madPete

piecing fabric is perfectly acceptable. They did that a lot

 

There is an older thread but its  outdated. Since there is a demand for information, sources and prices have changed a lot since the Covid era. I'm not going to maintain links (but will provide website name in parenthesis when possible). Will try to note the sources that might be more modern or not quite period (target is late 1600s thru early 1700s). Not promoting or recommending these sources. They are "for information only"...

I would like to stress making your own kit is the most historic and economical option (if you are able)

If you run across other sources please post them below and I'll add/edit appropriately to original post..

hat blanks:

   Etsy "shopboswell" - nice heavy hat blanks for reasonable prices (www.etsy.com)

   Veteran Arms - Hat blanks at reasonable prices

knitted hats:

   Etsy "KnitKriket" - various monmouth and other wool knitted hats (www.etsy.com)

   Js Townsends - Monmouth cap (www.townsends.us)

Shoes:

    Loyalist Arms - still lists the early shoes with wood heels. These are excellent, but there was a long lead time from my memory (www.loyalistarms.ca)

   Foxblade Trading: - various early shoes (www.re-enactment-shoes.co.uk)

   Gossvile Shoes - early open side and colonial shoes (www.gossvillenh.com in US)

   Pumpkintown sutler - Various mens and womens shoes, some are later period

   Js Townsends - later 18th century/colonial style shoes (www.townsends.us)

   Fugawee.com - colonial style shoes (www.fugawee.com)

Cotton Stockings:

   Etsy "pennyriver" - These are reasonably priced Adult size cotton stockings in various colors, also silk (www.etsy.com)

   Js Townsend - various styles of Stockings in colors, and garters (www.townsends.us)

   The Cloak Drummer sutler - various cotton stockings (www.cloakdrummer.com)

   Etsy "historicalhatlady" - cotton stockings in various colors (www.etsy.com)

Hand made Stockings:

   Etsy "TheFlyingDeathsHead" - Handmade wool stockings (www.etsy.com)

Shirts:

   Js Townsend - linen workshirt and banded shirt in linen  (www.townsends.us)

   halfpint (on pyracy.com) - Handstitched linen shirts

Breeches/Slops:

   Js Townsend - Fly Front Knee Breeches and Front Fly trousers in linen (www.townsends.us)

   Loyalist Arms - Website says inquire about Sailor slops under new products (www.loyalistarms.ca)

   White Pavilion Clothiers - French fly slops in canvas (www.whitepavilion.com

   G Gedney Godwin Sutler - Sailor slops in Striped cotton (www.gggodwin.com)

   Slops By Chaaps - Sailor slops in natural linen (etsy.com)

Waistcoats:

    Etsy "historicalhatlady" - various waistcoats, later but passable with modified pocket flaps (www.etsy.com)

   js Townsend - 1750s waistcoat in linen, later but passable considering lack of sources (www.townsends.us)

   Slop by Chaaps - Sailor long and short waistcoats (sleeved and unsleeved) in linen (etsy.com)

Stays:

    Samson Historical - stays, shifts (www.samsonhistorical.com)

Market Wallet:

    Samsons Historical - linen market wallet (www.samsonhistorical.com)

Buckles:

    "Bucklecastings" on Facebook - various buckles buttons, etc based on dug examples

Buttons:

    js Townsend - has pewter, brass and plain buttons (www.townsends.us)

   Veteran Arms - various styles (www.veterarms.com)

   Blockade Runner - plain penny buttons (www.blockaderunner.com)

Fabric:

   Fabrics Store - various weights of 100% linen and some other fabrics (www.fabrics-store.com)

  Wm Booth Draper - various wool and linen fabrics (www.wmboothdraper.com)

  Burnley and Trowbridge - various wool and notions (www.burnleyandtrowbridge)

Hemp Rope:

  Hemp Traders - Various sizes of hemp rope (www.hemptraders.com)

Tents: (sometimes a long lead time - dont wait)

  Panther Primitives - various tent styles (pantherprimitives.com)

  Red Hawk Trading - various tent styles (www.redhawktrading.com)

  Tent Smiths - various tent styles (www.tentsmiths.com)

Uniforms:

  Veteran Arms - French and British uniforms tho later 18th century (www.veteranarms.com)

Lanterns:

   Rob Gorrell - Makes excellent period lanterns (www.robgorrell.com)

You should make matching coat, waistcoat and breeches! augment with some red or gold tape.

 

what happened to the janky sleeve? I thought you were talking about the lining...

you can always come back to it after you clear your head. I've had a few mistakes over the years that bugged me enough to go back and redo. just needed a break from it for a while.

completely forgot about Js Townsend buttons

These were domed:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/334872476769?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20221115143614%26meid%3D427a0d965d1243e2a594eb625a98f94e%26pid%3D101616%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D334872476769%26itm%3D334872476769%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D4375194%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p4375194.c101616.m5481&_trkparms=parentrq%3A7ebfd0bb1890aab3648748f0fffe2438|pageci%3A3856d6ba-28b9-11ee-9ce4-2a2397d6e5c7|iid%3A1|vlpname%3Avlp_homepage

There were some domed buttons too, just have to search and look sometimes...

I tried out the bale marks today. Pretty cool! Thanks Michael!!!!

I'll ship the HudsonBay and Dutch east India co to you (Duchess) next week.

William is going to hang onto the WTF balemark (Not shown).

And I'll hang on to the Mercury balemark for now. Maybe bring to Mercury events if anyone wants to use it.

 

If you search for "metal shank buttons" on ebay, sometimes you can find plain or simple metal buttons. brass buttons are expensive these days...

example:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/164324939168?hash=item26428795a0:g:MswAAOSwEqlfLFD3&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwB5sj775efxYOeaQYYPzCYNr%2B09k7VEm4E2BNYS9MEkct1Y35pmyzMpQZkJiyrrKA5AzH9li7OhZ%2B0qL%2F71NzbUiULM%2FwokrJ6zmKzXB5Efg8ucZ22CpA0nX3LUjVgWEDlfzq3c58nxl1jda8gWBUiZ6FcQifEGEBg0azUhy51mL71SgRLdCTQONy7ZGDJPxFmP4g4Z5iOW0lFV%2FjI5yTMXWK7%2BTJgExsucPpkWTdq%2BZrdknHlG%2Bc%2FdIdDRrrt47VA%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR9DzkOOvYg

26 minutes ago, TudorSmith said:

Finished the lining and started putting it in the shell this morning. Got excited about it, and how close to "done" I was....till I remembered that i still have to do buttons and buttonholes after this is done 😐

Which, part of me thought I'd just do cloth covered buttons but.....not happening. Metal buttons it is..i think I have enough in my stash but if anyone has s good source on buttons to share I wouldn't mind suggestions.

 

After this, another shirt, another pair of slops, some skirts, a waistcoat if I have time....

Looking good! Whaaat?!? You still have 7 weeks, get on it! (just kidding).

I used this tutorial to make wool buttons for my Justaucorp. It took 132 buttons(!!) and I was worried about cost and total weight of metal buttons. These were easy to make and are period.

https://thedreamstress.com/2015/06/making-medieval-cloth-buttons/

 

Last I heard, lunches were going to be provided by fort. Trying to confirm.

I tried a couple other sites at the time and they came right back instantly. The Pub just kind of crawled and slowly delivered the images a few pixels at a time. It might have been my ISP as well, just dont know

 

4 hours ago, Mission said:

Is Iron Jon coming?

When I talked to him a couple weeks ago, he was planning on coming.

received these from Michael today. Even a note sealed with wax and your stamp. Thank You!

Looks like Hudson Bay company, Dutch East Indies Company, Mercury, and block made for Bo's WTF company.

I'm gonna stamp some canvas and then pass them along.

Some new socks arrived today. When I went thru mine before Long Beach, some had huge holes and I gave a couple pair to my son. These were from Etsy Penny River. so far they look pretty nice.

I found if you wear anklet socks under your long socks, they last much longer! Provides some additional padding too.

2 hours ago, TudorSmith said:

It's always amazing to me when the little fiddly bits feel like they take just as long to do as major construction parts....

1 pocket done.one pocket 3/4th done. Hopefully finish that tonight and get the lining cut. Definitely going collarless on this one.....I'm over the little time sinks....

 

Pockets always slow it down, but they are necessary. Lookiing good!

6 hours ago, Stynky Tudor said:

I have a couple coolers that I plan to bring, not sure that I'll make covers in time.

1-LARGEish size
I figured we can use it for food and or drinks

1-MEDIUM
Holds a couple six packs

 

Canvas, Canvas, canvas...

We'll have to do Ice runs periodically. There's a bulk ice machine across form Circle K as you enter the island. its 1-1/2 ish [miles] from there to the fort.

Anyone have a decent soft side cooler?  I was looking online and surprised how expensive they are. We can buy cheap ones there at walmart and just keep them full of ice, but a quality one would be very useful as it holds the ice longer.

recommendations?

So we have two big dinner nights Friday and Saturday, and a smaller group Thursday. Sunday will be teardown so no production dinner. Those staying on til Monday morning will need to forage or ad-hoc something. (Thinking we need to get cooking gear back to Chris on Sunday, and someone deliver women's tent to Chris on Monday)

Here's another Williamsburg recipe, basically thin beef wrapped around a stuffing and kebob on the fire. (no olives LOL). might be a good side to the above Ragoo French beans

https://www.colonialwilliamsburg.org/learn/recipes/beef-olives/

 

Proposed dinners...

Thursday Dinner: Pasta and white sauce, greens, bread, vegetable dish

Friday Dinner: Ragoo-french-beans and Beef olives (see recipes), greens, bread

Saturday Dinner: Vegetable stew with BBQ'd Beef or BBQ'd chicken  on the side that can be added to stew (or not), greens, bread

maybe need some sort of dessert dish as well like sweet potato pie?

 

other ideas, comments?

 

I ran across this dish on the Colonial Williamsburg site. Maybe served with a meat dish of some type (or bacon on the side of course)?

https://www.colonialwilliamsburg.org/learn/recipes/ragoo-french-beans/

17 hours ago, TudorSmith said:

Yeah the cot is only minimally about comfort. I mainly need it as something to get up off the ground to cut the damp and chill. Obviously longer legs would provide that even better but not so much to warrant the extra packing space. I have to say this does feel much more supportive then the old Colman camp bed I used to use. 

The camp pad really has been the good find. It's narrower, but sturdier feeling then a regular air mattress. It definitely feels more firm/less prone to sag too. It said on Amazon that it had like an r3 insulation level....which I doubt, but better then a wholly uninsulated conventional air mattress. But I plan on lining the bottom of the mattress pad cover with like an emergency blanket or something to help insulate, and blankets on top should do the trick 

I think taller eliminates dampness but increases chill. The ground provides insulation. Less air circulating underneath you when down low is a good thing. I would even stuff things underneath to block the air. I was a on a normal height cot at one event in Northern arizona, with 2 wool blankets doubled up underneath me, one on top and a wool great coat and I was still cold. Yet when I sleep on the ground on a self inflating camp mattress (1-1/2 inches tall at most) I'm fine with a single blanket underneath.

That's a serious breakfast.   If you had 10 people buy in, can you estimate the cost per person?

Thanks HalfPint!

2 hours ago, TudorSmith said:

This makes sense and honestly kind of relieves me. My logic in asking was that if accomodations were to be made best to know about them as far in advance as possible, but I agree with with the sentiment that this is an optional buy in, with limited resources.

It was a good question which allowed me to set the expectations. We'll try but no promises.

I ran into something similar at a Rev war event and someone was put out because there was no kosher food at a potluck. Better to set the expectations on the front end. We do have limited resources but we'll do the best we can to feed our group.