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Darling, I already have one of each packed... Funny... You guys are pirates, but I keep ending up with all your gold... How does that happen?

I kinda meant knitted smocks when I said it, Ed. Sorry I wasn't clear. What they called "smocks" look like modern sweaters to me, you see. From writing on the wall behind the mannequin, I'd take a guess that this picture was taken in French-speaking Canada. Ring any bells?

Good idea, Jack! And you'd be able to wear your boots!

I was already planning on it, Blackjohn. Matter of fact, I pushed up the printing schedule so I could have to them show you guys tomorrow night. Yeah, I'm thinking of making one for myself for street wear. It's faboo!

We've been hard at work and are pleased to present two new Golden Age of Piracy patterns: The 1720s Frock Coat http://www.reconstructinghistory.com/patte...sfrockcoat.html Curved fronts, huge cuffs, and swingy skirts! A little later than our other frock coat pattern (appropriate for 1710-1730 for the fashionable man and later for the not-so). The Early 18th century Great Coat http://www.reconstructinghistory.com/patte.../greatcoat.html The perfect winter cover up for the man of fashion. All in stock and ready to ship TODAY! Quick! Get 'em before I leave the country!

Sorry, Greg. There's not enough evidence to make that kind of sweeping statement. I can actually think of more instances of shirts with fold-over collars in the GAoP than not. Both fold-over collars AND band collars existed at this time. And there are both wide and narrow cuffs as well.

Okay, historically accurate dress aside -- just from a construction and materials standpoint, this shirt looks like crap. I wouldn't pay a dime for it. It's crap fabric (a "poly-cotton blend" can mean many things), and it may not survive the first washing. So maybe you paid only $23 for a shirt, but it's a rental if you only get to wear it once before it's destroyed. Add to that, it's really tacky. As my husband would put it, "It's gone beyond tacky all the way into "sticky"!" A red shirt with red ruffles and red lace has absolutely no style. It just screams "cheap". Page down a bit on this page. It's only Townsend and they're don't sell the most historically accurately or well-made clothing in the world, but their shirts are at least made out of something akin to a real fabric and they will take washing. They even make one with a ruffle.

Thanks Ed. I already have that book. It's great. But it's almost 100 years too early for us. It's put out by Plimouth Planation which is a living history site for the early 17th century. Quite different from the late. For pictures of men in knitted garments, I'm going to have to do some searching for you. I remember Foxe posting pictures at some point, but I don't remember what thread they were in, or even if they were on this forum...

I thought it was supposed to be the Spring Equinox?

Have you ever taken comfrey? They say it does wonders with sore joints.

It won't knit? I did something similar with the ball of my left foot. Cracked it when I was 18, but I still can't wear high heels. And cold damp days, I limp...

I feel extraordinary! It's raining. I love the rain. If only it were storming... Jack, I'm so happy for you and Janelle! Yay! Captain, when did you break your elbow?!?!?

Did I ever tell you guys that Oetzi is my cousin? Seriously! He was found in the same part of the Alps where my grandfather was born! That hat is exactly what my hair looks like in the morning! :)

Ed, The reason you're not finding any information is because there are few knitted objects extant. The men's undershirts that Mara has on her site belonged to a King (Charles I, if I remember correctly, and were worn at his execution). Mara's site is really the best source on 18th century knitting I can think of. The definitive book on the subject is Rutt's "History of Handknitting" which you should be able to find on Amazon or through Mara's site. There is a great danger, however, in using patterns for fabric clothing and making knitted versions of them. There's no evidence that anything and everything was knitted. Knitted objects are often of quite a different profile and construction than woven ones. They aren't interchangeable. So if you just want a funky knitted wardrobe, go right ahead. But if you want to have knitted things that actually existed in the Golden Age of Piracy, stick with what we know. There is plenty of documentation on knitted hats, undershirts, and stockings. There are some pictures of seamen wearing what we would call knit sweaters or jumpers. But there is NO evidence of them wearing knitted jackets or coats.

But I think he was calling us wankers because he had a wonderful tarred smock or something and we didn't...

But Jenny, he's not wearing boots. He's polishing boots to earn his living. And not to burst your bubble or anything, but the chest isn't from the Golden Age of Piracy either, you realize...

And Drow...

I think it was about a tarred smock, as I recall. Trying just searching for "tarred"...

Which album?

Darling, there was a discussion somewhere -- I can't remember if it was the PB forum or the Yahoo group or here -- where the guys were talking about tarred clothing for wet weather. I remember distinctly because Mr. Foxe gave his recipe for the "tar" he used on his stuff. I don't remember the topic of the thread, but I think I remember that it wasn't originally about tarred clothing...

Nah... Wrong angle...

Hold the Coke and I'm with you! {Coke -- that stuff'll kill ya!}

The Nixons' debut (and possibly only...) album. "Sister" just finished. But I think I'm going to switch to Dishwalla "Pet Your Friends". I'm in the mood for "Miss Emma Peel" (though she was no "miss"!).

100 years is a little much, Jenny...