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My next post, heavily preceded by disclaimers and apologies to anyone who might take offense at my having read information from a non-sancitoned source, was to be a reference to sumptuary laws and pirates, from a Web site called Elizabethan Era:

Pirate Clothing - Flouting the Elizabethan Sumptuary Laws!

Elizabethan Sumptuary Laws dictated what color of clothing and the materials and fabrics which could be  used for each social level. The Elizabethan Sumptuary Laws therefore enforced what clothing individuals were allowed to own and wear, an easy and immediate way to identify rank and privilege. Pirate clothing, especially that of the successful and wealthy pirates took great delight in flouting the Elizabethan Sumptuary Laws! Anything went - fine velvets and silks and such fabrics which had been previously banned to anyone other than those in the Upper Classes.

Pirate Clothing - The Motley Crew

The fabrics used in pirate clothing depended on how wealthy they were and what clothing had been stolen! Pirate clothing for the ordinary seamen was therefore often ill-fitting! Motley was a multi-colored woollen fabric woven of mixed threads in 14th to 17th century England. The clothes of pirate seamen were mismatched with multi-colors - hence the expression 'Motley Crew'.Many of the tasks performed by the pirates were extremely arduous - clothing could be easily ripped, tattered and torn. The pirate clothing for ordinary seamen, by necessity was tight fitting. Loose fighting clothes would be dangerous when performing tasks like climbing the rigging. The clothing of the captain or pirate clothing worn on land did not need to follow such requirements.   

Pirate Clothing - the Fabrics and Materials

The fabrics used in pirate clothing depended on how wealthy they were and what clothing had been stolen! But basically there were no rules! The practical fabrics used for ordinary pirate clothing included canvass, leather, wool, linen, cotton and sheepskin. The fabrics and materials used in pirate clothing when on shore, or by the Pirate Captain, were far more flamboyant and expensive. Velvet, silk, damask, sarcanet, camlet and taffeta were included in the fabrics and materials used for this type of pirate clothing - exotic feathers were also favored! 

Pirate Clothing - Colors

The colors of pirate clothing included the colors which had previously banned by the Elizabethan Sumptuary Laws. Crimson, violet, purple and  deep blue were typical of the colors which had previously banned for anyone other than the Upper Classes!

... which actually corroborates the information given already by Kass, Foxe, GoF and others, about the Captain's clothing versus the ordinary seaman's, but I hadn't gotten that far.

Wellll, I wasn't really using one quote to deny your intellect, education, experience and abilities. I sure hope you're not doing to same to mine.

In my attempt to make up for whatever historical ignorance Americans like myself are guilty of, I've been doing some reading (imagine, an American reading a book!), and came across that "drivel." Now, I didn't know a the time it was drivel, thinking instead it was somewhere between the Divine Word of God and an Archies comic book, but since it seemed to be reasonably researched and reviews of it didn't call it total crap, I thought I'd give it a go.

I supose I should have posted a quick, "This is an interesting quote, will post more questions and observations when my hands recouperate from typing the whole thing out," but I didn't. So, there it is, aparently, a quote from a piece of shite book taken as an attack on Kass, and casting doubt on my own intellectual abilities. When will I ever learn?

David Cordingly, Under the Black Flag:

... Above all, [pirates] were distinguished by their clothes. In the early years of the eighteenth century most landsmen wore long coats and long waistcoats over knee breeches and stockings. Seamen on the other hand wore short blue jackets, over a checked shirt, and either long canvas trousers or baggy "petticoat breeches," which somewhat resembled culottes. In addition, they frequently wore red waistcoats, and tied a scarf or handkerchief loosely around the neck.(20)

Most pirates wore variations of this traditional costume, which was hard-wearing and practical, though some wore more exotic clothes stolen from captured ships or made from the silks and velvets which they plundered. Kit Oloard dressed "in black velvet trousers and jacket, crimson silk socks, black felt hat, brown beard and shirt collar embroidered in black silk." (21) John Stow noted that two pirates facing execution in 1615 gave away their fancy clothes, inluding breeches of crimson taffeta, velvet doublets with gold buttons, and velvet shirts with gold lace. Pirate captains seem to have adopted the clothes of navel officers or merchant captains, which at this period followed the style of English gentlemen. When he fought his last sea battle in 1722, the pirate captain Bartholomew Roberts was, according to Captain Johnson, "dressed in a rich crimson damask waistcoat, and breeches, a red feather in his hat, a gold chian round his neck, with a diamond cross hanging to it." (22)

20. For further details of seamen's clothes, see Rodger, [N. A. M. The Wooden World: An Anatomy of the Georgian Navy (London, 1986)] pp. 64-65; Rediker, [Marcus. Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea: Merchant Seamen, Pirates, and the Anglo-American Maritime World (Cambridge and New York, 1987)], p. 11; Ritchie, [Robert C. Captain Kidd and the War Againsts the Pirates (Cambridge, Mass. and London, 1986], p. 114; Dudley Jarret, British Naval Dress (London, 1960); Commander W. E. May, The Dress of Naval Officers (London, 1966).

21. Senior, [Clive. A Nation of Pirates: English Piracy in Its Heyday (Newton Abbot, London, and New York, 1976)] p. 37

22. Johnson [Captain Charles. A General History of the Robberies and Murders of the Most Notorious Pyrates, (London, 1724). There are many editions of this book. [Cordingly has] used the comprehensive edition edited by Manuel Schonhorn. This is entitled A General History of the Pyrates, and its author is given as Daniel Defoe. It was published in London in 1972 and has extensive notes on the text.], p. 243

I'm planning on being there, stationwagon permitting. Where does one get a list of area oubs going along with the piratical theme?

NoQuarterGiven.net

I have as many tattoos as I have fingers.

Whether that means a certain number of tats or less than the usual number of fingers, I'm leavin' to the imagination...

Eleven tattoos! I'm impressed!

I've broken the same toe three times.

I have friends who told me they felt relief when their parents finally decided on divorce. I have friends who stayed together "for the sake of the kids" only to find out when their kids were grown that they'd wished their parents would just divorce and get it over with.

Point is, I don't think we can predict how our kids will feel, and as long as we let them know they are free to come and talk about how they feel, we have to take their reations at face value. As long as both parents are on the look out for "acting out" behavior for attention, I'd just trust your children to roll with the situation as it occurs. Keep checking in with them to see how they're doing, make sure they know you're there for them and will put them first. Kids are resilient and resourceful, and since you and their mom seem to be good parents, they'll get what they need to get through this.

Moya (Farscape) 100%

Babylon 5 (Babylon 5) 100%

Serenity (Firefly) 94%

Deep Space Nine (Star Trek) 88%

Millennium Falcon (Star Wars) 88%

Nebuchadnezzar (The Matrix) 88%

FBI's X-Files Division (The X-Files) 75%

Galactica (Battlestar: Galactica) 63%

Bebop (Cowboy Bebop) 63%

Enterprise D (Star Trek) 56%

SG-1 (Stargate) 50%

Andromeda Ascendant (Andromeda) 38%

Interesting, since I made myself an alien once, after watching Farscape. I think I was a sea mammal of some kind in a former (or parallel) life.

That's not my cat.

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knock it off, i want to read it in english...

But, Rue, if we wrote in English, you'd find all the cuss words and edit them out!

If the flux capacitor isn't online by next week, me and Joshua are just going to have dig up the graves of some pirates and check for the footware. If they're not wearing boots OR shoes, then we'll know that Pirates Were Barefoot.

When dead and buried, at least.

Or rather, when buried, because they might have been buried alive.

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Well that all seems a little antagonistic!

Re-enactment is just that, the re-creation of a slice of the past. Just because re-enactors don't actually sack cities and rape our victims doesn't mean we can't re-enact sacking places.

Okay, that's the way I feel when someone makes fun of my lack of authenticity. I'm trying to get a thicker skin, yes, but at least it's good to know that even someone with your experience and knowledge can have the same reaction.

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Odd, I used the same URL at work, and at home. Works fine in the office, but the code is all messed up on the PC at home. I'll try it again tonight. Thanks all, for your help.

Can I come? Pleeeease? :angry:

Well, okay, but just you, cuz it's the Delorean model, two-seater.

I'm just waiting on a parts order for my flux capacitor, then I'll just go back and settle this once and for all.

I own eleven pairs of Doc Marten maryjanes.