Liam McMac

Well sir the only thing that instantly comes to mind are an old pair of size (14) 18th century shoes LOL

Glad to see another Celt with a firm "understanding" in this life

The only place I've found that carry them is Fugawee's!!! Everyone else just looks at you and laughs!

Aye sir... The ladies love us but cobblers hate us

HAR HAR HAR

WHITE SLOPS SOLD

what would you like to trade anything you are looking for nice slops and waistcoat

Well sir the only thing that instantly comes to mind are an old pair of size (14) 18th century shoes LOL

If you have something you might want to offer up let me know

1 Brocade waistcoat with covered buttons and non-funtional pocket flaps. This waistcoat is quite heavy and will fit up to a 46 inch chest.

$45 or trade... make me an offer

3 pairs of slops

2 pairs of size 36-40 inch waist (1) in brown ticking (1) in plain white

1 pair of size 40-44 in brown ticking

These are of light-weight canvas with funtional front pockets and waist adjustments. These slops are measured in actual inches, not pant-sizes so... measure where you wear your pants. Sorry folks these have a little hand-work but are mostly machine made. 30 inches long and unhemed. I assure you that they are good quality.

$45 a pair or trade.... make me an offer

*free shipping

(These are pub member prices) all others pay with their lives.

Oh man... I feel for you

2 Below has got to be one of the finest ales ever made

A few years back we didn't have New Belgium here either... I made it my mission to harass the management until they sent it our way hahaha.

Hey... something is weird with that page...

I just got a nasty virus...some add for virus protection that I can't get off of my computer...

I know Fayma didn't do it... but these chunks of sh** embedded a program when I went there....

www.buy-internet-security2010.com (and DO NOT check them out.... it's a virus...a program that downloaded onto my computer, and I can't delete it....

now I get a pop-up ever few minutes telling me about a virus... and it's them......

You are not the only one, Patrick. Same has happened to me - scareware called Antivirus Soft. So, no computer until I get it fixed - the iPhone will have to get me thru til then (limited, but better than nothing).

Hey guys...go to your tools and put a shortcut for your SYSTEM RESTORE on your desktop.... next restart your comp and before that ADWARE can start up double click your SYSTEM RESTORE and start it up for a date before you got the ADWARE. You have to be quick before everything on your desktop starts. This usualy fixes the problem. Good luck!

A tall, frothy mug of 2 Below by New Belgium

and now Rum and Root Beer... The official drink of the Iron Brigade

Liam--the jumps are on my form that i made out of duct tape(ME)... so they are for the correct person... and you are right about i would look like a ren faire chick { which i wish to avoid at all costs!!!}

Now that's awesome... I need to make a ductape clone hahaha

Looks good to me

Has anyone had dealing with Michael the Tailor? Is he still in business? I was thinking of buying trousers from him. Has anyone got his email address? Thanks

Unfortunately, Michael died a few years back. His wife is keeping the website up as a memorial to him. He did excellent work, and was extremely reasonable with his prices. A great loss to the reenactor community !!!

>>>>> Cascabel

That guy had one of the widest selections of clothing I've ever seen.. very impressive

ok----

this draft is based on Mooses /Captain Sterlings second posted picture...

1.i think the neck line is a bit too high and perhaps even not quite the correct curve/shape

2. i think the arm scythes are too high and need instead a deeper cut

sooo..... does anyone mind comparing the 2 garments and telling me your opinion?

and i also think i read that they had boning in the side seams AND the back down the middle... what say you?

and i fully intend to runa small slice of boning down the front right and left side so that the spiral lacing wont bunch up the front

opinions please!!!

Who are you making the jumps for? Is that dressform an exact copy of that person? If not then you may need to put the draft on them before you trim anything. I may be telling you something you already know but anywhoo... If you added boning only where you stated it would make it like a typical french bodice like most women wear at faire. I think it would look odd like that since the body is much longer. Like Callenish said above... You should add boning all the way 'round yet with wide spacing.

I say we plan a raid on the pawn shop.... all show up armed and ask the guys to point out the real guns... you know...put 'em on the spot as it were.

funny show by the way

Nice kit matey.

When I was in the US a few years back I went to an SCA thing in my Elizabethan sailor gear (very similar to Pat's, and I suspect based on the same picture), and even amongst the SCA only one perosn recognised me for what I was.

If you can get hold of a copy, the Mariners' Mirror, vol. 8 (1922), contains an article called 'The Dress of the British Seaman; From the Earliest TImes Till 1600' (pp. 324-333), the second part of the article, dealing with the first half of the 17thC might also contain useful stuff and was published in MM vol. 9 (1923), pp. 162-173.

Might I also draw your attention to THIS PAGE.

Thank you sir... I figure that my kit is pretty similar to a few of those outfits. I don't think I could stand wearing a ruff like some of those cats have so I'll opt out of that part of the kit. I've seen a few hat styles in this book I own called What People Wore and I like those tall hats that resemble pilgrim hats but with a much smaller brim. If anything maybe people will comment on the hat and we can chat about the rest.

Will work on a new hat and post pics

By Whitebeard ya mean Weezer, or ya callin' me Whitebeard. If the latter be the case...I'm not French...I don't care what me wife says....I'm not French...But them socks are.....Haaaarrrrrrrrrr.

Not you ya crusty ol' barnacle... yes I was refering to Wheezer the Roaming Gnome... although that beard you got there is mighty white... impressive too.

Aye... Mcdonalds taste better roasted than boiled

I wonder what colour 'sad coloured' is?

not pink... for sure not pink

Sterling sir... you are the man

ah... just trying to clarify what we see in one of Foxe's great pictures and think plaid and/or tartan... they were thinking check...

Yes well... I guess the term is... my bad. There I go thinking in modern terms again... gotta stop doing that in this time capsule of piracy. Check was check whether simple or complex.... aye aye

Oh... and Callenish... that's why I don't go for clan tartans. I just wear what looks nice.

Travail gentil, mate!

Hey.... my cap'n started it

hahaha

the French have their uses... one of our crew by the name of Whitebeard is a Frenchman.

Sterling sir... you are the man

Intrigomon...

I was given to the understanding that a tartan is a pattern and a plaid is a piece of cloth, and that to confuse the two was an Americanism.

These examples appear to speak otherwise.

Plaid is the Gaelic word for blanket and since the Scots always wore big blankets of tartan material... the english speaking folks heard them call them plaids and soon the design became known as plaid to Yanks and Englishmen

HAHAHAHA

I'm quite sure that in this thread we've near completed the script to a scene in a Tarantino movie

I think it's important to differentiate between tartan and checked fabric.

What the sailors in the England's Safety frontispiece (and yes, that is me and mine) are wearing are not kilts (for many reasons), and almost certainly not what one would call tartan, because they're English not Scottish. Likewise, the Mallorcan sailor in the picture you posted is wearing check, but not what you'd call tartan if you're honest. Incidentally, FWIW, I suspect that picture to be late-ish 18thC.

Now, if you want evidence of checked clothing (as opposed to tartan), there's bucket loads.

Of course, as you say, there's no reason that a highlander who went to sea should have discarded their tartan clothing. On the other hand, as I said, in the written descriptions of hundreds and hundreds of articles of sailors' clothing from the period that I've read the quotation I posted above is the only one which suggests tartan sailors' jacket.

I have absolutely no vested interest in what you wear or do not wear, so make of my comments what you will.

If you are interested in the Scots highlanders I thoroughly recommend the relevant chapter of The Invention of Tradition, edited by Eric Hobsbawm, which is partly available on Google Books (via the link I've embedded in the title).

Indeed... well I would say that Checked is to Tartan as Whiskey is to Scotch. They're basicaly the same aside from the country of origin. What is now considered to be 'tartan' has only recently become so due to specific regulations. Checked textiles were in use throughout northern Europe for a millenium before the 18th century. In modern terms tartan is required to have matching warp and weft but it was not always so. The design on many 'checked' 18th century shirts would technicaly be a 'tartan' since the warp and weft are identical. But really it's creating split ends.

All of the info... as always... is greatly apreciated.

my sailors short coat is a tarten...the material is period...the style is period...and the scotts were known to make coats out of it...and is warm ta boot for the sailor at sea

here here... a fine coat indeed

I'm intrigued by the 'several plates with sailors wearing tartan breeches and slops'. Any chance of sharing?

http://www.bonaventu...g.uk/index.html

"England's Safety: Or, a Bridle to the French King" 1693.

This link is wierd you have to go to the gallery page

have seen this picture several times in other postings... we could debate all day about what they are really wearing (kilts?) but they are wearing tartan regardless.

http://www.nmm.ac.uk...?reproID=PW0363

not sure of the period but must be 18th century or earlier since he's wearing trousers. These trousers are at least checked if not tartan.

I've seen more but cannot locate the liks at the moment.

Furthermore on the subject of Scotsman... durring the jacobite uprising many a Scotsman wore tartan breeches. Say a Scotsman were to turn pirate of sailor (like myself) before the uprising... why would he toss out his breeches simply because he joined the crew of a ship?

http://www.nmm.ac.uk...?reproID=PW0363

http://imagecache2.a...12069618801.jpg

I belive the last one is of Prince Charlie

I made a shortcoat of tartan wool some months back for my Highlander/Jacobite kit... just curious if it would be to outlandish to wear it with a pirate kit?

I have seen several plates with sailors wearing tartan breeches and slops but have yet to see any reenactors wearing tartan for pirate events...

What say ye?

Pirates being pirated??!!

What is this world comin to?

very sorry to hear.... I hope the best