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Feeding Nelson's Navy is good book. One of the advantages as a Library Assistant is I get first crack at every book that comes in. This one I requested it to be cataloged ASAP and charged out to me. It's been a good reference. Oh come on! How can one see a name like Lusty and not want to make jokes!

Feeding Nelson's Navy... page 38: " ...all ships were supplied with fishing tackle which they were meant to use when oppertunity permitted and when 'in a place fish fish could be had'. The resultant catcth was first offered to the sickbay and the remainder shared out among the crew , on a rota system if necessary. The fish was considered to be a free extra item not a substitute for anything else"

I've seen reference to this in Feeding Nelson's Navy: The True Story of Food in the Georgian Era / by Janet MacDonald.

I had turlte soup once. Didn't much like it too fishy for me.

As to how pirates got vitualed, there were many merchants in ports that were more than willing to do business with pirates ( see Pirate Wars by Peter Earle chapter 8 War Against the Pirates ) as the war gainst pirates heated up, and made it ifficult to deal with merchants on land, pirates often plundered ships stores of prizes for provisions (Seee Snelgrave A New Account of Guiena) By hook or by crook they'd get thier carbs!

That be good stuff! I got a large bottle of it as a gift at Yule.

This is a new old book but it's a good one The British Sailor: a Social History of the lower deck / by Peter Kemp London : JM DEnt & Sons Ltd., 1970 It cover from the Tudor period to the end of the 19th c. Might try www.bookfinder.com for it.

Snelgrave mentions punch several times in his captivity narrative. Also mentioned are chicken and other livestock. BTW in The Sea Rovers Practice: Pirate Tactis & Techniques, 1630-1730 by Benerson Little there is an appendix titled Spirits & Belly Timber: Some Culinary History and Recipes for the Adventureous. If you have a copy you might want to check it out.

I have made and ate salamungundi. I know turtle, slat beef and pork were on the menu. I have book on food in the navy it's a bit later time wise (mid to late 18th c.) but the diet didn't really change till the advent of canned food in the 19th cnetury. I have feeding Nelson's Navy:The True Story of Food at Sea in the Georgian Era by Janet MacDonald and Mariner's Mealtimes & Other Daily Details: Life on board a sailing Warship by Una A. Robertson. Feeding Nelson's Navy should be easy to find since it was published in 2004.

Both women (Bonney & Read) had their death sentances temporarily commuted till they gave birth after which they were to be executed. Mary Read died from a fever in childbirth. What excatly happnede to Anne Bonney is uncertain but it is reumored (and I'm inclined to beleive) that her rich plantainon owning father bailed her out on the promise she do excatly what she was told to do by him. From what I've seen if a women plead her belly her sentance was temporarely suspeded till the birth of the child then sentance carried out wheter it was transportation or death.

I wish I could afford this! <sigh>

Well whoever it was he was certainly easy on the eyes!

There was a pretty good documentary on Capt. Henry Morgan last night on the Discovery Times channel. Richard Earle (Pirate Wars) and Ronald Hutton (goodeness knows why he was on!). It should among other things Morgan's Ship's Articles and letter of Marque. If you see it listed watch it! :)

Great Ed!

I'd hold out for a fifth of single malt if I was you girl :)

And you, the soul of indecency.......... Got to try harder, Lass. Hawkyns Just because I'm the Soul of Indeceny it doesn't mean I want to be arrested for it Hawkyns!

Yep that's the one. According to the trial transcripts an eyewitness, Dorothy Thomas describes Reed & Bonney wearing a man's shirt, trousers, men's coat and thier hair ited into kercheifs.

Kas I've been trying to reconstruct the clothing Anne bonney and Mary Read wear as depeicted in the 2nd ed. of GHP (except I don't want my boobs a bout to fall out of my shirt ). Will you have patterns suited to that? It's similar to what the action figure of Anne Bonney has on. The patterns look great BTW. :) Thanks

There's a book on this subject: Those vulgar tubes : external sanitary accommodations aboard European ships of the fifteenth through seventeenth centuries /by Joe J. Simmons III College Station : Texas A&M University Press ; London : Chatham Pub., c1998, c1997 ISBN 0890967881 (pbk. : alk. paper) If you have a copy of the deluxe DVD on Master & Commander/The Farside of the World there is a deleted scene showing a seaman using the seat of ease while the HMS Surprise is in the Antartic Ocean. Brrrrrr! So I guess ordinary seaman didn't have the comfort of a chamber pot below decks.

Here's something a bit different but still relevent to us. Two article on historical reenactment in Criticism a Quarterly for Literature & the Arts v.46 no.3 Summer 2004. The Use & Abuse of Historical Reenactment: Thougts on Recent Trends in Public History by Aleaxander Cookpg.487-496 The Little Ship of Horrors: Reeenacting Extreme History by Iian MaCalman pg.477-486 You can get copies of these wo articles from me for the cost of copying and postage. If you want one please PM me.

You're welcome Capt. Morgan you salty dog you! Thank you for being a good and honorable Marine. Even though you know I disagree about the war I'm glad there are people like you over there. I been wondering how you and your family are doing. :)

Actually he did make landfall on Central America (Panama) and South America (Venusela) and his third voyage. Almost crossed the ismus of Panama to see the Pacific Ocean but turned back. To the day he died he thought he had discovered a route to Asia. Did you know he thought the Island of Hispanola was Japan? As to the Earth being flat even in anceint times there were people who thought the Earth was round. There was a Greek philosopher in Egypt (his name escapes me right know) who calulated the circumference of the earth using the sun's shadow. He was only off by a few tthousand miles.

Good to see you back where you brlong Capt. William! Just in time for the holidays. :) Despite all her woes I hope New Orleans has a happy holiday season. May the New Year birth rebirth to a wondeful city that I have always wanted to visit. :)

According to The Pirate's Who's Who by Phillip Gosse Capt. Yeates was: "In 1718 this Carolina pirate commanded a sloop which acted as tender to Cpat. Vane. When at Sullivan Island, Carolina, Yeates, finding himself master of a fine sloop armed with several guns and a crew of fifthteen men, and with a valuablr cargo of slaves aboard, slipped his anchor in the middle of the night and sailed away. Yeates thought highly of himself as a pirate and long resented the way Vane treated him as a subordinate, and was glad to get a chance of sailing on his own account. Yeates having escaped came to north Edisto River, some ten leagues off Charleston. There sending hurried word to the governor to ask for the royal pardon, he surrendered himself, his crew, and two negro slaves. Yeates was pardoned, and his negroes were returned to Capt. Thruston, from whom they had been stolen. Hope this helps.

While not part of my period repetroire I started to learn by ear "Yo ho Yo Ho a Pirate's Life for me" Also a new scale C major to go with it. I hadn't been able to find the sheet music so I gave a recording to my teacher and she figured out the notes (learning by ear skills aern't up to snuff yet). Three bars out of a 5 bar song!