Salty Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 ok quick question to Kass or anyone who has used her patterns.............can ye use wool layerd with linen and another inner layer of linen? And are both bodices correct for 1720 ish? seems more folk make the one wit nae sleeves, any reason? Ye ship's potter, Salty Mud Slinging Pyromanic , Errrrrr Ship's Potter at ye service Vagabond's Rogue Potter Wench First Mate of the Fairge Iolaire Me weapons o choice be lots o mud, sharp pointy sticks, an string Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Alexander Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Saltypots, I'm looking at the pattern and the recommendation is "silk or fine linen for lining" and "5 oz linen for interlining". So, imho, the answer would be yes. I also believe both bodices are correcct for GAOP. There is nothing in the notes that says they aren't. I'm hoping to have enough time to make a set of each. Hope that helps some. Lily If you're gonna give me a headache, please bring me an aspirin! http://www.forttaylorpyrates.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 working on the paper pattern for to ensure a fit...........thanks lily. wee bit confused on how many pieces are needed out of the material though............shall work through it. ye ship's potter, Salty Mud Slinging Pyromanic , Errrrrr Ship's Potter at ye service Vagabond's Rogue Potter Wench First Mate of the Fairge Iolaire Me weapons o choice be lots o mud, sharp pointy sticks, an string Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Ok , i am sure this has been discoursed upon but i cannae find the links.......when making the bodice does one steam the reed to flatten it? and what to use for eyelets? Does one sew the eyelet holes like for buttons or can you use something to strengthen them? ye ship's potter, turned seamstress Salty Mud Slinging Pyromanic , Errrrrr Ship's Potter at ye service Vagabond's Rogue Potter Wench First Mate of the Fairge Iolaire Me weapons o choice be lots o mud, sharp pointy sticks, an string Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Mermaid Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 You can buy metal eyelet kits at sewing stores or even the Walmart. That way the holes are nice and strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Diamond Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Metal eyelets (grommets) for stays were not available GAoP ~ they were reinforced similarly to buttonholes, which is a time-consuming business. I have made many corsets before stays, and, while the metal grommets can provide a nice finish, they can also chew up your laces if improperly "installed". To that end ~ my best fitting trial stays were made of 2 layers cotton duck and a lightweight jacquard upholstery fabric, but I didn't have time to do anything other than awl the lacing holes. I wore the stays VERY TIGHTLY LACED for 6 days, all day and into the night, though eating, drinking, running, being thrown over MadDogges shoulder, and swordfighting. Neither the layered materials nor the 1/8" satin ribbon tore. I still haven't found time to reinforce the holes (perhaps before PiP? ). With that said, you can thread a very large-eyed needle (upholstery or leather) with a fine satin ribbon for fitting purposes (as I did). Works wonderfully, providing a very accurate view of your progress. Oooh, shiny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCholeBlack Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 You can buy metal eyelet kits at sewing stores or even the Walmart. That way the holes are nice and strong. What ever you do DO NOT use those metal grommets if you're aiming for something historic. They aren't invented until well after the 18th century. Quite frankly, I wouldn't bother with them if doing something fantasy either. They are garbage. A properly sewn eyelet hole does not break or cut the fibers of the fabric, so should you want to remove them there is no damage to the fabric. Those metal grommets have you actually cut to install them. Once they are in, you can't get rid of them. It's funny. I hear people being worried about hand bound eyelet holes "ripping out" etc but I've never seen anyone actually have that problem. Boning wearing through the binding, yes, eyelets tearing, nope. If you're seriously concerned I'd probably consider either lacing looser (there are even period writings against "tight lacing") or using an extra inner layer of sturdy fabric just along the eyelet hole section. For the reed, I soaked mine in hot water, stretched it out and let it dry again for several days. Then I rubbed it very (very!) lightly with bees wax. I've known others who soak it in water with glycerin mixed in to help prevent breakage. I've never broken a reed (**knock on wood**) but that might be more of a concern with the smaller diameter stuff. Good luck! "If part of the goods be plundered by a pirate the proprietor or shipmaster is not entitled to any contribution." An introduction to merchandize, Robert Hamilton, 1777Slightly Obsessed, an 18th Century reenacting blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Mermaid Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Quite frankly, I wouldn't bother with them if doing something fantasy either. They are garbage. Ok, my bad. Guess I'll stay out of this conversation. I didn't realize I had been making crap all this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbonie Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Quite frankly, I wouldn't bother with them if doing something fantasy either. They are garbage. Ok, my bad. Guess I'll stay out of this conversation. I didn't realize I had been making crap all this time. i hear you.i have been working on a piece of "garbage" for over 50 hours now. guess ill just throw it away when im done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silkie McDonough Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Chole wasn't saying that the bodice was garbage, she was saying that the grommets were garbage. I advise against the metal grommets also. I am surprised how well the sewn in ones are holding up. If you insist that you need the reinforcement on the hole I suggest a simple brass ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Mermaid Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 I'm sorry..I'm in some sort of mood today. I shouldn't have brought it with me to the pub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silkie McDonough Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Nay lass ...no need to apologize but you may like to vent in one of the other threads! works for me! Try "random thoughts" hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumba Rue Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 I've never ever had a problem with metal grommets, but then I take the time to do a buttonhole stitch around them with embroidery thread to cover them over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbonie Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 I've never ever had a problem with metal grommets, but then I take the time to do a buttonhole stitch around them with embroidery thread to cover them over. this is an idea i love and am going to try. even tho im working on a fantasy bodice,the bright goldish metal just clashes with the whole look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentleman of Fortune Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Ok.... lets change direction a bit and post some pictures of some nice bodices, stays, and or corsets. I'll start. This is from http://www.dazeoflaur.com/ next ? Come aboard my pirate re-enacting site http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/ Where you will find lots of information on building your authentic Pirate Impression! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 V&A "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCholeBlack Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 these have always been a favorite of mine there are tons more photos, including some really good close-ups here http://www.nwta.com/patterns/pics/ebaystay.../ebaystays.html Or these from Kass' site http://www.reconstructinghistory.com/image...aysfront216.jpg http://www.reconstructinghistory.com/image...taysback216.jpg "If part of the goods be plundered by a pirate the proprietor or shipmaster is not entitled to any contribution." An introduction to merchandize, Robert Hamilton, 1777Slightly Obsessed, an 18th Century reenacting blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Hand Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 I still can't get my Boss to wear stays...... jumps is the best I can do....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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