Desert Pyrate Posted July 15, 2004 Author Share Posted July 15, 2004 Probably Dacron. And a word on the cotton... it's liable to rot if you're storing it for long stretches. Regarding the epoxy: we're taping the seams with 4" tape (had to get it from TAP plastics, a specialty plastic and fiberglass store). Then we're using either 50" or 60" cloth across the bottom (I don't remember which). That'll take care of below the waterline. Above the waterline will be a thin sheet of oak covering the plywood. This is for a couple of reasons. The first is to avoid the cost of extra 'glass. The second is for aesthetics; it'll look a lot better. We'll be coating it with varathane (clear coating) to make it waterproof for when the boat is heeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalesOfTheSevenSeas Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 So what have you decided to name yer boat? Looks good mate! -Claire "Poison Quill" Warren Pyrate Mum of Tales of the Seven Seas www.talesofthesevenseas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Pyrate Posted July 15, 2004 Author Share Posted July 15, 2004 I don't have a name for her yet. Anyone got any thoughts? One of my thoughts is "peridinos", Greek for "circling around", and also a euphemism for pirate, rogue, or corsair. From Plato's Laws: "not to speak of the crimes of all sorts committed by the “Corsairs,” as they are called, who haunt the coasts of Italy, and the reprisals therefor." (and for anyone interested... "hosa kaka sumbainei, kai eti ta tôn legomenôn peridinôn tôn peri tên Italian gignomenôn pantodapa klôpôn erga te kai pathêmata.") I'm thinking about writing a paper on the role of pirates in classic literature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
privateer Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 well done mate. peridinos sounds like a fine name. always go with what you like and has a bit of personal meaning behind it. glad to hear it's come'n along so smooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Pyrate Posted July 20, 2004 Author Share Posted July 20, 2004 update today: our ship's wheel arrived... solid teak with a brass core! And only $25! The bottom is also on the boat.... we're fiberglassing the seams now. Pictures when I get a chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Pyrate Posted July 20, 2004 Author Share Posted July 20, 2004 Link to the Cannon I'm considering Thought I'd post this. Once she's built, I'll start saving fer armaments. This'll be first on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redd Oktober Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 *with congo beat* "Pictures...pictures...piiiictures!" "Pictures...pictures...piiiictures!" YARRR! The Oktober be silent now! Just call me "REDD!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Pyrate Posted July 20, 2004 Author Share Posted July 20, 2004 *joins in the conga line... then realizes that he can do somethin' about it* Pictures tonight, hopefully! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully MacGraw Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Great link to the cannon site! Thanks Ed Those destined to hang, shall not fear drowning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Jack Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Aye, that cannon site be a great one fer shore. Thankee, DP! Blimey, but that wee barky sounds to be shaping up nicely! *also joins in conga line* Iron Jack: Scourge 'o the Shores! Some mornings, it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps. - Emo Phillips Damfino! Buccaneers Ball Info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorg Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Is it the "daYDREAM" yr looking at from duckworks mate? Im in the midst of buildin "vestper" A Michalac Capri....... We should commisserate. In the mist of this, Duncan Is in the middle if a Juryrig canoe catamaran oh, we be all at sea! :) Drop a kitten six feet, and she grins... Drop an elephant six feet, and ya gots yerself a mess ta clean up.... Sometimes bein' the biggest and most powerful is the LAST thing you wanna be..... Mad Ozymandias Zorg the Unsnottered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Pyrate Posted July 21, 2004 Author Share Posted July 21, 2004 Nope, this be a Michalak Vector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Pyrate Posted July 21, 2004 Author Share Posted July 21, 2004 Alright all o' ye... pictures! The wheel. The boat... as it stood about a half-hour ago. Detail of the seam glassing. The bottom o' the boat. It's held on by steel wire at the moment, soon to be held on by fiberglass. I've got more if ye want em. Email me or PM me, or just post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redd Oktober Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Mmmmm....looking good matey! You and yer father should be proud! YARRR! The Oktober be silent now! Just call me "REDD!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Jack Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Looks like she's almost ready to put to sea! Time to have a hull flippin' party! Really, she is lookin' very nice! If'n I heard ya right, you said that you were gonna glass the hull to the waterline? Do you lay the glass directly over the ply? And does that work OK with wood movin' like wood and plastic movin' like plastic 'n all? Sorry 'bout all the questions, but never been involved in buildin' a boat meeself, if'n ye can tell. Just curious. Where'd ya score the wheel fer $25? She be a nice one fer shor! Iron Jack: Scourge 'o the Shores! Some mornings, it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps. - Emo Phillips Damfino! Buccaneers Ball Info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Pyrate Posted July 23, 2004 Author Share Posted July 23, 2004 Jack, there be miles t' go before we sail her. Yeah, the hull's going to be glassed... it goes on right over the wood. It works because the wood no longer moves like wood... it's bonded to the glass. So it acts just like a fiberglass boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Jack Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Thankee, DP. I see now. The wood is sort of an imbedded substrate, eh? (My experience is all from installing Avonite and Fountainhead countertops. Different sitch there since kitchens generally don't actually go in the water. Plus the materials be much thicker). Do ye have to seal the backside with anything special? As concerns that hull-flippin' party: I know ye have a long way to go still, but you could still invite a few pirate buddies over, flip over the hull, have a few rounds, flip over the hull again, have a few more rounds, flip over the . . . I'm sure ye get the idea. Ahh. The beauty of small boats. Any excuse to soak a gill or two! Anyhow, she be lookin' smart as paint lad! Iron Jack: Scourge 'o the Shores! Some mornings, it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps. - Emo Phillips Damfino! Buccaneers Ball Info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Royaliste Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 DP...If'n ye plan on usin' an outboard on her, I met a fella last nite with three classic 'British Seagull' outboards, one the size for a lil one (2-3 hp)...really kewl, now he only has two, an' I have one!..If interested, he's gonna be gone for a week or two, but they'll go fast.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Pyrate Posted July 23, 2004 Author Share Posted July 23, 2004 How much be the motors? We're planning on a trolling motor chopped in half and mounted on the bottom of the boat. Sort of an inboard dealie. Big enough rudder so that it should still maneuver under power from the troller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Jack Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Ahoy, Gary! About them motors: 2 hp ye sez? I might actually be interested in one 'o them little motors meeself fer me little inflatable (then I wouldn't have to listen to R-H Jill yell at me fer rowing like a dang cracker all the time - Overhead fashion like Ned Beatty in Deliverance Really pisses 'er off fer some reason). I have plans to build a small transom and rudder post for 'er (me boat, that is, not R-H Jill) and she already has the grommets fer a motor. So if'n he 'as a couple left, I might be pickin' one up too since the new ones are quite pricey. How much does 'e want fer 'em? Thankee, IJ Iron Jack: Scourge 'o the Shores! Some mornings, it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps. - Emo Phillips Damfino! Buccaneers Ball Info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Royaliste Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 A decent Seagull be quite a collector's item, 'specially this side 'o the pond!..He's at 400 for the longshaft 4, and I think 275 for the 2.5.....they be incredible!..The one I've got is only runnin' on the choke today, figure the mainjet's plugged from sittin', they be really simple engines with ton's of history..........do a websearch under 'British Seagull' a 2.5 hp Seagull........... Originally built for Brit Marines to 'throw away', they've survived to become quite legendary;, three days underwater, a 10 minute cleanout, and the tend to fire right up....1/10 mix ratio!!..small slide carb, no gaskets in it!!..leaks a little, by manufacture....no seals to go out in the tranny, just really thick oil.........a favorite small boat engine in the Carribean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Jack Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 "The best outboard motor FOR the world" I luv it! Leave it to them Brits! That 275 sounds like it may just be the ticket fer me little inflatable. I don't think 2.5 horses be too much overkill fer me little boat either (Manuel recommends 2, so we not be too far off). I used to be a mechanic fer Jaguar, Rover, Triumph in a past life and still own me 1960 Bugeye that I assembled from two "bad ones" back in college, so I'm quite familiar with them whacky British machines! Probably be right at 'ome with it! Although there be NO excuse fer side-mounted, canister-type oil filters in me 'umble opinion. That price seems good too since most of the new small gas outboards 'n electrics I've looked at go fer quite a bit more. Let me know when the bloke's back in town and I'll drop 'im a line. Thankee, IJ Iron Jack: Scourge 'o the Shores! Some mornings, it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps. - Emo Phillips Damfino! Buccaneers Ball Info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Handed Jill Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Ahoy, Gary!About them motors: 2 hp ye sez? I might actually be interested in one 'o them little motors meeself fer me little inflatable (then I wouldn't have to listen to R-H Jill yell at me fer rowing like a dang cracker all the time - Overhead fashion like Ned Beatty in Deliverance Really pisses 'er off fer some reason). I have plans to build a small transom and rudder post for 'er (me boat, that is, not R-H Jill) and she already has the grommets fer a motor. So if'n he 'as a couple left, I might be pickin' one up too since the new ones are quite pricey. How much does 'e want fer 'em? Thankee, IJ It's not the manner of the rowing, it's that it is done when I am already rowing in a straight line and rowing with that third oar throws it off like you wouldn't believe. The single oar method is great for one person in a really small boat, moving along with a current - three oars in an inflatable when one person is already rowing is one oar too many. This is an on-going argument for us. We've been looking at other types of boats, so someday maybe we'll get the proper type of boat for "cracker" style rowing. But one of those small outboards for our two-person boat would be way cool, to use the vernacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Jack Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 DP, thought you'd like this. Catboat Iron Jack: Scourge 'o the Shores! Some mornings, it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps. - Emo Phillips Damfino! Buccaneers Ball Info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Pyrate Posted August 2, 2004 Author Share Posted August 2, 2004 update: we've decided to scuttle the motor idea and the wheel idea. The wheel is deep-sixed permanently, the motor for the rest of the season. The centerboard case is installed, and interior fiberglassing is nearly fully completed. Also... today a friend invited me sailing on his 11' sailboat. So I went, and got the basics of small boat sailing, including about a half-hour of singlehanded time on a shallow, gusty slough with plenty of people watching and a concrete wall on the lee shore. Luckily, I didn't sink, flood or tip the boat, and everything went just fine. Pictures of the sailing and the construction are forthcoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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