Tartan Jack

Too bad I won't be there for the fun! I was looking forward to this trip. Stupid work!

Not sure that was ever established beyond being the first one in this section, before (almost) ANYONE knew what the section was for . . .

Ain't gonna happen . . .

This one is pretty cool!

If only this was real . . .

Are you trying it from the messages section? This software is separated into sections for new content, so you need to be in the correct screen for it to work -namely the main forum screen showing all the sections. - At least if it is the same as another forum I am on that looks like the same software.

OK, OK . . . It wasn't 100% correct, but it did show the general idea . . .

Why not? You try to look up my kilt ALL the time!

So, no known additives? Kinda surprises me, actually. I had suspected that the attributed hallucinogenic properties were the result of something added to the alcohol besides what was supposed to be there, a bit like the "extra" stuff added to the caffeine in modern energy drinks- only MUCH more powerful and of a different nature. I had thought there was a kernel of truth behind the accused effects, but the absinthe itself doesn't seem to have anything close to it except high alcohol and suggestion. So, an additive (as was oft done at the time) would have made sense to give at least some of the effect attributed at the time. I bow to those others in this thread . . .

And what a world it is . . . Now, what the HECK is that over there . . . ?

To revive an old thread . . . What ARE the various ranks and "change points" of post numbers? I'm curious. I kinda like "pyrate captain" and would like it to stay that no matter how many posts I make.

There is Anne Chambers "Ireland's Pirate Queen: The True Story of Grace O'Malley," the source for practically the entire wikipedia entry on her. Wiki lists these books: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%A1inne_N%C3%AD_Mh%C3%A1ille I don't know the quality or historical accuracy of ANY of those books. There is also Google to look for info. I'd look to more historical-based sights, rather than the myrid of "celtic," feminist, and other agenda-driven and/or myth-based sites.

Mark has some NICE boats too! (Wish I had the $$$ to buy his plastic one from him.)

"It belongs in a museum." - Henry Jones Jr. Looks good, I'm QUITE jealous and wish I had access to great stuff like that over here. Around me, "family antiques" are from the 1960s, not the 1660s.

I've just learned that there are LOTS of "inside jokes" from many, many sources (PMs, various conversations on here going WAY back, Facebook and other on-line connections, plus stuff from actual personal human-to-human contact . . . like events) . . . Some I've figured out, some I think I have but am wrong, and most I just have learned to be lost and move on.

May be creating another ID to keep his others in the skull . . .

Well . . . My boss MAY be able to let me off Friday through Sunday, enabling me to come. I'll find out tomorrow.

So . . . Would a 10' dingy be 20,000/year? Or is that mainly for cabined and decked sailing craft?

Mr. Bones, I would be thrilled to know which of your flags actually did make it into the fiml! I thought several of the more "ethnic" ones were quite beautiful, and I was wondering if they were yours. Also, does this mean you were the man responsible for this? Because if so, I would like to virtually/digitally/imaginarily shake your hand. I LOVE this design. It combines undeniable elements from historical pirate flags with obvious traits of the character who flies it. Totally brilliant. Incidentally, the photo you see here is actually a replica made for me by my girlfriend, and I proudly wave it whenever I don my dreadlock wig. If this is not your design, however, please excuse my prattling on about it, and I would be extremely interested to know what yours looked like! MacCool, Take Foxe's comments in light that this thread is in the "Captain Twill" section and Foxe created this site: http://www.bonaventure.org.uk/ed/flags.htm Eventually, he will get his book on pirate flags published. I'm REALLY looking forward to that one! I want a signed copy . . . The "Jack Sparrow flag is derived from the one attributed to Every/Avery, which Foxe argues: "Source: Flags 1 and 2: None yet found. According to most secondary sources the earliest bona fide record of a skull and crossbones type pirate flag comes from 1700 (see Emmanuel Wynne), and this flag of Avery's clearly predates that by 6 years. This flag alone makes me extremely doubtful of the authenticity of the much quoted National Maritime Museum manuscript, for the profile skull, earring and bandanna are devices not seen on any authenticated pirate (or other) flag of the period. Indeed a study of period depictions of pirates will reveal that earrings and bandannas did not really become associated with pirates until the paintings of Howard Pyle in the 1880s and later." So, he is talking from a strict historical sense (what is known on the real flags actually referenced in primary source documents). MacCool, I see what your saying and agree that it is MUCH better than I had expected when I heard they were going to reveal a unique one for Sparrow in the film. It is actually in the realm of what is oft accepted by "pirate historians" and included in pirate "history" books (even if several can't be documented before 1923).

As long as it is about pirates being pirates and actually well written and internally consistent, rather than an epic mess w/ HUGE plot wholes and incompatible dialogue . . . I'd be happy. I just wish the various other rumored pirate films would actually get made and the genre could be actually revived as a real genre, rather than a single film series and a number of re-aired TV programs.

I just wanted to add a note about my comment on psychological chemical additives . . . At the time, folks had a VERY different attitude toward drugs than we do today. Things we consider HIGHLY addictive and dangerous weren't negative at the time. Rather, they were elements and ingredients in the various elixirs and "snake oil" medicines sold on the street and to doctors. They varied from a waste of time, to mildly poisonous, to actually having real effects (but not really doing hat claimed), to actually working as advertised (the chemist created an early form of our modern over-the-counter medicines). In many products, additives were introduced to "enhance" the intended benefit of that product. One of the additives from then that still dominates today is caffeine. Others that are gone today are opium, cocaine, marijuana, and a number of other drugs. My intent: As known and bottled today, absinthe is quite safe. To say what was drunk in the mid-late 19th C was the same makes the assumption that the accused effects were PR and not based on (legal) additives of the time to enhance the creative aspects of the drink. Based on what I know of the era, such was very possible and would have fed the reaction later in the century, even if the more "pure" products really weren't dangerous or mind-altering.

Help me pay for the flight and I'll be there!

That's good! (Esp. as he seems to be able to read and type on an internet forum . . . ) Also, that is in keeping w/ some Southerners of the period! The "Dissident Presbyterians" that were starting to come to the Southern backwoods thought (and are WELL documented saying so in the later 18th and 19th C.) that slaves should be treated as a members of the family or not be held all all. Disciplinary actions were taken against church members found to be abusing and otherwise mistreating slaves. They also repeatedly got in trouble w/ state governments (inc. a series of lawsuits w/ the state of South Carolina in the 18th C) for teaching slaved to read and write. Huzzah!

Also, Naval ships that are given away need LOTS of work. For example, the above mentioned Yorktown has a couple/several full-time electrician and maintenance people whose job it is to keep the ship operating enough for the tours and tourists. And THAT is a for a ship sitting stationary in the mud . . . with large parts completely closed to the public (and horribly unsafe). You'd be better off shopping around your local marinas, getting to know folks and so forth.

Charleston, SC still has an aircraft carrier (USS Yorktown- CV-10), a famous destroyer (USS Laffey-DD 724), a submarine (USS Clamagore- SS-43), and a seried of Coast Guard cutters (:USCGC Ingham- WHEC-35 and USCGC Comanche- WPG-76). On the carrier are 25 aircraft inc. an F-14, F-4, A-6, A-4, A-7 and more. On shore is a replica Viet Nam support base w/ a Huey, a Sea Cobra, PBR-105 river patrol boat, plus an array of missiles and guns. http://www.patriotspoint.org/ Not bad for a town as small as Charleston, SC. Oh, and on the other side of the Oyster Point peninsula is the reconstructed 1670s ketch Adventure at Charles Towne Landing . . .