Swashbuckler 1700

Umm I did not get what you mean. if you mean that striped breeches were not used then what is this from slop clothing: " Striped Ticken Breeches of proper lengthes, lined with white linen, and two linen Pockets, with Sixteen Black Buttons, the Button Holes stiched with Black Thread, at the rate of five Shillings each ". Sorry but English glossary of sewing is not my strong skill...

Indeed You are rigth David has done almost all clothing stuff there. I think that Konstam is not too good but not bad author either but he has done many many errors in many books etc..... Indeed there is no consesus or propably never will .....

Oh indeed they look odd and that guy looks like Carl Lumbly. However these pictures are still one of the most accurate representations made yet and I think that they are so bad that there is serious need for better pictures and books.. Why anyone has not done it better... Whyyyyy!!!!!! It should not be so hard but it seems that it is hard after all.... I hope you understand me ( with language of course)

FWIW, having made and worn the garments mentioned in the Admiralty slop contracts, I am 99% certain that the 'waistcoats' of Welsh red or ticking were the 'sailors' jackets' that we identify in pictoral evidence (though I acknowledge that several pictures show another garment under the 'jacket'). The grey kersey jacket comes out longer (based on the 1730s measurements) than the jackets shown in the pictures and is a superb warm and waterproof. rather than every day wear. What about striped waistcoats? or did you mean that ticking ones as striped waistcoats. I would like some pictures please? Actually those jackets in this book ( oh now this is here also ...oh well ). They look rather heavy and those back buttons create impression of coats.

This new is better than old ones but it is still not too good http://www.amazon.co...r/dp/1849084971. First book where I see pirates with derbys on their heads ( period sailor's hats seems to still have little more brim while sailors prefered small hats those look odd. (like In here we can see little bigger brim hat note one man in tent) http://jcb.lunaimagi...~2~2&mi=0&trs=1) Their vision of Rn leather caps is really not justified. While it may be near the truth it has certainly been dreamed up and they are something like grenadier caps. It seems also that they are little too excited with fur hats.... there is also no Trump caps at all ( I know I have seen most pirate clothing pages in it) Here is some pics I have found on the web I have read much of the book in different reviews. Note that there is also both stuff from 1690s and 1700s in same place mixed with odd "Gaop combination". for example I have not found references to checkered petticoat breeches after 1690s. I also wonder why jackets have no mariners cuffs??? Those back buttons in jackets looks also odd same with Maynard and those slop jackets have too many buttons not 15 but more like 24 buttons in them. I also feel that slop clothing is too popular among Rn sailors since ALL of them use them. There is also need for onion bottles. The book in indeed one of the best osprey books but it could be much better while I don't like it is actually one of the most accurately illustrated books of pirates. ( sorry for 3 small posts in a row) This is going silly. but in that book there is lack of striped and blue shirts. There is only white and checkered ones visible... Foxe has made interesting study here ( it has been around pirate forums) http://www.forums.py...c.php?f=10&t=19 and there is lots of striped and blue shirts. ( no need to educate me because I know that that list is for illustrative purposes only ) Like I said earlier slop clothing is described almost as uniform and the only variable part is headgear (which seems to vary between leather caps, Monmouths and round hats). That slop clothing is uniform not seem to be accurate while they could have been popular. Also why all neckerchiefs are white? Is there documentation of blue ones or else? I still think that some of those round hats ( while many are good.... now I mean only the black ones) look odd and they have odd helmet kind of shape if you get what I mean. Comparing with period pics I don't see much similar ones since usually crown is more narrower and brim a little bit wider....

Man With the crutches and scarf LOOKS LIKE stereotypical PIRATE ( joke.... laugh! ) please add that to " Aye the kerchief" tread it would be nice addition there. Lovely skeletons there oh there is another man with bandana.... Odd that there is a coffin? I would have think that criminals would not have kind of "luxury".....

This one hould be 1710- 20s waistcoat. My theory is that sleeved ones were used when coat wasn't and sleevless when coat was on.... on from circa 1715 one c. 1750 This is going too late but ine from 1760s another from same time but this one is circa 1720 Still there is not much pictures of common men's or sailors' waistcoat It seems that sleeved ones were little more popular in Gaop......

This is 1724 edition ( I have been advertising this around ) http://digital.lib.ecu.edu/17001

indeed Mission picture sharing may continue not from gaop but from 1760s. see sailors on the left) http://jcb.lunaimagi...~2~2&mi=0&trs=8 From BoA and from 1741 edtition http://jcb.lunaimagi...&mi=104&trs=189 Havana/ Habana in 1704 http://jcb.lunaimagi...&mi=125&trs=189 Mexican plantasion( whatever) in cicra 1725 http://jcb.lunaimagi...~2&mi=19&trs=32 Henry Morgan at Porto Bello http://jcb.lunaimagi...2~2&mi=6&trs=34 Admiral Hosier's Ghost. from 1740 http://jcb.lunaimagi...~2&mi=33&trs=34 the figures are as L-R a Dutch sailor, French sailor, Portuguese sailor, and English sailor. made in 1701 Gaop pic of Dutch sailors. From 1695 From 1725 Dutch edition of Ghop. Capt. Antis' crew playing trial Hogart's cartoon of sea life from 1747 (nice hanging pirates/ smugglers there) Sirca 1702 picture of privateer Jean Bart. there is nice French grenadier sailor there also... and he reminds of this http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/DLasseter/Reenactment/marin-b.jpg Late 17th century illustration of breech-loading swivel guns Late 17th century illustration of firepots