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Ok not sure if period maps are what you are looking for but here arfe a few that mayt help. They all come from, http://www.cummingmapsociety.org/maps.htm these came off the 18th century page( http://www.cummingmapsociety.org/18thC_Maps.htm for their history) and one is is not GAoP http://www.cummingmapsociety.org/J_1719_En...erica_Senex.jpg http://www.cummingmapsociety.org/J_1742_A_...ens_Mortier.jpg I"ll look through some of my files for more when I get home but I doubt I have any better.

Jeff Gordon Repeditive I know but..........

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Wayn.... Do wha...... huh.... Dude that is so far off it ain't even funny I mean really did you think about that answer? Seriously, I ain't mocking you here but man thats off. Any way I'll still call it your turn since I'm out for a few weeks but the correct answer is The Enemy Below. Your only off by 35 years. Hope your better at Halo and unless I'm wrong thats a qote from Rush Hour. If so I give my turn to Duchess.

Many Thanks capt.

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I belive thats Reservoir Dogs. I'm gonna throw this one out wether any one gets it or not I will reveal the answer tonight as I'm leaving out on Monday. He's the devil Heine. Somehow somehow we must lose him ....or kill him.

Off topic and OoP here but, 1 Even though I've refrenced the Seeadler a couple of times I've always done it by what I've been told is the English translation of Sea Eagle is this correct? 2 My only refrence on the Seeadler is one breif overveiw I found can anyone reccommened others? 3 My overveiw states the ship ran aground on an uncharted reef is this correct?

Right is it my ESP or the fact this test is crummier than normal that allowed me to know I'd get the same result as every one else?

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Well My MY MY You know the only problem with Kass's work is at some point we are gonna come to expect this level of brillance and no longer be impressed by it. Course then agian thats some time off I mean the only other comprable work in that regard is the Pyramids at Giza and they still hold plenty of charm. :) Excellent work all the way around Kass and Capt. Sterling HUZZAH

Ok on the subject of lamps I got a little more info but as always it's a little thin and leaves more to guess but here goes First up an 18th century oil lamp http://www.sciencetech.technomuses.ca/engl...recieuse/huile/ no nautical application there to my eye. Next Indian oil lamps from the 16th,17th,and 18th cent. http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...s%3Den%26sa%3DN Time frame is covered but not local although to be honest these are the only thing that even looks like I'd light on a tall ship. Next up is an example of Theatere lighting from the 17th cent. http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...s%3Den%26sa%3DN I posted this as an example of how little lamps changed over time. To be honest this is like most lamps I've found in my net search they really are just reincarnation's of early clay oil lamps just made in metal. Last but not least the closest thing I can get to time frame availability and local .....the "Betty Lamp" http://www.ramshornstudio.com/early_lighting_2.htm Agian it's just like a Roman (or earlier) oil lamp in metal. It appears to be OoP but I never found a hard start date for it so LATE period it may be. I can't find any thing that would counter the idea of candles as the main means of lighting but it does not appear oil lamps ever disappeared from the scene. As to fuel it appears from what I've seen animal fat was primary in lamps until kerosene swept in. Although whale oil was great it was expensive at over $2.00 a gallon or $200.00 a gallon in moderen terms to quote one sites estimate and early mixtures of alchool and turpentine were also expensive and prone to go BOOM!!!! all by there selves. Even worse were the home brew concotions that people cooked up to save money.(All of these alternitaves are OoP but thought you might like to know.) I doubt this is THE final thought on this but my final thought of this post is that oil lamps were exsistant may have been used in GAOP era taverns and homes (in witch case they'd burn animal fat most likely) but most likely never went to sea. It also appears from what I can see that theatere lights in 17th and early 18th century weren't much diffrent than home lighting (Not really disagreeing with you here Kass) witch to some degree makes sense at this point given the relative lack of advances in lighting from the stone age to that point and as a side note if I recall correctly the "globe" that surronds most lights today to diffuse and spread light was an invention for theatre that quickly spread to home use. However obviously lime lights and arc lights never made it big on the residential side

Yeah I get your point Phil I've just never been accused of being an artiste before. Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to get a beret and some paint brushes before my mood changes

Introverted (I) 52.38% Extroverted (E) 47.62% Sensing (S) 55.56% Intuitive (N) 44.44% Feeling (F) 58.82% Thinking (T) 41.18% Perceiving (P) 62.16% Judging (J) 37.84% ISFP - "Artist". Interested in the fine arts. Expression primarily through action or art form. The senses are keener than in other types. 8.8% of total population. Yeah ummm just as a question am I the only one who thinks this an inacurrate description of ME. Kinda odd never answered the questions on a test honestly before and got ARTIST in any way shape or form. Might have to try that agian.

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I happen to like tv course then agian I pretty much only watch the history channel, History Channel International, TLC, and the Discovery channel. If i didn't like so many of the shows that come on those channels I'd probaply ditch the sat. hook up as nothing else really comes on. The National Geographic chanel is such a d*** let down course so is the Magazine as of late. I did let my subscription to it end.

That's genius Patrick

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I see your point PyratePhil and belive me the stories themselves do lead me it's when I either a get to haveing too much fun with it and or get to making it to large for a short story that I run into trouble. Let me give you 2 examples of what I mean. 1 I never did have a title for this but it's basically my take on the alt. history of WWII genre. Essentially D-Day fails and all the weird wonderful stuff they scrapped because the war went better than planned comes into play. (Yes I know it's most likely been done but these are for me not really publication so......) Problem arose when I tried to throw in to much fun stuff and since that's basically the whole point trying to collapse it turned out to be a bummer and the story is shelcved at the moment. 2 The End of Space, No this isn't my take on crappy 50's sci fi but it's a result of a couple concepts that seem made for one another. Concept one is that due to the extreme amount of space debris the Earth could in the future become surrounded by trash equivalent of chain mail armor. Concept two ballistic missle defence system. The idea was this concept was the last gasp of a scientist long involved with Govt. work and was a last line of defence agianst nuclear winter. Problem too many charcters to make the story work. agian stry shelved I like following the story but at times it leads me astray

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Yes I did read them both but admittedly I only read the second after you asked about it (fantasy isn't a big genre for me) The second one is as PyratePhil noted more detailed and seems more like a 3rd or 4th draft however with my own biasis applied I like the first better. One thought it doesn't seem you have trouble with but I run into is making sure the story goes where you want it too. I've junked several of my short stories cause even though I love the concept I can't make it work in that form. Just a thought to bear in mind when you do more work on them