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#3 - tung oil over pine seat and oak legs

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welcome back to all!

The one I'm holding on my knee is a work of art. Chad said somebody bought/traded for it and put it on the wall in a shopfront. If I could afford it... oh well too nice fer a pyrate impression... unless... maybe... you are the viceroy or something! Mine is the bottom one, which is me all over, functional but not pretty!

My friend sent a couple photos yesterday. the above were online shots, below are his... There are some bunks in the barracks, I'm told they are first come, first served. But we really need tents and flys to fill this big open space!

I bought a router bit for the gold scales box I made William, I had to dig to find it tho. I figured you wont see the mounting from the side. If you are on the floor you might see it, but then you're probably dead drunk too! The saw marks came with the stock I bought. The first stool was a different piece of wood I had laying around. so i did something different with that. Like I said the bottom is kind of boogered up on that one, oh well, learning experience...

nice! I'm making every stool slightly different shapes/colors

Just stay away from the Hemlock rum. I hear it has a kick!

OK, here is one I knocked out today. Maple seat, poplar or pine legs... I may wrap the legs with twine and glue where the bolt hanger is to help prevent splitting the leg. Durability is unknown at this point. I will spray the shiny hangers with black spray bomb before I stain/paint this one up.

I meant to reply to Mary Diamond, but it was in regard to the stools not the tent poles, so here goes... Purchased these items belowon amazon after the first attempt thinking, life has to be easier than what I just went thru threading that seat. I hadnt tried them out yet, but did grind down the backside and spot welded 3/8 buts on the back size for a larger screwpost. I may get to them this weekend. Look for a followup...

Thought I would post some of my favorite weapons of the Spanish miquelet variety...

A re-enactor friend of mine who moved to Mississippi is going to the event. He's about an hour away from Ft Gaines and actually drove to the fort yesterday to do a bit of a visual survey. He's been to the event in past years and confirmed a lot of our thoughts. There's several open rooms or casemates, similar to ft taylor which are available to set up as a pub, etc... We will be needing tables and chairs (or stools) at least for a group meeting place. So it's encouraged to bring a table if at all possible, along with a chairs/bench/stools for yourself. Bring period lanterns if you have them also! We would love to have the aura of many lanterns at night. September can be warm and humid, a fly could be useful during the day. If you are considering this event, please contact William Brand to get on the list, there's a limit on # of participants. We're supposed to recieve some pictures, but in the meantime I found these online...

In the interest of simplicity, I went with threaded hardwood dowels. Had I started with soft wood, I might be farther along but I was worried about durability. I may still explore that route. To be fair, I did consider legs like you are describing but with a crossbrace at the bottom with pegs to hold legs in place. But now you have complex angles and joints that all need to be cut, and fit properly along with a specially shaped inlet in the seat probably requiring a router setup. I'm not convinced a dowel will keep the legs in place without being extremely tight and thus difficult to disassemble. Then as things begin to wiggle as they inevitably do with use, how do you tighten it up again without just punting and glueing it all together. The threads are tapered in the seat since I didnt thread them all the way thru. If they start to wear, you just turn the legs in farther. So in the end a simple tavern stool remains simple.

hemlock just sounds cool 😁 "What will the solemn Hemlock- What will the Oak tree say?" Emily Dickinson

Happy Birthday. We made a cake but it got away from us!

leg shoulders? haha. Its just straight oak dowels with the end threaded. The holes are drilled 15degs in the seat tho. I'll take more pics later, I'm cursing that thing right now. My hands are still sore from threading those holes in the seat.

Michael, not saying your choice was "all wrong". Oak is just overkill at those prices. I found this article about hemlock. Seems its used as an alternative to hardwood. Guessing thats the stronger choice over pine... Either way, avoid the knots as much as possible! https://www.woodmagazine.com/materials-guide/lumber/wood-species-2/hemlock

https://www.homedepot.com/p/EVERMARK-Stair-Parts-1-ft-Unfinished-Oak-Handrail-9100R-ESR-HD00L/202088552 There goes that $100 bill! ... snickering

Did you multiply the price per linear foot x 9ft? Sit down when you do! LOL Seriously, oak is overkill for a tent. Plus much heavier to transport. Altho you may not find staircase handrail in anything else. I can't believe they dont have simple fir closet poles in your part of the "woods"...

Very nice! You are going to bring that to Massacre island right??? LOL My challenge is a sturdy stool that the legs can be removed for transport, and without appearing to be modern. This will fit in my tent duffle if I'm not too close to the weight limit. Or I can ship it in a medium USPS box.

"David the Younger Teniers" according to the WIkIgallery. but I cant find the original anywhere https://www.wikigallery.org/wiki/painting_389905/(after)-David-The-Younger-Teniers/A-Tavern-Interior-With-Peasants-Drinking%2C-Smoking-And-Gambling

usually I include the artist in the filename name, but I must have pulled this one from... AAAGHHH pinterest. I'll see if I can find the original

Here's a few other historic examples...

William and I talked about some portable tavern stools for events. The desire was to make them historic as possible and portable i.e. legs can be removed for shipping/transport. We also wanted them sturdy, cheap, and portable. HAHA... Pick any two. Being "portable" was the biggest challenge. Thinking we could use threaded legs, to make a portable stool and still be historic looking, I proceeded to search for a tap and die tool for wood. I found one and ordered the appropriate size. Once it came in I was a bit hesitant. The tap looked beefy enough but the die is a two handed deal made of plastic/nylon with a steel cutting bit. I went to the local hardwood store "Timber Woodworking" and found some 1-1/4 oak dowels. They were out of most sizes/wood variations at the time, but I'll revisit again later. I also found a chunk of maple to make seats with. If you haven't priced wood lately (especially hardwood), you might be a bit surprised. Hardwood dowels are not cheap nor is maple stock in 7" X 1-3/4" chunks. Only about $9 a foot! Anyway, got home and proceeded to mark up and drill the prescribed hole in the seat at a 15deg angle. Managed to get thru that and attempted the tap. It turned out to be a stumbling block, I'm sure this cuts thru softwood like pine or fir like butter. But, Maple ... ah no. After an hour or so of struggle, I walked away for a bit. It was catching the wood pretty hard and I was afraid I was gonna break the tap if I twisted any harder. Not to mention my muscles were screaming. The instructions said to oil the wood, and I did, but apparently olive oil wasnt working. So after some research and investigation of other attachment methods I returned to it a week later. This time with the die on an oak dowel. Oak might be the plan going forward. It tends to chip the threads out a little at a time and the 4 legs went pretty quickly. I used Linseed oil this time. With this new found confidence, back to the maple seat. I liberally oiled with linseed along with the tap itself and started a new hole. This time it went a bit easier and faster. Likely the first hole I drilled was not true. My table top drill press does not have a deep enough throat, so it took two attempts to get thru the seat and it was binding. Make no mistake it still took some muscle and frequent oiling to get threads down the second hole but was much faster this time. This is was the test prototype and shows it underneath. But I have a plan to clean it up, level the legs and maybe tap the legs a little deeper so they come closer to the seat surface. The pilot holes in the seat are going to be cutouts to lighten it. But I wanted to get an idea of how it looked in stain. The first pic is a 17th century example from the Mary Rose, the next are my attempt...