Cascabel

What is going to be the "official" way of recommending or nominating people for consideration for membership ? I see people being mentioned in the public Order of Leviathan thread, and wonder if that is going to be the way it is to be done, or will it be done by e-mail to Pirates Magazine, or some other route ?

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I still cant believe that Papa just climed up the rigging on the bounty to take thsoe overhead shots. Amazing!

" 'Tis far easier to gain forgiveness than to get permission"

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Aye !!!, sez I. Let's make the name our own, and toss the crackpots and people that deliberately mis-construe things overboard where they belong !! I am not a person that feels obligated to justify things to idiots......

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Do I see the first juried pyrate event on the horizon...?

The only way that could happen would be if the event organizer and sponsors wanted it that way. They are mostly trying to appeal to a broad spectrum of the public in order to attract attendees. Remember, we are always playing in someone else's sandbox......

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Set not Satan - Setian just makes them followers of some (made up) brand of Egyptian religion. And as far as I know, the Egyptians didn't have any concept of Satan – so I'm not sure that they are actually connected.

But really that's besides the point. Like so many good ideas, company and crew names, people often happen upon this stuff independently of each other, even at the same time because it sounds cool – and that's what copyright lawyers are for.

Besides the word Leviathan has been with us for centuries to explain away missing and wrecked ships. I don't see a reason to let some unknown (Wikipideia) cult take our name from us. Hell, lets steal it from them!

I mean as bad-ass as any of us want to play being pyrate – I don't know anyone here that wants to be part of a group that carries the negative baggage of some death cult, like the followers of Set or the Satanic Church.

Aye, I think we should steal the name and the fame away from the wacko devil worshipers.

Us pirates is better !!!

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Aye, A great idea !! We just need to get the rest of us on board.....

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It would seem that the Lord proprietors of Maryland have set a trap for those whom they have invited to attend with out their arms. (or that could bees just bees scuttlebutt or not we will wait and sees)

I for one will let the Order of the Leviathan and the Devil's Dozen pave the way to see if they will ever bees ready for blood and thunder till then I's will steer well clear of fells point and Baltimore's inner harbor as I does not care for hemp neck ties or iron gibbet swings, thank yea for letting us knows that we are not welcome to come as ourselves as it were till then I will set me sail for more hospitable waters and ports of call like Charleston as is no metropolitan port of call say yea high faulting privateers with their letter of mark from the lords proprietors poppycock and peacock feathers they thumb their noses at southern hospitality and say they know how to have a good time, ha I think not It's sets a poor president that they call for those that purports to the leaders and they bees willing to take the silver and blades but them would support such are not trusted to carry theirs as a the free men they arrrs

Ye make good points here mate ye surly do, we will make the best of it! In this case we trade weapons for ships. We have both the Pride of Baltimore and the Bounty on dock and sea. This be an event of honor and celebration of top pirates in our community and for that I'll put down my weapons. I will however consider your recommendation of Charleston for next Years honoring the Devil's Dozen into the Order of Leviathan.

I think that Charleston, SC would be an excellent choice for next year's Devil's Dozen event. It is certainly a city rich in pirate and maritime history!

......As fer meself, I vote fer Beaufort, NC. A very pirate friendly town, and a Blackbeard connection also !!!

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I am thinking about adding a belt hook to mine. I know it's not the norm, but niether am I.

Good idea !! I installed belt hooks on all of my pistols. Makes for much easier carrying. They may not have been "original issue" on everything, but the fact that they existed in period is sufficient excuse to have them. I figure that once a pistol got out of the hands of the military, any reasonable modification was not only possible, but probable....

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Hmmmmmm...... I always wondered what she would look like nekkid !!!

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What about the sea battle, if there is one ?

Yes, there will be a sea battle @ 5PM involving the Pride Of Baltimore, Bounty and Schooner Farewell.

The Pride is the only vessel taking passengers for the battle http://www.pride2.or...d/day_sails.php

Who, exactly, are considered "entertainment crews" ?

These are groups hired by Fells Point Main Street (event host) to do performances on Broadway Pier.

Will there be black powder demonstrations, and who will be allowed to fire ?

As stated earlier there is a full living history camp on the Bond Street Wharf. The camp will have numerous demonstrations, including small arms and a cannon line. The demonstrations will be done by the members of the encampment. We will not be able to accommodate guests / visitors on the line.

Do the rules apply to both swords and guns, or just guns ?

Both

What about walking to and from the LH camp, or other "approved" areas ?

How would "approved" weapons carrying people be identified ?

If NOT going into the bars, are weapons OK to wear while walking around ?

Members of the encampment are authorized their weapons during the DAYTIME activities - no one from the encampment will be carrying during the ball or pub crawl.

If you are not working this event then you are a visitor, and asked to abide by the event rules. If you bring and carry a weapon anyway it is at your own risk.

Please note:

I only manage the LH aspect of the event, not the entire event. Also at this point we do not have capacity to bring any additional groups / individuals into the encampment. If anyone is interested in participating next year they are welcome to contact me by email.

Thanks for the clarification. I didn't want to inadvertently run afoul of the rules. What about non-firing replicas, plastic blades, etc., while we are on the subject ??

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Weapons

Friday Night Ball at Frederick Douglas Center: NO WEAPONS

Sat Night Pub Crawl: NO WEAPONS >>DO NOT GOING DRINKING AT BARS WITH WEAPONS<<

The Leviathan Banquet is a separate event and under different rules - please refer to Pirate Magazine

Privateer Day: Has a strict no-weapons policy. The only exceptions to that are the entertainment crews when they are on stage, and the LH camp participants.

I KNOW THIS IS A SORE POINT WITH REENACTORS WHO ATTEND, BUT THESE ARE THE RULES.

Before griping about the policy please consider:

This event is held downtown in a major urban city, this is not Hampton, Charleston or Key West. The Baltimore cops do not like seeing a bunch of people walking around carrying pistols, knives and swords.

Neither the police or event management have any way of knowing if you are responsible reenactor who knows how to properly handle their weapons or some whack job who dressed up with weapons and may hurt someone out of stupidity.

If you have any other questions plaese pot them here and I will try and answer them as best I can.

Lloyd Robbins

Fells Point Privateer Day LH Coordinator and Safety Officer

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Some clarification on the weapons policy please.....

What about the sea battle, if there is one ?

What about walking to and from the LH camp, or other "approved" areas ?

How would "approved" weapons carrying people be identified ?

Who, exactly, are considered "entertainment crews" ?

If NOT going into the bars, are weapons OK to wear while walking around ?

Do the rules apply to both swords and guns, or just guns ?

Will there be black powder demonstrations, and who will be allowed to fire ?

Each of these points need to be addressed, especially for people coming long distances like myself. No sense in bringing my weapons and related items if I can't wear them.

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Gee...now I wanna' crab on a leash for my outfit. Imagine the fun I could have with that...

Haha, yeah, I was wondering if anyone would catch that. These costumes were entirely my girlfriend's idea, and it all started out of her desire to create a pirate hat with a bird's nest in it. You can see the sandpiper sticking up over the top of her hat here, actually. And she has this fascination with crabs (yeah, I know, I know), so she really wanted to put one on a leash and take it around the ren faire with us. Oh the brilliant bits we played with that thing, hehe.

Ya done GOOOOOOOOD !!!! I can only imagine the fun you must have had messing with the "anal retentive" types !!! Rock on, Shipmate....

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Happy VD to all of ye!

Hey Mission, got any mercury to ease the symptoms?!?

!

Hmmmm..... Makes me kinda wonder how the MERCURY crew got it's name !!!! Maybe it's NOT the name of the ship ???

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Being Saturday morning (when I am typing this it is, anyhow), it only seems appropriate to come up with a cartoon we would all regard as a classic. This for all of you who, like me, used to waste your Saturday mornings camped in front of the TV in your PJs eating sugar-laden cereal watching cartoons:

Buccaneer Bunny

Ya done GOOD, Shipmate !!! Keep 'em coming....

>>> Cascabel

.............and the old cartoons had far better animation than the newer stuff !! The Hannah-Barbera era garbage (Flintstones, Yogi Bear, et al), seemed to lead to a rapid decline in what was acceptable in animation quality by the public.

I LOVE the older cartoons. I think they were actually aimed at the adult market, rather than for young children. Lots of sight gags, etc. that kids would not understand.

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Has anyone had dealing with Michael the Tailor? Is he still in business? I was thinking of buying trousers from him. Has anyone got his email address? Thanks

Unfortunately, Michael died a few years back. His wife is keeping the website up as a memorial to him. He did excellent work, and was extremely reasonable with his prices. A great loss to the reenactor community !!!

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How did you get plaster casts of your teeth? Very nice job you did there.

I once had teeth made for me that looked like "The Mask." (Er, the Jim Carrey version.) In fact I still have them somewhere. (They were painful to wear after awhile.) They didn't look near as nice as yours do, of course.

Yep, I should bring the ol' dental pelican onto the battlefield with me in the future. If you're lucky, I'll remove a few bonus teeth in the process. (I understand the pelican had a tendency to remove neighboring teeth if the surgeon wasn't careful.)

For those curious about the pelican, check out this post.

There have been several dental pelicans of various designs on ebay lately. A couple of them are still there....

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Independently wealthy gentleman of leisure....... And libertine.

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Still in search of a mainspring for my Palmetto 1777 Charlville Flintlock Pistol

i've looked at Dixie, log cabin, track of the wolf. none of them have the mainspring or carry the pistol. This Sucks can any one make me one let me know mate thankie

Hopefully you saved the pieces. I have had pretty good luck repairing broken mainsprings. Alternatively, making one is not out of the question, if you saved the pieces for reference. That particular pistol was reproduced by several different companies in the past, so being brand specific in your search may limit your results. In all likelihood, they are all similar enough to be a fairly close match as far as parts go. For instance, that model pistol was also sold by Navy Arms, and I believe Pedersoli and a couple of other Italian companies also listed it in their lineup.

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Just as an interesting bit of odd information to the stays thread.......

My grandmother, who was born in the 1870's always referrred to her corset as her "stays". I never quite understood it as a small child, but apparently she grew up referring to corsets as stays. I wonder for how long the term was in common use..... Any educated guesses ??

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Some of the depictions don't appear to be people dressed for cold weather. Note the unbuttoned coats exposed flesh, no scarfs, etc. in some of the pictures. I wonder if sometimes the muffs were more of a fashion accessory, rather than intended for warmth.

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A few more...what is this chap's name? I believe he's from England, does anyone know where in England he's from?

thats the Welshman who with his wife come over to PiP every year for their Holiday....picked on me quite a bit....i just kept callin him that Welsh Bastard...i believe he even a PuB member.....he does have damn fine beer tho...great guy all said

The lad's name is Gareth Pugh. He's an ex Royal Artillery Lt. Col., and a Welchman indeed. Great guy, and I used him as the narrator for the Tryal of Bonny and Read. He and his Wife Elizabeth are regulars at PiP.

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Yeah, those new-world struck cobs are valued by weight, so they clipped off corners if there was too much. Also the production itself was fairly primitive.

Aye, the heavy coin making presses were not available in the New World at the time. Coins produced in European mints were quite well made, similar to modern quality. In the New World, however, coins were sliced off of cast ingots of approximate diameter with hammer and chisel. The slices were then flattened on an anvil, and weighed. Bits were nipped off the edges to bring them to proper weight, and then the slices were struck between a set of dies to stamp them with the proper front and back designs. Pretty primitive production methods, which resulted in varying quality coins, but all were Legal Tender. The coins were known as "cobs", hence the term "rough as a cob". They were made in several denominations.

The "milled", or "reeded" edges of coins made in regular mints were originally done to make it apparent if clipping or shaving of the coins had been done by dishonest people.

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Who is this? (It's from M.A. d'Dogges collection.)

i have NO IDEA.....stumbled on them in the fort...thought they would take a nice photo....she seemed more than a tad bit learry of me...

oi...Casky...could ya get word back to these Folk...so they could get accsess to there pics?

Unfortunately, I don't have current contact info on them.

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Who is this? (It's from M.A. d'Dogges collection.)

Her name is Celeste. I met her and her new husband about 5 years ago at PiP. It was their first time attending. He is with one of the airlines. They then moved to another part of the country, and have not made it back to PiP since then. They are now based in Florida, and expect to be regular attendees from now on. Nice folks !!!!