Dutchman

" I think that there is metions if straw hat and few of those can well be tricorns..... " it makes logical sense, but speculating does me no good i'm afraid.

dude- you have your own thread on hat straps! kidding, maybe we can find answers to both our searches! i love the cuffs matching the weskit. check out the size of the shoe buckles too! also the folded umbrella. I wonder what the material is?

made something for the chamber pot?

william, you're exactly right- thats why i felt the need to break it out. i would love to be able to say straw tricorns are p.c., but one artists rendering doesn't cut it in my book. Does it raise a doubt and make a good case to keep looking though? yup! i've seen hats take all sorts of style changes after use so who knows what the person life style or work habits have changed a hat into over time. edit- swashbuckler, i deleted the two posts you put in the wrong thread.

the cargo tent was dorian and josephines doing. was trully amazing watch it all go together. the icing on the cake for me was the detail of the gold and silver bars. wish was real!

as i told the folks at jamestown, was their own damned fault! the judges told us we didn't have enough stuff so thais was our reply.

straw flat brim hats are documented but not straw tricorns. seems this picture has been around the block......... our friends over at historical trekkers beat this hat a while back- for our perusal---- http://www.historicaltrekking.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8933&sid=4bb7d14d14d3a005240e85f1d7514fe8

books are packed i'm afraid. will take a while to get back to them, but this has my interest so it'll be on a to do list once i can get back into the research mode

leghorn is a rooster in southern climates straw tricorns abound and often lead to scrutiny by the PC folks. I have not been able to find any documentation one way or the other until this picture came up, which now creates a suspicion of such- but still does not confirm it was done or who/ what class would wear them in what situation.

mission, thats the thory of piss tubs. i have not run across any documentation on them though- not that i have been looking for it either. it would make some sense to use piss buckets in this fasion on larger ships where the tumbleholm may foul or tip a water bucket coming up the hull. I do have an illustration somewhere that shows the bilge pumps of a ship emptying on deck and having leather hoses (more like tubes) to direct the flow overboard or (i imagine, no proof though) onto a fire if needed. the other issue with the bilge pumps is keeping them primed. if you lose the prime it takes a while to get them flowing, which would be bad for fire fighting. if grace has not packed the books, i'll take a looksee

hoho- now our fearless felines are in on the craze! http://now.msn.com/now/0330-fresh-step-bacon.aspx

and after all the bacon knacks ye off.......... http://www.theindychannel.com/news/30802785/detail.html

hit good will or similar thrift store mid summer, best time to get them for a buck or two.

swashbuckler will have to date it since he posted originally. the guess is 1730ish, per the other thread

so here is the dilemma. is there any written documentation of straw tricorns? i know we had straw hats so that's not even up for debate, but i'm wondering about tricorn.

ok, ok, it looks like capt. jim, but what does the hat look like?

hey mates, pulled this picture from another thread. looking at the hat on the right, I have a question- and I'm sorry we are going here. what does the hat appear to be made of in the painting? the artist has clearly made the hat on the left look old and "Soft" with wonderful shadowing. The hat on the right has held its tricorn shape, but what about the horizontal brush streaks. Based on the hat on the left, the artist knows how to do a hat. regarding the right side hat, based on the color and horizontal stripes may this be a cursed straw tricorn?

....... well then pack yer seabag!

history is often written by the winners and noone EVER exaggerates to sell a story. if history is written well after the fact by participants, it often becomes skewed. look at the john smith journals of the chesapeake bay exploration. written years later after illness, alcohol, and time, surviving participants of the journey wondered if they were on the same trip at times. information may be found to be not recorded or transcribed properly. then "I think" jumps in and someone on the net posts it, gives their impression and it is taken as gospel. I digress, this horse has been beaten, kicked, hung back out and run over more than once. Swashbuckler, I might suggest you ask folks for places to look for references and search them out. one turned stone may lead to another that may not be as common. plus, you never know what may be found that is completely irrelevant to your original query but starts a whole new chapter.

how the heck had i missed this? the stick the sailor is carrying may be used to beat ropes into round when they are made. lets look at history for a second. one of the issues of the boston massacre was that british sailors and militia were coming ashore and moonlighting at loyalist factories, specifically at the many rope walks in boston. how better to ensure no rebels were working for you than to employ soldiers and sailors. tensions rose after an incident at a rope walk. either a soldier heckled a rebel worker or viceverse- i don't remember which off hand.tensions rose and the rest is history. so the sticks used at ropewalks- when the ropes are made occasionally an extra warp ends up in the lines and makes an uneven bump. to fix these while they are still on the rope walk you can beat the imperfection flat into the rope. with around 30 rope walks active in boston at the time, these sticks would have been everywhere. note- i'm calling it ROPE,its still at the factory. now back to our regularly scheduled thread.

http://www.colonialseaport.org/blog/

welcome aboard. a few of us are from virginia as well. have yer pop keep the first weekend in june free and join us at the hampton blackbeard festival. family friendly pirate festival.

it looks like a market stall. at the time there was a tax for vendors on tent steaks in the ground. the trick was to make your vendors stall free standing. i've seen one or two at marketfairs or colonial williamsburg, but you're right no where near enough varieties of sales stalls out there. of course, the nut that takes his own buildings to living history events is saying its easy to do...... so take it with a grain of salt.

ah i forgot about that thread. thanks mission! First hand accounts are great!

During one of our many conversations with Kevin Duffus on the last days of Black Beard, the topic of Christmas on the island for the survivors of the battle came up. Obviously, the captured pirates had little to look forward to but how about Maynards crew? I'll have to dig for it, but somewhere I ran across a description of spirits, song and prayer on board a R.N. vessel, maybe gun fire but i don't remember for certain. Heck, I don't even remember which journal i found it in. maybe teonge? Has anyone run across any other descriptions of festivities aboard ship for other religs or national holidays durring the period?