Korisios

Ok I am not used (jet) to narrowing one's impression down to 30 years. Doing iron age reenactment as my core thing, I am allready happy if I can stay within a 100 years range... Ho much years is going to make to big a difference? 40? 30? 20? Oh and have you seen the link I posted on the uniform colors thread?

I'f just got this site from a guy from the Early18thcenturyWars Yahoo group... Now who would like to translate all this?

Booth if that's possible...

The trimming on hats and uniforms for decoration and showing ones rank. Would it most likely be just yellow ribbon or would some kind of golden ribbons, lase or cords be used?

A simple question... Most (cocked) hats I see are black or something dark. Is this a mather of fasion, backed up by archeological, pictorial or written evidence? Or do we al think that dark collored hats are cooler then white, beighe or pink ones...

Just found this couple of tailors on the net.. (an turn of the volume of your computer, because the music on this site drives you nuts ) Down below the men's clothing page is a frock coat 1730-1750 made from cotton damask... I'm going to ask if it is real cotton (no wool) and if he has any reverence...

Yes the uniform is based on the 1738 Spanish Marine uniform. There is a mural in a museum in Mexico City showing a scene from 1740 and there are numerous examples in it of this uniform. For the field, white gaiters were added. Thanks Joe! Could you give anymore info on Spanish uniforms of that period? Or do you happen to know books about the subject or other knowledgable people..? I also had to look up the therm "gaiters"and found this... I thoughd I post it here, sinds patterns are allways usefull...

What do you think of their clothing? Does it look period? To me it's looks as if the whole bats of cloths has been made in one run, and maybe with a not so period material?

My translation would be: "Philip IV, by a decree of 10 September, 1634, created the "purple regiment. "The Purple regiment was a royal guard distinguished by its purple uniform, whose flag displayed the arms of the Count-Duke of Olivares. With that name, it was incorporated in the new army of the king Philip IV in the year 1700. "On 28 February, 1707, it adopted the name of "Regiment of Castilian Infantry," and still later it was named "King's Regiment" with the honor of Immemorial ["Immortal in memory" might give you an idea of the sentiment here]. "In reality, its color wasn't really purple according to the modern concept of dark violet, next to blue, but garnet red like mulberry juice." Thanks Daniel! That translation is better then mine...

Yes those are the guys... Let me try to translate (from Spanish to Dutch, from Dutch to English ) At 10 sept. 1634 by a decree, Felipe IV created the third, purple regiment. This regiment at first was a Royal Guard with purple uniforms that caried a flag with the emblems of Count-Duke of Olivares. As such it joined the army of King Felip V in 1700 and caried the name "Kings Regiment". In 28/02/1707 it changed to "Castilla Infantry Regiment" with the qualification of Immemorial(?) And then the story says something (I don't realy understand) about the collor not being real (royal?/the Kings?)purple but more something like blackberry juice...???

St. Augustine's? Can you direct me to their site or something? Unfortunatly my documentation is next to nothing right now ... ...other then two small booklets with Spanish uniforms from the rev. wars., a very limited confersation with a Spanish guy from the "Tercio de Morados Viejos"one of these purple guys... and some other spanish blogs, sites and forums on wich I have written but up to now had no respond... Then there's this site and drawing that has inspired me... My interrest comes actualy from the side of the Guatemala original inhabitants and there traditional dress, my aim is to get a mixed outfit of colonial Spanish military end local Maya dress (traje) from the more or less 1700 period.

Thanks for the answers guys, I am thinking of making a Spanish officers militairy frock coat 1700. Sinds it's an officers coat I can get away with maybe some (silk) interlining and some other fancy aditions..? I am still thinking about what to use for the outside fabric, right now I have lokated some (very) fine woven 100% wool cloth wich is a bit velvetted (vilted?)on the outside... Then I have seen stiffer linnens and some robuster cottons of the right collor especialy the cotton has a nice faded look allready that I like. Would (military) frock coats have extra material sandwiched into the inner en outer fabric's on locations where buttons and their holes are? I think I need to start make a drawing of what I am thinking about...

What strikes me, is the stifness of the material, I have been looking at the picture of the frock coat of the "reconstructinghistory" site: Figuring that was the look to go fore... Then again I also just bought the Buccaneers and Pirates book of osprey wandering if the giant coats shown there are just the way Angus paints (I have other books with paintings from him that show's men a we bit more massif than that they would have been in real...) or that there's a truth in there... Then offcourse it all depents on the material used... I haved been looking at wool, linnen or cotton (for a upper class soldier) figuring that a stiff cotton cloth would make such a garb look awkward... but then the antique dress shown here looks awkward to...

Here is a pease of a French map from 1656 from PoD. It shows: First circle (left) San Pedro Middle circle (oval) Triumpfo de la Cruz Right hand circle the river Xagua. Lower dubble lined word that reads Guatimala upper dubble lined word Vera Pax (this part of Guatamala they still call Vera Pax) Single lined word reads Rio Dulce... Isn't it cool?

I mean the cotton they grow on a plant like in central america... Before the spanish came to America the locals made cloth out of it, allready for many years...

Would cotton be okay for an officers frock coat? with maybe a fine linnen lining??

Thanks Jas. Hook, I just went looking for the word leagues and it moslty descibed as a 1 hour walk also considering the circumstanses, so the river Xegua is a 10 hour walk throu difficult terain towards Triumpho de la Cruz... Now I actualy found Xegua and Triumpho de la Cruz on a map that PoD showed me... Il see if i can manage to show it here somewhere and show some more points of interrest on this map...

Thanks Mission for the input and the links, First the chapters in my book don't mach with the english bucaneers book so let's not worry about that. My qlue for situating this Lolonois story near Guatemala is the mentioning of the Gulf of Hunduras... Wich is in my opinion not near to Venezuela ... Then the story indeed mentioned San Pedro and I just found thanks to your link a San Pedro in honduras not far from the Guatemala border. and also near a river of wich i can't find the name... Indeed they did not actualy go to Guatemala but only thought about going... Now if i only could find the Xagua river