Swashbuckler 1700

I find that 16th century revolver interesting... Puckle guns are funny too... Loving pictures here we have a design for buckle gun and speaking of just many barreled guns here is nice circa 1650 pistol

One more peg leg sailor http://www.metmuseum...=69.131.4&pos=1

Happy birthday :) Mission sometimes seems like a ten years old but he is older than that. He really 16. So way older than some might believe but really happy birthday. How it feels to be 46?

That is interesting. I ques the box lock is the same lock that can be seen in later 18th century Queen Anne pistols. http://www.cowansauc...ges/fff8800.jpg Ahh one more movie anachronism... Still at least two and three barreled pistols were used even in the era of whee-lock pistols in 1570's. So yes for multi-barreled guns but no for the duck-foot pistols (in gaop). But still the question remains how old is the duck-foot guns? At least they had appeared before 1780's. And Mission I knew you would do that but I figured it out too late and I could not move it here. Thank you and sorry for putting this tread in the wrong place (BTW I guess the "Black Muskets" tread is still on Twill http://pyracy.com/in...-black-muskets/ )

A Couple of years ago I read "The Illustrated History of Weaponry" by Chuck Wills and the book made me wonder how old duck-foot pistols are? That multi-barreled handgun was said to be favored by sea captains because it was good tool to repel multiple enemies like mutinous crew. They were used in some point of during the 18th century but what about Gaop? In movie "Cutthroat Island" there was a one of these guns but since it was a movie it does not mean anything. I would see the gun rather good weapon of choice in boarding action since it worked quite similarly than the classical blunderbuss. Some pictures of these pistols

That was Interesting Mission. Here from "The history of the pyrates: containing the lives of Captain Mission. Captain Bowen. Captain Kidd ... and their several crews" (1728) There is enough swearing I think. But I think this might be one of those romantic addition to the real story added by the writer "I can't pass by in Silence, Capt. Bellamy's Speech to Capt. Beer. D—n my Bl—d, says he, I am sorry they won't let you have your Sloop again, for I scorn to do any one a Mischief, when it is not for my Advantage; damn the Sloop, we must sink her, and she might be of Use to you. Tho’, damn ye, you are a sneaking Puppy, and so are all those who will submit to be governed by Laws which rich Men have made for their own Security, for the cowardly Whelps have not the Courage otherwise to defend what they get by their Knavery; but damn ye altogether: Damn them for a Pack of crafty Rascals, and you, who serve them, for a Parcel of hen-hearted Numskuls. They villify us, the Scoundrels do, when there is only this Difference, they rob the Poor under the Cover of Law, forsooth, and we plunder the Rich under the Protection of our own Courage; had you not better make One of us, than sneak after the A—s of these Villains for Employment? Capt. Beer told him, that his Conscience would not allow him to break thro’ the Laws of God and Man. You are a devilish Conscience Rascal, d—n ye, replied Bellamy, I am a free Prince, and I have as much Authority to make War on the whole World, as he who has a hundred Sail of Ships at Sea, and an Army of 100,000 Men in the Field; and this my Conscience tells me; but there is no arguing with such sniveling Puppies, who allow Superiors to kick them about Deck at Pleasure; and pin their Faith upon a Pimp of a Parson; a Squab, who neither practices nor believes what he puts upon the chuckle-headed Fools he preaches to.—The pyrates wanting neither Provision nor Water, and the Whidaw's Damage being repaired, they past their Time very jovially. One of the Crew had been a Stroler, a Fellow who had pass'd thro’ a great many real as well as fictitious Scenes of Life," I find the name "Beer" rather amusing....

From our loved General history (Black-Bart's crew aboard prize ship Samuel): " They tore up the Hatches and entered the Hold like a parcel of Furies, and with Axes and Cutlashes, cut and broke open all the Bales, Cases, and Boxes, they could lay their Hands on; and when any Goods came upon Deck, that they did not like to carry aboard, instead of tossing them into the Hold again,threw them over-board into the Sea; all this was done with incessant cursing and swearing, more like Fiends than Men.They carried with them, Sails, Guns, Powder, Cordage, and 8 or 9000 l. worth of the choicest Goods; and told Captain Cary, That they should accept of no Act of Grace; that the K— and P—t might be damned with their Acts of G— for them; neither would they go to Hope-Point, to be hang'd up a Sun drying, as Kidd's, and Braddish's Company were; but that if they should ever be overpower'd, they would set Fire to the Powder, with a Pistol, and go all merrily to Hell together."

Looking old paintings to see ships, ports and sailors I have found one early 18th century picture that features an ordinary sailor or a fisherman having a sleeveless waistcoat. There a man with blue waistcoat and white shirt in rigth corner http://collections.r...ects/12494.html

on the other hand Those might be some other boatsmen than navy. The boat don’t seem to be ordinary and its reminds me of some leisure crafts. So perhaps not navy men at all. They reminds me of this picture of seaman (it is modern but it represents 18th century seaman) and this (A Seaman, assigned to Barge duty, by Dominic Serres, mid-late 18th century) So those men in the painting seem to be a part of some barge crew rather than the navy Reading the description it seems even more unlikely that those men aboard the nearest boat would have nothing to do with the navy. They have gray coats but that's might be just an coincident. The boat is not jolly-boat and the navy ship(in the middle) is just arriving there "a warship announces its arrival with guns" also the men aboard the navy ship looks quite much different. I think those men aboard the nearest boat are just parts of some barge crew…. But there is a form of sailor hats still that can be notified while thinking of leather caps.

on the other hand Those might be some other boatsmen than navy. The boat don’t seem to be ordinary and its reminds me of some leisure crafts. So perhaps not navy men at all. They reminds me of this picture of seaman (it is modern but it represents 18th century seaman) and this (A Seaman, assigned to Barge duty, by Dominic Serres, mid-late 18th century) So those men in the painting seem to be a part of some barge crew rather than the navy

I saw this and I think it might tell something (click it to get is bigger) "Shipping Scene in the Lower Thames, about 1720" http://collections.r...ects/12487.html The men dressed in gray and red (slops? perhaps) on the nearest boat. Some of those are something that might be unfaced leather caps with white tread. Those hat look rather unclear but they could be leather caps. Most of them seem to have a form upturned peaks like seen in some visions but it it is unclear. But anyway those are -in my opinion really uncool.... well history often is.....

Sorry for double post but I cannot edit my older post. A fine picture featuring shipboard life. While later than Golden Age of Piracy it is still interesting. Even without that monkeys and exotic bird. info here http://collections.r...ects/12610.html

You're welcome. I am glad to find pictures to people. I actually think it might well the very same hat in those both pictures. The lighting and respective of the first picture are perhaps making it look less higher and lighter-colored than in the later picture. Also I dough that Peter would not have really many sailor hats with him when he returned to Russia,

This is especially for Mission One handed admiral Charles Stewart, 1681-1740 Oh and again blue coat before 1748 uniforms... read the description here http://collections.r...ects/14510.html more one handed Gaop- era naval persons. More NMM stuff Chares galley circa 1670 http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/14727.html even more admirals http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/14021.html 19th century Chinese pirate flag http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/554.html

That is nice picture.. though from 19th century book. Flogging itself seems to be really old naval tradition (thinking of old galley slaves now). But I was wondering how common is was on gaop and earlier. Even pirate articles of John Philips in 1724 mentioned whipping "V. That Man that shall strike another whilst these Articles are in force, shall receive Moses’s Law (that is, 40 Stripes lacking one) on the bare Back" I watched a documentary about Nelson's RN ("Time Watch - Myths of Nelson's Navy (BBC 2000)" and of course criticism in needed here) and there was said that not many sailors got flogged during their service time I think the ration was 1 of 20 sailors or so. And actually much of the talk of strict navy discipline is misleading. E.G. if you stole chicken on-land you could get hanged but aboard ship you usually got "only" whipped....

Sorry for triple post but it seems that time is up and I cannot edit my earlier posts. Chaloner Ogle in 1718 actually four years before than he killed Roberts. http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/14390.html btw he is wearing blue coat again

Oh I cannot edit that anymore so I must double post. sorry one of my fav pictures from 1750 http://collections.r...ts/127936.html I keep wondering those hats (the hat that the man with red neck cloth uses and some of the background sailors) are and wonder of they had something to do with earlier RN leather caps. They look quite much like this later example http://www.hmsrichmo...bargeseaman.jpg and here we have one legged seaman circa 1800 http://collections.r...cts/127939.html and this is nice http://collections.r...jects/4224.html

Some neat stuff from NMM: site Well not exactly gaop stuff quite near sailor bust from 1752 http://collections.r...jects/5774.html fugure head featuring rather silly looking lion circa 1720 http://collections.r...ects/18794.html A painting of naval officer made circa 1700 http://collections.r...ects/14530.html A portrait of a 17th century English brigantine circa 1725 http://collections.r...ects/12470.html 1706 painting of commodore the Honourable William Kerr http://collections.r...ects/15559.html Rear-Admiral Sir William Whetstone circa 1707 http://collections.r...ects/14561.html Rear-Admiral Sir John Munden, circa 1705. http://collections.r...ects/14346.html Elizabethan sea dogs in 17th century painting http://collections.r...ects/14077.html Robert Osboldston circa 1718. Nice blue silk robe there http://collections.r...ects/14397.html unknown officer from neither merchant or royal navy. circa 1700 http://collections.r...ects/14610.html What a nice ship. Lovely colors. Oh and sailor are visible too … http://collections.r...ects/12499.html Hogarth's work of Woodes Rogers http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/14446.html This is a nice picture of RN captain (odd usually there is painting of only admirals) circa 1707-1711. And this also tells that some naval officers in RN used blue coats even before uniforms of 1748 and in period when naval slops were red and gray (but indeed more navy men are using red or brown) http://collections.r...ects/14222.html We need some corpulent navy guy here http://collections.r...ects/14255.html what a lovely ship cross-section http://collections.r...ects/12364.html

I am wondering when The Royal Navy actually took flogging as popular punishment. There is tons of pirate books telling about flogging but so often there mixed a lots of later Nelson Navy stuff with pirates. What about Gaop RN? how popular the flogging really was?