Skull pyrate Carter

Yeah they were some good times:

all i can tell you is that I've fired my share of mortars, and they are fun. plus now they use nitro , these funky little squares that look like cheese.

yeah, so I sent him an email asking if he can back up the boots thing.

okay my first real research into this discussion. (http://podiatry.curtin.edu.au/boot.html#chop) Cameron Kippen, Curtin Universty of Technology, Perth WA states on his site: Boots of the Sixteenth Century During the sixteenth century boots were worn by the military or part of hunting attire. As war tore through Europe in the following centuries, boots again became the fashion. High boots were popular in Spain where they seemed to originate from. Henry IV of France (1589-1610) enjoyed wearing the best of leathers and relalised the craftmen in Franch were inferior to elsewhere. He commissioned a tanner to study leather work in Hungary where the old trades still existed. His influence made boots very fashionable in France and they were allowed to be worn in salons as well as on the dance floor. The style of boots varied relating to whatever purpose they were put to. Boots were distinctively men's fashion everybit as much as the codpiece. According to Girotti (1997) to make the boots fit tightly around the leg, they were first soaked in water. Once they dried on the leg it was very difficult for the man wearing the boots to bend their knees. Dismounted horsemen walked with stiffened legs. This may have given rise to a distinctive swaggering gait which at the time was considered very macho. Boots of the Seventeenth Century By the beginning seventeenth century boots had become fashionable for men and were worn at the English court during Charles I reign. (1600-1649). Charles suffered from osteomalacia (rickets) as a child and was feared would never walk without the aid of calipers. The Royal shoemaker designed boots which has concealed brass supports in the heel and ankle. Once an adult he was able to walk without the aid of his supports but continued to wear boot for preference. Tightly fitting boots became the fashion and were folded back into deep tops. The front flap of the boots provided a handsome strap to fit spurs onto. Later soft boots with baggy creases and full tops became the fashion at European courts. Ladies continued to wear slippers with pointed toes and in some cases high heeled pumps. (Burnett, 1926). Cordoba was the centre for leather craft in Europe and the term cordwainer refers to a man who has derived his craft from the Spanish city of Cordoba. Craftsmen were sent to Cordoba to learn the secrets of the leather trade and bring them back to France. Cordoban boots were soft and worn crumpled or with a kink. A large piece of leather shapped like a butterfly was stitched across the instep to hold the golden or silver rowel spurs. A soulette was a strap fastened under the foot, which also held the spur in position. Poor quality boots were made from cow hide which was heavier but more durable. The lace edged boothose were worn inside the boot and were made from linen. These protected the delicate silk stockings from being soiled by the leather. From 1610 onwards boots were worn indoors, sometimes with an overshoe. (After peace was ratified in the Treaty of Westphilia in 1648, boots were no longer worn indoors.) Riding boots were worn high with widely flared or funnel tops protecting the knee when riding. This part of the boot could be turned down for town wear. Already in 1627 gentlemen were wearing light coloured boots with red heels and the edges of the soles were stained red. Under Louis XIII (1601-1643) a shorter, lighter model of boot known as the Ladrine was worn. By 1630 a protective additional sole or golosh made from thick leather or wood was used to keep the fine boots and shoes from the dirt of the streets. Boots were only accepted for riding, hunting and walking by this time. Restoration of the Stuarts to the English thrown (1660) brought the heeled boot to England. Men wore boots with very long stockings which flared at the top of the leg and caught the foot with a strap under the instep. These were worn over silk stockings. Boots were worn tight on the leg but the top could be turned over. The footwear was made of soft leather.The Cavalier boot had a very wide top which could be turned down for town wear, showing silk or coloured leather lining. The width of the leg had increased and the boots were worn wide across the toes. Toes became square and this fashion remained popular till the end of the century. Aristocracy preferred light, high heeled shoes and boot but the working class wore more practical and cheaper shoes, which were low heeled. Usually dark brown, with leather latchet ties, deep square toes and closed sides. In 1660 the France of Louis XIV became the fashion capital and shoes for men were preferred over boots. From 1660 onwards decorative frills, or cannons, were worn below the knee and hence shoes became more popular. At the end of the reign of Charles II (1630-85) the militarty still wore an old style heavy boot. This was replaced by a light leather leggings covering the boot called houseaux. The heavy boot was still used for riding. In 1663 the first seamless boot was made by a Gascon shoemaker called Lestage. King William of Orange (1650-1702) introduced the jackboot, which was of sturdy construction and worn high above the knee, quartered, and heeled with immense breadth for the toes. Thigh high boots were fashionable for soldiers and horsemen, Worn tight on the calf they were ample enough to be folded over in a buccaneer fashion above the knee. Sometimes covered in decoration with punched designs they covered the whole leg and were held in place with garters or suspenders from the doublet. The above knee section was known as bucket tops and were worn with leathers and spurs. The boot offered protective armour to the leg and is still worn by the Housuehold Cavalry. Before the advent of gum boots the style of boot was worn by fishwermen. Thigh high boots were originally worn by pirates and smugglers, who tucked contraband or "booty" into them. The practice gave rise to the term, "bootlegging'. Boots of the Eighteenth Century During the eighteenth century boots had surpassed shoes as the fashionable footwear for men. They became more refined and slimmed down in style. Worn with turned down tops, lined in brown, to contrast with the black leather of the rest of the boot, the top boots were distinctly elegant. The style was based on the boots worn by horse jockeys who partook in the newly fashionable sport of horse racing (Baynes K , Baynes K, 1979). The black and brown boots worn to below the knee were for outdoors. O'Keeffe, (1996) considered women would have less need to venture outdoors and hence their shoes were more flimsy by comparison. Tans and pale shades were popular with the gentry. Dandified young Englishmen became obsessed with all things foreign and were christened Macaronis by satirists. They used to have iron heel clips fitted to draw attention to themselves as they walked through the streets. George Beau Brummell (1790- 1840) epitomised the new age macho dresser and as a dandy was quite different to fops of the previous century. Brummell had certain ideocynrcacies and was reputed to have his boots polished with champagne. Not only that he insisted in having the soles of his boots polished at the same time as the uppers. The reason being he was concerned the edge of the boots were not perfectly shined. Brummell sported the two most popular styles of the time. These were the English, John Bull (or tall boot) and the Austrian, Hess boot. Hess boots took their name from the German state of Hesse, where they were made. The hesse boot was knee high and cut on a V at the front. Often the boot had a decorative tassle. In time the Wellington boot superceded the popularity of the hessian boot (also called Souvaroffs). This was a slim cut leather boot which was worn under narrow trousers. Napolean boots cut high in the front and worn to the knees first appeared round about 1730. The design allowed the knee to bend as well as offer protection to the joint when exposed during horseriding. It was common practice to wear long woollen stockings under the knee high riding boots. The laced ankle boot we know associate with modern militaria originated from the Blucher shoe which was based on a boot worn by Prince of Wahlstadt, Gebhard Leberecht von Blucher, a Prussian field Marshall. His popularity was second only to Wellington as a hero of the battle of Waterloo. The blucher or derby was a high cut shoe with a tongue cut in one piece with the forepart and fastened with laces. Women's boots were a modified version of men's footwear designed for equestrian persuit. However it did not escape the attention of French writer and wit, Nicolas-Sebastien Chamfort (1741-1794), who wrote in Maxims's and Considerations of the common habit for ladies to tip their man servents to help remove their tight boots. Chamfort was of course referring to flirtations resulting from exposure of forbiden flesh. A common practice among the upper classes. In 1770 boots were introduced to dandies who started to wear their boots to half calf. Splatter dashes were puttees or leggings that buttoned on the inside of the leg and worn to protect the delicate silk hose during inclement weather. Jockey boots were introduced in 1780. However the need to protect feet from the elements necessitated new materials be developed and during the 1790's patent leather became available. Shoes and boots treated with the new process became a very popular fashion on both sides of the Atlantic. By the end of the century young men wore the popular hussar bushkins which were short boots with a dip in the front, mid tibia. French top boots with a turned over top were also fashionable. V-fronted tasselled hessian boots were made from soft leather and proved popular with men. just one source. But think about it. We spend time looking at records and paintings. Wouldn't someone such as a podiatrist maybe hold the key to this discussion?

One thing about the paintings in armor. They were posed pictures. So, they were wearing what they wanted in the painting, not what they wear. Correct?

dang it, that's what i meant to buy with my tax returns... a ship..

Wait, wait. Are we even sure pirates had Scabbards?

First off, a faire is about enjoyment. So anyone that isn't enjoying themselves enough to waste my time with explaining how my outfit isn't up to their standards needs to bugger off and enjoy a pint. I'm just sayin. And I have gone thru about 1/2 of the 220 + posts in Petee's discussion on Boots. But I do find it odd that people were on ships with boots until 1690, then on Jan. 1st 1691 everyone decided to make a lasting new years resolution not to wear boots until 1721. If we have proof of sailors/fisherman/pirates wearing boots until 1691, and we have proof that the same types of people were wearing said feetware after 1720, wouldn't it stand to reason that there is a good chance that they were worn during that period, but for one reason or another, it never was documented? Imagine if someone in the future was to look at our artwork, movies, stories and come up with their conclusions of what life was like today. I'm sure they would state that our society had flying cars, all our wives looked like Jessica Simpson, and that Saddam had WMD... Anyways... Just wanted to interject.

okay, who let petee travel?

I know mine is in here, but Redd's made me impressed, and Petee's only looks good because I presented the challenge and he updated it... which i do adore as well.

Aww, crap. I just found out I was in this competition... which is funny because I designed a few others on here, and theirs aren't on here... Jayme's, Leatherneck's, etc... Thanks guys... It seems the others had more mentions than mine, but truly It is true about the "just being nominated" thing..

Question, Diego. Could Petee bring his cannon?

I know about the dressing to period and what not, but anyone who knows me in my outfit, knows I'm more about trying to capture that feeling of the time, not trying to redocument it. I was wearing those tacky 19 dollar boot toppers, and they got me thru coronaberg, ojai and our holloween pyrate fest, barely. I'm sorry about the girl who got flamed, that was innappropriate, however...pyrate. I think Petee showed us some evidence that it wasn't unknown to wear boots, and I am inclined to believe boots make better feetwear for a person in a pirates' life. especially the style most referred to with the cuffs that come down. As a grunt, I couldn't imagine that lifestyle in shoes, even if we do have evidence stating otherwise. Thanks for the links, and it was the potc boots I was looking for, just forgot where they were to be found, and was curious about other sites and styles. Thanks. Now drink some rum everyone and shuttup, already. Besides, boots or shoes, they are just something to put under some lasses' bed, anyways.

Yeah, it was the CABOOTS I wanted. Maybe I shall have enough coin in my pocket.

Okay, yes I've seen SCA Boots. And yes, I looked for a similiar posting in Plunder, to no avail. I was sure I'd seen a post before, but here goes, I've got $$ coming back from Uncle Sam, and after I spoil myself with a new computer (imac g5 it's sooo sweet), anyways I need a pair of boots. Where would you scurvy dogs suggest I go?

My availability shadows Petee's, but we could car pool. Also Petee and I are Graphic Designers, which could be helpful... we both also have a bit of background in acting, a little.

Understandable, my good friend.

And all these years, I thought Petee was original with this belief!

Thanks, Callenish Aye, but she is the one that makes the picture.

Aye, is Diego coming to visit tommorrow?

Just wanted to remind you that Red and I are willing to join, our lives be a bit hectic, but we will be needin' our pyrate excursions to help us not let life get too serious.

You all know my beautiful Lass, Red Jayme Flint. Disney Cast Member Party King Tut Exhibit And in Garb

I have worked long enough in restaraunts to know one thing. THe openings always suck. It takes a bit of time and practice for the people to find their groove and get the hang of things.... I bet in a lil' while the place will be cool.

Queer Eye 4 the Straight Guy

This one is for Lady Renee and all you other "Pun"dits. True story, but I thought it was funny afterward. I was talking to a co-worker and was telling her how I had found a website to help increase your memory in 14 days, However I forgot where I saw it. anyways, the stupid humour doesn't end there. Here's my all-time favorite joke, and I've remembered it since third grade. Q. What do you get when you mix a joke book & a motorcycle? A. A Yam-a-Ha-Ha-Ha!!