the Royaliste Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Just an update on this historical reenactment, but since it'll take a lot of doing to come off, Methinks a thread for discussion be in order......... Re: The Bougainville Voyage, June 2005, and 'Royaliste' Thank you for your timely note. I am meeting with the Lake Champlain basin Program office in Vermont in several weeks to discuss the inclusion of The Bougainville Voyage in their 2005 Workplan. If accepted, this would allow application for funding to allow partial support for participating US vessels, which naturally could include 'Royaliste'. We also have an application going in to the National Geographic Society and several filmmakers have expressed interest in doing a documentary of the voyage which would also allow gathering of F&I War stock footage. Certainly 'Royaliste', if present, would immediately become Flagship for the week-long event and the Flotilla would center on her. Please do give possible participation a real look, Gary; interest is so strong in this event that I feel your investment in time and travel would be well rewarded---and it would be fun. Yours aye Vic Suthren Event Organizer The Bougainville Voyage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Royaliste Posted May 11, 2004 Author Share Posted May 11, 2004 Whew!!..Been tryin' to put up a picture of one 'o the longboats that'll be doin' the voyage....finally!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully MacGraw Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Hi Gary Does the Bougainville 2005 have a web site. I would be interested in hauling out my long boat. Ed Those destined to hang, shall not fear drowning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Royaliste Posted May 12, 2004 Author Share Posted May 12, 2004 The HM Bark Endeavour Foundation and The Stewart Museum at the Fort, Montreal, in support of the Lake Champlain Basin Program, invite qualified participants to take part in... The Bougainville Voyage A passage of Lake Champlain in traditional 18th Century small craft under sail and oar June 2005 The 'Witch Of Amherstburg' owned by Peter Rindlischbacher, and based in Amherstburg, Ontario, across from Detroit, Michigan. The 'Witch' is a 27-foot wood/metal lifeboat conversion and rows eight oars plus a steersman, and is fitted with a hidden auxiliary engine for safety purposes. It has various sailing rigs, including the Great Lakes 1800 rig (shown) and a 1758 open-ocean lugsail rig. A swivel gun can be carried on a bow strongback post, or it can be fitted with a 3-pounder truck gun on sliding rails. For the June 2005 Bougainville Voyage the mizzenmast will be replaced with an ensign staff to carry 18th Century colors. Photo has been digitally enhanced to show rig changes. The Bougainville Voyage: Summer 2005 An historical voyage for 18th Century longboats in the Summer of 2005 under oar and sail from Isle-aux-Noix National Historic Site in Canada to Ticonderoga (Carillon), New York, reflecting aspects of the career of French Seven Years' War officer Louis-Antoine de Bougainville. Bougainville, later a celebrated Pacific navigator, commanded the French garrison at Isle-aux-Noix, and served at Carillon during the defeat of Abercromby in 1758. The longboat flotilla is meant to represent a French reinforcing force voyaging to Carillon. Crews will be required to be in correct dress of 1758, and the flotilla hopes to secure the escort of the replica 18th Century French Bomb Ketch "Royaliste". Over the one-week period of the voyage the flotilla will stop at key points on the lake and present demonstrations and presentations meant to draw attention to the 18th Century historical heritage of the lake and its ongoing environmental fragility. Arrival at Carillon/Ticonderoga will be timed to occur during the Grand Encampment of the French and Indian War presented there, and all crews will be required to be in correct dress of 1758. Intended stops for the flotilla are now seen as Isle-aux-Noix (departure); Isle La Motte (Fort Ste. Anne); Plattsburgh; Valcour Island; Burlington/Shelburne, Vermont; Essex or Westport, New York; Basin Harbor, Vermont; Crown Point, New York; and Fort Ticonderoga (arrival). Contact: Victor Suthren, HM Bark Endeavour Foundation Event Organizer, The Bougainville Voyage 2581 Flannery Drive Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1V 8M4 Tel: 613 730-3243; Fax 613 730-2224; e-mail: suthren@magma.ca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Pyrate Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Cap'n.... I can most likely join ye as crew, even given the most-likely strict costuming requirements. There's lots o' time to get something together. Let me know what needs to be done to pull it off... I've got lots o' experience putting things together on almost no money. Right now I'm on the finance committee for our Search and Rescue team, and it's surprising how much money is out there for just about anybody. I'm willing to give as much time and effort as I can to make this happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Royaliste Posted May 12, 2004 Author Share Posted May 12, 2004 Well quite frankly, it's about trying to put together at least 30K+, and doing it with enough lead time to book transportation and cranes, boatyards, etc......Workin' on some kind of 'non-profit' status to allow donations or sponsorship, but beyond that, I'm clueless, a grants and such aren't in my field of expertise.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Pyrate Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 We need to start thinking of corporations/individuals who might be sympathetic to history, ships, travel, outdoors, etc. I've been thinking, but nothing yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Royaliste Posted May 12, 2004 Author Share Posted May 12, 2004 Well, once upon a time I thought about doing it like a circumnavigation, chargin' the crew for each leg, and doin' it on Her hull, but......after scrutinizin' my crew, looks like between 'em all, I'd only come up with $38.50!! ........an' if'n I advertized for them wot had the frogskins for such an adventure, they wouldn't be 'my crew'!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Pyrate Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Aye, Cap'n... we're long on time to give, but short on $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connecticut Ben Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Truly a once in a lifetime opportunity! One thing that might work would be for crew members to get "sponsors," kind of like the old jog-, walk-, and read-a-thons- friends, relatives, business associates, etc. pledge a certain amount. With Tales of the 7 Seas being a non-profit, donations would be tax deductible. Royaliste could have a "sponsor program" or souvenir booklet printed, in which all sponsors would be listed, and it would contain information and pictures of the Royaliste, the voyage, and the crew. You could also "sell" advertising space in such a program. Then the booklets themselves could be sold along the way! Just a few quick ideas in an early mornin, eh? AARRR! Ol' Ben wants t' see this one 'appen! Cheers, CT Ben "Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing -- absolutely nothing -- half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." Kenneth Grahame Wind in the Willows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Pyrate Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 That's a great idea! I had emailed the Cap'n earlier about talking to smaller companies, especially ones that specialize in history or sailing. They tend to be more generous and faster to give, unlike big corporations that can take over a year to get around to it. Also, I think we should talk to some CEOs personally, who might have an interest. I think individuals are our best choice. About the souvenir books... if we wanted to do it, we have enough graphically minded people to pull it off really nicely. I'm really excited about this trip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Hearted Pearl Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 Let me see if I understand this, Tales of the Seven Seas already has non-profit status? Is Royaliste a member of Tales of the Seven Seas? Can there be a special fund for the sponsorship or "scholarship" for the Royaliste to attend the Bougainvilla Voyage 2005 to contribute to? Just thinking out loud. ~Black Hearted Pearl The optimist expects the wind. The pessimist complains about the wind. The realist adjusts the sails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Royaliste Posted May 13, 2004 Author Share Posted May 13, 2004 Well, it be sorta like this; Yup, ' Tales' be non-profit, and thar might be a way to 'lease' the ship for purposes, but the bottom line looks like She'll be needin' Her own such status in the future to seek restoration funding, etc..........but yes, it surely be possible now.. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Hearted Pearl Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 Well then Matey, Tell a sailor how one might be a contributing to this noble charitible cause. ~Black Hearted Pearl The optimist expects the wind. The pessimist complains about the wind. The realist adjusts the sails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Royaliste Posted June 4, 2004 Author Share Posted June 4, 2004 Just got a dispatch concerning the possible availability of 20K towards making this happen...that be most likely halfway there!!....So, looks like I may commit to this in ink soon!! .....Run out the sweeps, men! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Pyrate Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 Aye, this be mighty excitin'... so should all o' th' crewin' pirates start their lookin' fer accurate period clothin' items? Speakin' o' sweeps... we should give those a try sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Royaliste Posted June 4, 2004 Author Share Posted June 4, 2004 Actually, if this comes off like it be lookin', I'll be huntin' deckhands attire...I'll turn the command over to Capt. Fairhead, he knows the waters far better 'n I...........But watch out, I be one mean assed bos'n! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Pyrate Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 Whas' the difference? Yer one mean-assed cap'n, too! Another crew wouldn't want t' deal with the yellin', but we're all mighty used to a long string of obscenities and nautical terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slopmaker Cripps Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 Let me know if you're going to Bougainville.......... Gives me time to cancel my trip up there......... And BTW, you do know it's invitation only....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Royaliste Posted July 11, 2004 Author Share Posted July 11, 2004 The event was cancelled at this point . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PYRATE Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 Aye!.. Stay in Fla., sit on the beach, and rant at the other tourists such as ye'reself!! Yes, it was by invitation, and we were invited, you???..'o course, you were walking, weren't you? Nothin' non-period like an airplane in your life, eh? Stand Down, and ye may just live... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slopmaker Cripps Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 Who'd you hear it was canceled from? I heard it was still going on 2 weeks ago....... As to being a tourist, you are no further form the truth. I was born and lived my whole life here....... As for walking I don't need to. I can either drive (yeah, that's right, even people who try and educate the public through doing an accurate portrayal drive cars that involve combustion) or I can take my boat up. Yes, I was invited to go along with some friends of mine in SC. I don't see why you get on my case for trying to do things right......it teaches the public what hollywood never will...........and you won't either..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Pyrate Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 What's yer boat like? I read on your crew's website that you still have some fiberglass work to do... and nothing says period like fiberglass boats! ...that said, I've got some glass work to do on my own boat (onna other hand, it's not a period boat...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Royaliste Posted July 11, 2004 Author Share Posted July 11, 2004 Who'd you hear it was canceled from? I heard it was still going on 2 weeks ago.......As to being a tourist, you are no further form the truth. I was born and lived my whole life here....... As for walking I don't need to. I can either drive (yeah, that's right, even people who try and educate the public through doing an accurate portrayal drive cars that involve combustion) or I can take my boat up. Yes, I was invited to go along with some friends of mine in SC. I don't see why you get on my case for trying to do things right......it teaches the public what hollywood never will...........and you won't either..... I'm not on your case for doing things right, we're all for that..With that said, it seemed your post after Desert Pirate inuendoe'd a lot, and if'n I mistook your inuendo, my mistake, and your lack of clarification.I made an assumption that if the 19 year old kid was gonna crew my ship when she appeared AGAIN in Lake Champlain, you'd stay out of the region...I appologise.. We are always in it for fun first, to 'eck with the rest. As far as 'teachin', we reach an awful lot 'o folks 'ereabouts, no complaints yet. As far as information on Bougainville 2005, mine came from Vic Suthren.As the proposed 'centerpiece', I'm sure he'll call when something else pops on the project...Desert Pirate is operating on very current information, and wasn't lookin' for grief, he be just a youth. I've done my parley. Royaliste on Lake Champlain, 1997 And here's my last 'public' email from Vic....... To All Who Have Expressed Interest In The Bougainville Voyage To all those individuals and organizations who have expressed interest in possible participation in the proposed 'Bougainville Voyage' on Lake Champlain in June of 2005, I am writing with great regret to say that, after due consideration of the changing realities which are now involved, I will not be developing the idea of the Voyage further, nor continue work to design, administer or find support for the voyage. It is hoped that the many interested individuals with an interest in colonial maritime history, the history and ecology of Lake Champlain, and commemorating the events of the French and Indian War will nonetheless explore other means of expressing those interests. Their interest in the Bougainville Voyage concept was deeply appreciated. Yours sincerely Victor Suthren Ottawa, Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
privateer Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 sorry to hear of the cancelation captn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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