Tartan Jack

OK, I am "converting" two plastic models into pirate ships/boats.

One of them will be the Lindberg "Jolly Roger" into a sloop.

The other will be the 1/96 scale Revell USS Constitution.

BOTH will be made into 1/48 scale.

So, I need to figure out which (if any) of the kit cannons I can reuse.

I need to know the length and diameter of different cannons in the 18th C.

(I would LOVE it in feet, if possible, for ease of conversion to scale)

I need:

8 pounders.

6 pounders

4 pounders

Rail guns

I have found MANY references to pounds, but not to lengths.

Any help is GREATLY appreciated!!!

Wages, you know the other day I did try it straight and thought it is not one for sippin. I would like to find a rum that I would like to sip. My favorite liquor that I can do that is Seagrams 7 especially mixed with some Amaretto on the rocks.

lol cat and racoon sporans....gives new meaning to 'hello kitty'

Reminds me of

"Hello Poppen!"

Question still stands:

What years is POTC supposed to take place in?

Here kitty, kitty!

Here kitty, kitty!

I have a "SURPRISE" for you!

Looking to either join a crew, or create one.

So, is ANYONE near the upstate, South Carolina AT ALL???

There are many lakes that would be EXCELLENT hunting grounds (Hartwell and Greenwood are just BEGGING for some of us to show up!!!)

Anyone out there, or do I need to plunder, pillage, and party all on my own?

Darn Spammers!!!!

Let's strap them onto the mouth of the cannons and fire away!!!!

(THAT would be FUN!!!!!)

EXCELLENT!!!!!!

A BETTER sporran. I always wanted a racoon one.

I'll pass on the cat and have a pirate racoon!!!!!

YYYEEEEAAAHHHH!!!!!!!

(Red Cat Jenny, this is all in jest, I hope you know)

Well,...sigh....I drink Sailor Jerry Navy Rum. Most peeps here do not like it, but I like it best so far for mixin.

I might have to try some of that too.

How is it straight?

Cats make excellent sporrans!!!

(my skunk might need a buddy!!!)

The rest we can scatter, smother, cover, chunk, and dice (ala Waffle House).

Cat, the other white meat!

(Slice and Dice)

What kind?

I just recently had some Cap. Morgan Private Stock (first decent rum I got hands on, usually ended up with Scotch). I LIKEY, LIKEY!!!

I'll also be drinkin' Aqua Vitae (Water of Life-> Scotch).

Queen Anna will have to take me home in Queen Anna's Revenge.

Back to Random:

Capt Jamie and Blood need to get together and join Sparrow.

(yeh, I know they are separate periods-> Jamie is a Morgan bucaneer, Blood was 1687/8 and . . . uh, when id Sparrow supposed to be?????)

(not so) Random thought 2:

What is the supposed dates of POTC 1 and 2?

For future reference in any searches:

https://pyracy.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6889&hl=

It was produced bt the BBC and aired on National Geographic as:

Blackbeard: Terror at Sea

Might some fresh sugar cookies (with sprinkles) and a glass o' milk tide yah over for a bit?

Why did it HAVE to come to MILK & COOKIES????????

OH THE HUMANITY!!!!

(and I sometimes use that term loosly)

I am JUST reading this thread.

I like the concept (and am already playing with one based on the tombstones on:

http://www.capecodgravestones.com/styles.html

The only issue from an artistic standpoint is the red hourglass on black looks very "black widow" to me, which could either be a good or bad thing. However, I think most visitors may think "blackwidow pirate" more than hourglass.

Great artwork!!! (by the way)

I had been misinformed as to what "wool bunting" actually was (and never had the need/reason to look it up again).

So, a wool bunting 1-2 ply would be best, with either a modern plain weave (or a light, loose weave cotton as a poorer substitute) as a visual substitute.

They were also HUGE and I've seen listed as 20 by 30 as a "normal" large size with 3 by 5 as TINY in comparison. Also, more are squarer in shape than most would expect.

(I have spent time looking up stuff in all sorts of books, and the web.)

It also seems that stuff was painted on AND stuff was appliqued (patches sewn onto the main flag base. Sometimes, they were on one side and the main material was "cut out" underneath to make it 2 sided. Other times the patch was on both sides. The issue is weight vs. strength (you WANT light, but strong).

I have NOT been able to find out about the paint actually used on historic flags (most citings just say "painted"). It seems like modern reproductions use artist paint (usually oil, but some use acrylic-> NOT historic, but looks good and easy to use) or enamel (I question if that would be too heavy or stiff, as all shirts I've gotten brushed model paint onto makes it REAL stiff).

Anyone (like Foxe or GofF, for example) know more on both what paint types (and how different than modern paints) would be available aboard ship AND what would have been used on Landlubber bannners?

This seems to ALWAYS be the hardest info for me to find or know anyone who knows about historic paints.

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Since it come up . . .

Caledonia-> the ROMAN name for the country

From a southern (relatively) tribe called the Caledon that the Romans faced in battle (an who managed to keep the Romans at bay when Rome was seen as invincible.

The OTHER group the Romans couldn't beat, the ones they called the Germani of Germania (named after the man now called "Herman the German," which is extremely redundant). The Germans called themselves the Deutch.

What the celtic people themselves called what is now Scotland: ALBA

(If watch Braveheart, which has a VERY large number of historical problems, the army says: "Alba Go Braugh")

As for the Scot/Pict relations, the "traditional" view is that of either genocide or slavery. More recent scholarship argues that it was far more peaceful, citing the lack of pre-Viking wholesale slaughter evidence that would be involved with genocide. More likely it was by intermarriage and assimilation. One of the complexities is that culture often goes through maternal lines, yet the Pict culture is, for all intensive purposes, gone. Scholars have intense difficulty identifying ANY distinct Pictish culture (which leads to many, many anacronistic interpretations by ones who want to implant their own ideas, esp. about Druidism). One popular way to overcome this is to argue that all that is Scottich and not Irish, must be Pictish in origin.

Among scholars of early Scottish history, the Scot-ization of Alba is one of the issues of HOT debate. I was hinting at it in my post by -"took"- without taking a whole aside to explain.

But, since you brought it up . . .

(Also, note my initial signature, "Kilted Pirate of the Caledonian Carolinas")

Today, Scotland, Alba, and Caledonia are all used the Scots for their country. Some (a number of whom want to "stick it" to the English) also uses the French name "Ecosse." I think it is just good natured humor, for the most part.

I use all 4, depending upon which best fits the situation. My favorite is Alba, as that is the most historic for what the peoples called it themselves.

Random thought:

In the ORGINAL "The Italian Job," WHY is the clearly Italian partner of Crocker called the very British name of Roger . . . and WHY does Crocker TALK to the film and get an appropriate answer?

(Yes, I have opinions on all this, but am not sure if it was what was intended.)

Hi,

My main interest (before spending to much time here) is Scottish history, with pirates as more of an interesting side.

So, it seems most of ya'll have personas. I am beginning to feel like I need one now too.

So here is the basic outline:

Born 1695 in highlands of Scotland (location to be determined, possibly western isles or Argyle).

Fought at 20 in Jacobite Rebellion of 1715 (still need to decide actual position, thinking-> made battle flags and served as color bearer and/or chaplain)

After end, went to sea to avoid prosection as a rebel.

Ended up in Charleston area, but HATED percieved English presence. Tried backcounty, but not to liking. SO, went to sea.

Pressed into piracy (as flag/sailmaker/chaplain), but found to liking.

Vision:

Experinced tactician and moderate weapons (not expert) with a LOT of gall and deep hate for Hanover Government (and not a lot of respect for anything percieved as "English," though many friends and compatriots of English stock). Less experienced at sea, but wanting to learn EVERYTHING.

Is experienced in stitching and some background in art and design (flag making).

As for costume, mix of period highland wear (what already know) and sea wear. Maybe, tartan short coat and trousers/trews. I plan to mix with a belted plaid at times (own several and philabeg/early kilt), but not always nor when would be in the way.

So what do ya think?

(Yes, I am a BIG fan of Roberts, who probably influences my "vision" more than I would like to admit, though am trying to tone down)

Isn't "Scotti" and "Pirate" essentially the same meaning?

The term "Scotti" is from a Roman name for the Irish, who immigrated and "took" the rest of the Picts in the 5th-10th C. It is -supposed- to mean "raider" (Some theorize that, like Pict, it may actualy be a Roman corruption of of a native gaelic name for the people themselves that is now lost).

So, doesn't that make Scots pirates?

To defend myself:

I AM an "a-hole counter" (with a degree in history, even-> I was picking on myself)

As for Captain Blood and Black Swan . . .

IT WASN'T FILMED FOR WIDESCREEN!!!!!!!!

They are both in the film-ratio (no panavision, cropping, etc). It was 1942!!!!!

Note-> nothing is chopped off sides, nor is anything "wasted" on the top and bottom (both caracteristics of making a widescreen film into TV aspect). To see how it was filmed, the "framing" either includes "stuff" off screen to left, right, or both (panavision) or has "empty space" at the top and bottom of the screen (when the film is physically cropped when projected). It is VERY evident if you know what you are looking for.

If Blackbeard was a blonde, brunnet, or redhead,

What image would he have created for himself?

Why the hell have most people never HEARD of Bart Roberts?

Does a "death's head" mean teh skull only or the skull and bones together?

How many of us wouldn't be scared crapless if we ever came across a REAL 18th C. pirate?

(Now, be honest)

Why can't history a-hole "counters" and ren "fairies" not seem to get along?

Don't we line the same stuff in general?

Why did so many historical famous pirates actually suck at piracy?

Why does "hollywood" seem COMPELLED to replace great history with less interesting melodrama?

Why do I WASTE so much time on the internet?

Would pirates even use the internet, if it existed in 1718?

Why were so many "pirate ships" names "Revenge"?

Why is there a "preview" on The Black Swan warning "Piracy is a Crime" "Piracy is stealing" and "Piracy is illegal". Aren't we about to WATCH a movie ABOUT PIRATES???

Why is there a warning on my telephone not to use it in the shower, in a thunderstorm?

WHY AM I STILL TYPING?

Without starting a new thread, . . .

I am used to Scotch (blended and single malt). I actually had my FIRST "real" rum (not the clear crap) LAST NIGHT.

Following the the advise from SOMEWHERE on the pub, I got Captain Morgan's Private Stock (and some Dewar's-> excellent Scotch for the price, though I prefer the singles more).

I LOVE IT!!!! It is the only alcohol besides Scotch that actually tasted "good" to me (I can only barely drink beer). I'll definately be getting more.

Bilgemonkey, I'll be looking to your chart and reviews QUITE a bit.

For my next question,

Which modern rum(s) are the most "authentic" for the GAoP?

In the GAoP, wasn't the rum generally cut with a substantial amount of water?

Any general "rum info" I NEED to know?

(Remember, I am coming from the background of scotch and know LITTLE to NOTHING of rum.)

SHEEP LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The posts for Brothers of the Carolina Coast are quite old and I emailed. As not reponse is forth coming, I am trying here too.

I live in Upstate, South Carolina and am interesting in finding a group interested in piratical reenactments.

Is the Columbia group Pirates of the Carolina Coast still around?

Anyone, anyone (Beuller, Beuller)?

Wages...would you have preferred I say "Booty Coverings" instead..lol

(If hadn't read my "introduction" . . . I wear and make kilts. It was a kilt vs. pants joke.)

My booty, my booty.

My booty and me!

I'm sorry, at one forum I frequent, Kilts are the norm and trousers are "The T Word" and pants are "women's clothing."

BUT, trews (a form of tight fitting legged garments, for horse riding, made in tartan of tartan material- NOT the same thing-) are OK.

I fear me kilt be looked up if ever venture in the rigging!

Pants????

What are pants?????

Oh, those are those uncomfortable things that are worn between the legs!!!!

(and in the rigging)

I call them trews!

Now, to get some loose trews . . .

Hi,

I was in a discussion in another forum on the "1715" Jacobite Rebellion. At the death of Queen Anne, a bunch of Scots got VERY unhappy at the nomination of kingship to George, Elector of Saxony. So, they rose up in rebellion under the cause of the exiled "James the Pretender," son of James II of England and James VII of Scotland.

I KNOW that Queen Anne's War (War of Spanish Succession-> correct?) had a MAJOR impact on piracy.

So, was there any preceivable impact of the Jabobite Rebellion of 1715?

(Remember, I am coming from a background more focused on Scottish events than Carribean, so I am asking those who know more about this area than myself.

THAT means MOST of YOU :) )

As for kilt jokes, . . . I wonder if I'll hear some I don't already know.

I am better at writing jokes than telling them.

My three favorite:

A Man wearing a cling wrap kilt walks into a psyciatrist's office. The psychiatrist looks at him and says:

I can CLEARLY see your NUTS!!!!

A highlander with one sheep is a shepherd

A highlander with two sheep is an entrapaneaur (breeding and so forth)

A highlander with three sheep is a PIMP!!!

And to end:

"SHEEP LIE!!!!!!!!!!!"