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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh-----and have i got an idea for you all as far as making a model casting of yourself to place/ fit garments on...... comes from my oldest boy who also costumes........ he amazes me--- !!!

WOOD GLUE AND STRIPS/ SHIRT on skin tight til dries { wear plastic garbage bag}...strand sit infront of fan or add quick paint drying agent.....

CUT OFF when dry---- then you close it by , get this---- LACING-- stuff it with whatever-- mount on pole --

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You may also want to reference Chole's blog for her Duct Tape Double ~ a similar concept, without the drying time.

I have the duct tape double blog saved... its a matter of getting someone to help me! I guess I'll have to coerce hubby into doing it. =)

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"I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers

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Oy! Cheeky... be THIS by any chance one of those lacy head thingies like th' ones ye wear?

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The Met Museum had this there and only labeled it as Lace from 18th c, only details they had were it was made of linen in Venice. ~Lady B

Ooo, now that's a lovely example of a Fontage, Lady B. And it's probably the first quarter of the 18th century, also.

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Cheeky-- you simply MUST give tutorials on hairdos for the Gaop---{ please, please, pretty gorgeous please!!}

all the caps i have seen online are simply wretched!!!

having seen you and met you, i KNOW you know this stuff....and WELLLL do you know this!!

tis the fru fru stuff i am soooooooo into!!!

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as far as second skin models---> ahh yes the dh loves to wrap me in cello wrapping.. and then somehow, he simply cant bear to put the duct tape on after that.......but there is something rather appealing to my help when we are talking about a t shirt that must be pasted to me..... and having to sit there as it dries.... { hot blow driers aid the process!!}

wood glue HARDENS!! linen strips and muslin strips work well.... infact you can semi dry each peice as they are applied... { aids drying time}

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capn sterling--- darling, i donot beleive there are any such *easy* directions for anything made from historical garments....so i doubt any one could hold that against ye, cap'n....nay - no one!

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Lady Brower----- ah yes --real life some how does get in the way of sewing projects!!

peace and plenty of project time hoped for all of you!

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So that IS a Fontage? (Yeah, had a brainfart at post midnight last night when I posted that)

So.. um... what is that messy stuff that seems to stiffen it? I tried to get a closer look at it and was baffled.

They had quite a bit of piccies of lace online... A bit bewildered though what the use of some of them.

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Cheeky-- you simply MUST give tutorials on hairdos for the Gaop---{ please, please, pretty gorgeous please!!} All the caps i have seen online are simply wretched!!!

Hairdos?!?!...hmm...Okay, pull your hair back into a bun and cover your head?!?! Tada! At least this is what I've seen in paintings for the common woman of the time.

Court and Upper Class women did a few things differently. Because of their status and wealth they could afford hair-dressers and wigs. This goes with say, they would be the top of fashion.

The Silacious Historian's Lair is a wonderful place to find a ton of information. Nicole Kipar's website includes historical notes on the French and English. Listed is everything from manners to court and common dress. I highly recommend taking some time to look about - especially at the period art work she has.

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So that IS a Fontage? (Yeah, had a brainfart at post midnight last night when I posted that).

So.. um... what is that messy stuff that seems to stiffen it?

I tried to get a closer look at it and was baffled. They had quite a bit of pieces of lace online... A bit bewildered though what the use of some of them. Lady B

The stiffener was likely starch, though, I am not sure that was the only producted used to stiffen linen back then.

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:::Shrugs:::

I did a close inspection (as best I could since it got a tad fuzzy) on the Met site... and it was the lace on some fabric and under that fabric was this sort of mesh. Ye see the mesh at the bottom or the base of the fontage headpiece.. that wee strip of white something that's sticking out... I'm a bit bewildered about that.

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That's it! Th' bottom image!... that's the fontage!

So... umm... was it removable and could attatch to different caps? or was this just one of those pieces where it's missing a part of it cause it was removed at some point in time.

And that mantua with that fontage, that's from the Met, too, isn't it? Or was that else where? I remember seeing that while googling.

Cheeky... if it's horsehair... now I'll be kickin' m'self. Cause I had not but a couple months ago horse hair from a fine white Arabian show horse. Blast it! :P

Oh, so many questions! But also answers some questions, too.

Interesting.

~Lady B

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Ahhh. that would make sense why the Met has so many lace pieces. I wondered if they were removed.

The salmon mantua is very lovely, too.

~Lady B

Tempt Fate! an' toss 't all t' Hell!"

"I'm completely innocent of whatever crime I've committed."

The one, the only,... the infamous!

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Steering the discussion back to mantuas for a moment....

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Full Length. It's not bustled yet. That is a whole separate can of worms...and I lost my can opener.

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A closer up detail of the front and stomacher. A very plain stomacher, but I don't feel the need for all of the frippery for this one. I like it a bit simpler with the matching belt. :)

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Hmmm ye wouldn't want to take on the role of a Bawdy house "Mother" now would ye? We could do with someone who would beat a little sense and respect into some of these whor.... ahem... courtesans...

Yes, Brother dear... I am here to remind my doxys of their place.

ermine... indeed. Thinks she's as good as the Queen of France does she?

Nothing but trouble that girl. I should have left her groveling in the filth where I found her.

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Well see there, one good reason for her to make a good wife...

If you were here I would smack you in the head for starting trouble like you do. I know my Brother to be a fool, but stupid....no.

Marriage is for the getting of heirs.... think on that when you look into the eyes of any would be future wives. Besides you will tire of her as you do with all of hem.

I have a lovely new Lass fresh from Derbyshire with rosy cheeks and hair like silk. Her father gave her to settle a bill and she is ripe for the plucking. Shall I save her for you dear?

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LMAO! :lol:

Another flower fo' Sterlin' t' pluck! Oh, dear. Poor lass.

Mistress... If I may... if Sterlin' need not want th' lass... I could purchase th' lass from ye. I could make of good use with such a blooming flower. I'm sure some gent somewhere 'll want a sweet girl as that for a done deal Wife. :blink:

~Lady B

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The one, the only,... the infamous!

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LMAO! <_<

Another flower fo' Sterlin' t' pluck! Oh, dear. Poor lass.

Mistress... If I may... if Sterlin' need not want th' lass... I could purchase th' lass from ye. I could make of good use with such a blooming flower. I'm sure some gent somewhere 'll want a sweet girl as that for a done deal Wife. <_<

~Lady B

Lady B,

Stop by one afternoon and we can disguss your needs. This young Miss in particular seems to have been brought to the right house. It would seem that despite her angelic face and proven innocence she is quite excited to .... ahem.... "learn the ropes" as one might say. Oh yes, I will be keeping this one.

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