jacket's and long trouser, and handkerchiefs tied about their heads: and that each of them had a machet and psitol in thier hand and cusred and swore at the men to murder; and that they should kill her [Thomas]to prevent her from coming against them; and [Thomas] further siad, That the reason of her knowing and beleiving them to be women then was by the largness of thier breasts. There is a copy of the state papers somewhere in the libray. I just can't remember right now if it's in book or microfilm form.

That's great! I really should look at my copy of Laroon.

What I recall at first they were in disguise but eventually outed. By then the crew had accepted them as one of their own and they dressed as they damn well pleased. :) Yes women of the period did not wear Elizabethan period bodices. Were short gowns in by the? I can't remember.

I know your are hon. I'm just excited about getting the jacket and trousers made. :) I know quality counts with you and I admire that.

Chambers cites a lot of state papers and personal paper (e.g. Sir Henry Sidney) in her endnotes. I tend go with the verasity of state documents. But I'll leave this to another thread in Capt Twill sometime. :) As to Bonney and Read testimony from two captive Frenchmen states: "... That when they saw any vessel, gave chase or attacked they wore men's cloathes; and at other times, they wore women's clothes" It makes sense. I mean have you every tried fight with a pistol and cutlass in a skirt?! Trousers make sense in battle even if everyone knows your a woman!

In the transcipts of the trial of Anne Bonney & Mary Reed it states that both women wore women's clothes except when an action as to take place then they switched to men's clothing. Yes women pirates did sometimes wear men's clothing ti disguies themselves but did wear women's clothing as well. Well according to a biography I have Granuaile: Ireland's Pirate Queen C. 1530-1603 by Anne Chambers on Grainne she certainly did sail on her ships and she was considered a pirate by the English. State documents say it so. Elizabeth let her go couse Granuaile agreed to not attack English ships only Spanish ones, for a pnesion and her son's realease. Sorry Kass ML aside She was a pirate and a damn good sailor by all accounts of the time. :) I check if Chambers says whether or not Granuaile wore men's clothing or not. Ahem! Speaking of sailor's jacket Kass.

A large group of us PRP (aroud 40 so far) are going, in garb, to the El Capatain on Saturady July 8. Dinner at Hamburger Hamlet beforhand and maybe ice cream at Cold Stone afterwards. Looking forward to it I am! :)

Here it is: Pirate's Life for Him -- at Age 9 Remains recovered from an 18th century wreck are identified as those of John King, a youngster who joined Capt. Black Sam Bellamy. By Thomas H. Maugh II, Times Staff Writer June 1, 2006 Underwater archeologists have identified the partial remains of the youngest known pirate to ply U.S. waters, a 9-year-old boy who eagerly joined Capt. Black Sam Bellamy's crew on the infamous Whydah. Teenage pirates were quite common during the early 18th century, but "this is the youngest one I have ever come across," historian Ken Kinkor of the Expedition Whydah Sea-Lab & Learning Center in Provincetown, Mass., said Wednesday in announcing the discovery. ADVERTISEMENT The young pirate's idyll aboard the Whydah did not last long. The ship foundered in a storm off Cape Cod only three months after he joined, crashing to the sea floor with all but eight of its 180-man crew. Six of the eight survivors were tried and hanged in Boston. The other two escaped punishment, thanks to the efforts of famed lawyer Cotton Mather. The tale of the pirate, identified as John King, was then pretty much lost to history until explorer Barry Clifford used court documents and an early salvage map to locate the Whydah in 1984 — the first time that an authenticated wreck of a pirate ship had been discovered. In the subsequent 20 years, Clifford and his crew of divers have recovered more than 100,000 artifacts from the wreck, bringing them to the surface, conserving them and putting them on display at their museum on the end of a Provincetown pier. The wreck "was like a 300-year-old Wal-Mart on the bottom of the ocean," Clifford said, with an unusually broad variety of artifacts stolen from other ships. Despite the quantity of materials recovered, he added, "we've never really discovered the mother lode of the ship." One thing they did discover was a small shoe, a silk stocking and a small fibula, or lower leg bone. The items had been in storage unremarked for nearly 20 years before Clifford and Kinkor recently made the connection to young John King. John King's fragmentary story is found in a deposition filed with the governor of Antigua on Nov. 30, 1716, by Abijah Savage, commander of the Antiguan sloop Bonetta. As was the usual practice, Savage reported to the governor the details of a pirate attack on his ship. On Nov. 9, the Bonetta was attacked by Bellamy's ship and held for 15 days. The pirates took all of their valuables, including "a Negro Man and an Indian Boy belonging to Mr. Benjamin Wicker" before releasing them. Savage wrote that one John King, who was sailing with his mother as a passenger from Jamaica to Antigua, "deserted his sloop, and went with the Pirates and was so far from being forced or compelled thereto by them as the deponent could perceive or learn that he declared he would Kill himself if he was Restrained, and even threatned his Mother who was then on Board as a Passenger with the Deponent." Such depositions are usually very brief and record only the most striking things that happened, Kinkor said. "It was pretty unusual for Capt. Savage to have recorded it." Kinkor added there were "a variety of reasons why a pirate's life would have appealed to a youngster — a free and easy lifestyle, and a classless democratic subculture." Spurred by this account, Clifford showed the short fibula to expedition archeologist John de Bry and Smithsonian Institution expert David Hunt. Both agreed that the fibula belonged to a child age 8 to 11. The stocking is of woven French silk, Kinkor said, and the shoe — which is only 2 inches in width at its widest point — is of upper-class design and craftsmanship, consistent with it belonging to John King. The shoe and fibula were found adjacent to a large concretion of artifacts that is now on display at the museum. Such concretions occur when iron objects electrolyze in seawater, catalyzing the formation of stone-like materials that bind artifacts together. X-rays of the concretion show that it has many other bones, a possible skull and hundreds of other artifacts buried deep inside. "It's a 300-year-old time capsule," Clifford said. Eventually they may drill into it and use fiber optics to determine if the other bones represent the rest of the boy's skeleton, he said. But they are unlikely to take it apart, he added. "It's much more interesting seeing the X-ray and the bones protruding."

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci...ack=1&cset=true Cut and paste into your browser if need be.

Here's another http://www.moggies.co.uk/html/shipcat.html

I found 3 sites with information about cats on ships: http://www.vividnet.com/~kattepus/catfact.html http://www.pawsonline.info/facts/cats_at_sea.htm http://www.wyrdology.com/cats/at-sea.html There is some stuff in some old Mariner's Mirror I will look at too.

Your past life diagnosis: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't know how you feel about it, but you were female in your last earthly incarnation.You were born somewhere in the territory of modern USA South-Center around the year 1250. Your profession was that of a chemist, alchemist or poison manufacturer. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your brief psychological profile in your past life: You always liked to travel and to investigate. You could have been a detective or a spy. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The lesson that your last past life brought to your present incarnation: You should develop self-love and ability to implant hope into hearts of people. Ambition is not everything. True wealth is buried in your soul. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You know I have always felt I was Native American in past life. Hmm Chemist, Alchemist, poision manufactuor? Does that mean a shaman or some sort? Interesting.