:) Now, that said, don't believe any stuff about it don't hurt. I have many, all hurt like hell, and I'm tough. But, that's the trade, skin art for an initial pain session. Good art isn't cheap, either. Need more, lass?? Elbows and similar joints hurt the worst. This is why you see 'spiderwebs' over elbows, too much pain for solid ink. Mine's solid. Inside of elbow is called 'the ditch', very painful, swelling like a dead hog, next?