Desert Pyrate

Well, it's almost time to leave, and I won't really have time to check the Pub until mid-June. I'll see all o' ye when I see ye. If you're around the Columbia River, check us out. I'm sure you'll be able to spot me... shoulder length hair and about 6'4". Ask fer Eric if I'm not easily spottable.

Well mates, bout time to chime in. I'll be in Ilwaco crewing the Lady Washington for when the Lady and the Lynx sail through for the second time, June 4-5. June 4 – ILWACO # Dockside Tours # Battle Sail: 2:00 pm – 5:00 pm # Sail: 6:00 pm – 9:00 pm June 5 – ILWACO WA # Dockside Tours: 10:00 am – 1:00 pm # Battle Sail: 2:00 pm – 5:00 pm That's from the Lynx's website, as the Lady's calendar is down at the moment. Incidentally, I'll be crewing from May 22-June 5th, so stop by any of those towns along the Columbia and say hi.

Misery- 'T all depends on just how big yer lines fer belayin' are, doesn't it. There was a time when *giant* belaying pins were needed for the truly massive four and five-masted ships. But that was long after the GAoP. No need for line bigger around than your arm in a ship of 100'. At least, none that you'd be belaying rather than cleating, for instance.

Royaliste is in SF all year, mate...

Looks like a great time! All o' ye SoCal pirates are going t' have to come see us when Royaliste pulls into the area this summer.

I doubt the public will ever get into yacht racing. It's not terribly exciting on TV, for one... and it's not really like you can get trackside tickets. Yeah, Roy is a hell of a sailor, from all accounts. If my memory is serving me, Pyewacket (Roy's boat, and skippered by him) held the Pacific Cup (SF-Hawaii) record for a few years before Mari-Cha IV finally broke it this past race. I might be crazy, having never been on a fancy ocean racing yacht... but what the heck kind o' race boat has fancy menus and nice Egyptian cotton sheets?

You mean you wrote a whole post about something (only marginally related to pirates) called "future perfect", and you DIDN'T EVEN THINK to include anything written in the actual future perfect form? Gah... when I saw the title of the topic, I was sure it was going to be about language. And... just to keep myself happy, here's some future perfect of my own: In December, I will have been a member of this board for two years. Alright, sorry... pedantry mode off.

*blows thread off* Fer any o' you still interested in the progress of the Vector prototype (provisionally named "peridinos"), there be much to report. The hull is functionally finished, needs one more coat o' epoxy and some paint. The centerboard is done. The spars are turned (need varnishing). She needs to be decked, painted, ruddered. Biggest news is that the sail has been started. But... my sewing machine crapped out with the slick, thick, fabric. I'll resume the sewing upon getting a new machine (perhaps borrowing Royaliste's) or fixing my own. The sail is Dacron, custom designed and pre-cut from Sailrite. Ran me shy of 300 frogskins, and it comes with everything needed but the machine (including grommets and the tool for them). So not *too* long now, mates! Realistically, wot with school and the like, I'd say early July... Sorry bout the lack of pictures, I didn't pay my server bill and all the digital pics are on the computer in Santa Fe instead o' here in CA.

How the hell did even this thread turn into roleplaying? As much as I like all of you (well.... most of you ), this board has the annoying tendency to make it very difficult to sort the wheat from the chaff.

My vote is with Foxe, I think. Although, either way has problems, and either way we'll muddle through somehow.

99.9% of what I post on the Pub is myself. I don't have a persona or character. Aboard ship or at events, even, it's much the same way. It's me, but with a different outfit, and different speech patterns. Upon interaction with the public, I introduce myself with my legal name. This issue is one of my main problems with the board, and one of the things that led to my decline in posts. It's so hard to tell if you're being insulted by someone who, like myself posts in both pirate accent and modern accent but is still themselves, or someone playing a character. It's too hard to sift through the roleplaying to find a real discussion sometimes. I tend to raise an eyebrow at people who call others who are not into their particular lifestyle "normies" or "mundane". It smacks of escapism and a form of elitism.

Middlesex Trading Co? Anyone had any experience? They look really good... just checking.

This sounds like it could be a painting by Marc Davis, concept artist for the Anaheim Pirates of the Caribbean ride. Unfortunately, I can't find it either.

There are others that can better speak to this than I, but I can say from personal experience that a deck can be awfully dangerous to feet. One particularly harrowing day aboard Royaliste, I had just boarded from the dink, and was barefoot (didn't want to waterlog my shoes beaching the rowboat). Heading below in strong heel, heavy winds and rough seas, I slipped and smashed my foot into the carriage of one of the deck guns. I've still got a scar. So yes, shoes are certainly helpful. Though I too have heard that sailors of old didn't wear them...

Yeah... that's the sense of it that I have. It's a base for the lifting tackle.

Near as I can tell from the Oxford English Dictionary, a hulk used in this way was primarily for hoisting and setting of masts. It was also used to house the crew and supplies during the maintenance.

If'n I don't go to the Fair, be ye requirin' help on anything?

darkthing (and everyone else), I'm thinking of going tomorrow (Sunday). But only if'n some crewmates are there! Anyone else showing up? If so, what time?

Yeah... thinkin' of going on the last weekend as well. We'll see how it goes, that'll be the first weekend I'm back in CA.

Through some webtrawlin', it appears that these articles are taken from various merchants (as well as the Gulf Coast crew mentioned). Without an exception (that I found), these "pirate ethics" are printed on parchment that you can buy for your wall/desk/whatever. I'd be interested to see if these have any historical provenance. The use of "ye" throws me and casts doubt on the historical accuracy. There are two forms of the word "ye". One of them is a way to write an article (e.g. 'ye olde coffee'). It's a transliteration of the Old English letter called "thorn". Our current "th" sound comes from it... in Old English it was used much like the Greek letter theta. The second form of "ye" is a second person plural. However, that does not mean that it can be used whenever you need to say "y'all." Ye is not a possessive second person... for that the standard "your" is used. By 1600, most uses of "ye" had dropped out of formal writing. So to recap: we can't use "ye" to mean "your". So the first code of ethics can't mean "Your captain". Let's look at the use of "ye" in these "ethics". Most of the "ye"s can be accounted for if you replace them with "the." Not historically likely, and the fact that the word "the" appears in other places in the document means this is really unlikely, but I'll go for it. The fourth article is where things get sketchy. "Ye other officers will receive each a single part, and if ye distinguish yourself, the crew will determine how much reward to be given to ye." "Yourself" is a singular second person reflexive pronoun. I can't find someplace saying it's ever been plural. So we're in the singular, but still using "ye". That's incorrect, it should be thou or thee, depending on the usage. Now, all this is not saying that ye can't be used as a singular in colloquial speech, but here's what the document would be if we were using ye as colloquial as well: We'd have *three* different uses of "ye". It'd be used to signify a letter that had been out of use since the 12th/13th century. It'd be used as a colloquial "you" (singular). And it'd be used as a more formal plural "you". And all this for a word that is passing out of use by the 1650s anyway. So without any historical provenance, and with this incorrect grammar (and unlikely grammar even if the pirates are just uneducated), I'm going to have to call it a modern invention by someone who didn't know their Early Modern English grammar.

Y' know... come t' think of it, yer right. I don't believe I've ever slept in a bunk other than the starb'rd fo'c'sle V-bunk. Didn't occur to me before now... but glad it's dry all the same!

Excited as 'ell, Cap'n!

Ahoy thar... Ye might try startin' at talesofthesevenseas.com! Twill let ye contact th' Quartermaster and get ye on th' account.

Aye, Cap'n... too many yups indeed. Luckily we're up in the mountains east o' town (on the side of Monte Sol, not far from Museum Hill, if anyone's familiar with the city of Santa Fe). Luckily for you, you moved to Sausalito, away from any trace of yuppies or rich snobs, right?

As a Santa Fean, I'll say we're old (early 1600s) but not as old as St. Augustine or St. John's, NF. Oldest capital city, and oldest city west of the Mississippi River.