Capt. Sterling Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Some clothing over hoops "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 (edited) And some interesting images, that have subjects that don't really seem to be wearing any type of hoop circa 1708-9 granted the last one is in the comfort of her own home circa 1693 Edited May 20, 2009 by Capt. Sterling "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 (edited) kind of reminds me of the Valdemar Slot Gown a bit around the front Edited May 20, 2009 by Capt. Sterling "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 This one shows the pleating I am always talking about rather well... "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silkie McDonough Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 oh ...I may just have found the project for my green velvet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 This late 17th Century Dutch gown was a fairly current fine (3 months) ? Find by whom? "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeky Actress Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 QUOTE (Cheeky Actress @ May 20 2009, 11:42 AM) This late 17th Century Dutch gown was a fairly current fine (3 months) ? Find by whom? I meant "I found it approx. 3 months back....just brought it out of the 'wouldn't it be nice to have this' project file. Member of "The Forsaken" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Ah understood "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeky Actress Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I don't know why, but every time I look at the marketplace picture of those ladies buying those foundation garments...I always think of this... Member of "The Forsaken" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyBrower Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Wow! Awesome pictures Captain, thank you so much! Maybe someday I will be fancy and wear my beloved hoops. =) And I LOVE the pleating on that gown. It's just amazing! Cook and Seamstress to the Half Moon Marauders Lady Brower's Treasures, Clothing and other treasures Hell Hath No Fury like the Wrath of a Woman... No that's it. She doesn't need a reason. www.myspace.com/halfmoonmarauders www.myspace.com/faerienoodle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyBarbossa Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 LOL... Bat-hoops, hmm? Ooooo... awesome image there, Sterling. Now, be this image the same outfit that Cheeky posted? Be there a lot of images on this? ~Lady B Tempt Fate! an' toss 't all t' Hell!" "I'm completely innocent of whatever crime I've committed." The one, the only,... the infamous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Hmmm I think there is one more... google Valdermar Slot Gown "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silkie McDonough Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) Image from aboveThis one shows the pleating I am always talking about rather well... First let me say ...I love it ...next let me say ...COUCH!I was in a play once ...between the wooden comb in my hair and the boning in the stays and the hip roll and the fabric of the dress ...I felt like a couch! Edited May 21, 2009 by Silkie McDonough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeky Actress Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 It's got to be the fabric?! I think if one keeps with the look of the green/pink fabric...everyone will be calling the wearer "Lady Davenport" Member of "The Forsaken" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LadyBarbossa Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Lady Sofa Davenport of Couch Oh, God, help me... Thank ye, Sterling. Found it... plus the other mantuas that was displayed on the page. It did have one image that gave a basic idea of it's "construction"... sort of. Kinda gives you the idea. The side with that pleating... interesting. But the sleeve pleats that way baffle me the most. Is it me, or was it possible the dress was an older dress and just... refitted and taken in? ~Lady B Tempt Fate! an' toss 't all t' Hell!" "I'm completely innocent of whatever crime I've committed." The one, the only,... the infamous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 When you get a chance and a copy, take a look at Janet Arnold's Mantua pattern in the back of Patterns of Fashion... I think its vol. 1 The sleeves on her pattern are pleated in a very similar fashion... I just like the Valdemar Gown for being another example of pleats on the outside.... "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyBarbossa Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Coolies. Will be a while. Apparently that book is... rather pricy. ~Lady B Tempt Fate! an' toss 't all t' Hell!" "I'm completely innocent of whatever crime I've committed." The one, the only,... the infamous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyBrower Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 When you get a chance and a copy, take a look at Janet Arnold's Mantua pattern in the back of Patterns of Fashion... I think its vol. 1The sleeves on her pattern are pleated in a very similar fashion... I just like the Valdemar Gown for being another example of pleats on the outside.... That's how the sleeves on my mantua are done more or less (I was going off that book for the patter, and the lovely lisa helped me make sense of it all). Will be a while. Apparently that book is... rather pricy. I got my copy off of Amazon for 25 bucks... I thought it was worth it. Cook and Seamstress to the Half Moon Marauders Lady Brower's Treasures, Clothing and other treasures Hell Hath No Fury like the Wrath of a Woman... No that's it. She doesn't need a reason. www.myspace.com/halfmoonmarauders www.myspace.com/faerienoodle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeky Actress Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 $25 bucks?! That's it?!...I'm there.... ...and you are quite welcome Lady Brower! Member of "The Forsaken" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Alexander Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I think that's about what I paid for my copy as well. Also purchased from Amazon. If you're gonna give me a headache, please bring me an aspirin! http://www.forttaylorpyrates.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyBrower Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Oh My GOSH! I am so excited!!! I just came back from a garage sale, and they were selling ROLLS of decorator fabric for 2 and 5 dollars... I picked up some brocades and a velvet and I don't even know how many yards.... TONS! I found one that is really cool that I might try to replicate that slot gown out of. Granted, everything is cotton and blends, but it has the LOOK and for 15 bucks for a ton of fabric... it's enough to have some fun with. Before my dress though, hubby is getting a coat and waistcoat. YEY! Cook and Seamstress to the Half Moon Marauders Lady Brower's Treasures, Clothing and other treasures Hell Hath No Fury like the Wrath of a Woman... No that's it. She doesn't need a reason. www.myspace.com/halfmoonmarauders www.myspace.com/faerienoodle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyBarbossa Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 $25??!? Seriously? I'm with Cheeky.... the ones I've been seeing are around $100, give or take $20 at most. Wow... $25... I can SO handle that then. :) Easier to fork over that much than $100+. Oh, wicked, Lady Brower! :) Nice find. ~Lady B Tempt Fate! an' toss 't all t' Hell!" "I'm completely innocent of whatever crime I've committed." The one, the only,... the infamous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Alexander Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) Are we talking about the same book? Patterns of Fashion 1, Janet Arnold. It's currently available from amazon, used for 18.87, new 26.37. List price on the back is 39.95, where are you seeing it for 100, so I know never to look for books there. Edited May 22, 2009 by Haunting Lily If you're gonna give me a headache, please bring me an aspirin! http://www.forttaylorpyrates.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyBrower Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 http://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Fashion-166...0813&sr=8-1 26.37 new with free shipping. =) Cheap enough that I am OK with writing my notes right in the book... =P Cook and Seamstress to the Half Moon Marauders Lady Brower's Treasures, Clothing and other treasures Hell Hath No Fury like the Wrath of a Woman... No that's it. She doesn't need a reason. www.myspace.com/halfmoonmarauders www.myspace.com/faerienoodle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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