michaelsbagley

Wife and I rolled into home last night at about 1:00 AM. Had a blast. There are a lot of reasons why this is probably my favourite event! I too miss all of you, and wish these weekends could last longer! Pics to come!

Which is convenient, because it isn't "pressing" if they come to us willingly! Which just saves us all that effort and money.

Bump... Last day for these auction items! And it seems the generosity of HistoryFanatic continues on, as a new item was added some time in the last day or two!

I think you just did! Pretty much wanting to be in, and stating it gets you in... Welcome to the most laid back and best crew out there!

The changing roster from round to round is what makes the trading cards so much fun! Thanks for signing up! Just two more would make this round perfect!

Regarding Crews.... Uhm, the local organizing crew is pretty loosely organized and not at all formal... (Read this link for more info on that), and we have not yet had enough visiting participants of any one crew to really need to draw lines in the sand.... Despite there being only about 10 of us locals, and an average about about 30 participants at each of the last few events of this type. To date, this event has very much been a no formal crew event, and that seems to work best, and honestly, I hope that continues. So pretty much everyone that shows up, shows up as a marooner. So I think you'll fit in wonderfully! :angry: As for camping.... The wife just did a pretty thorough search in the area, and the below is what she came up with. Alton RV Park - This one is likely the closest to the ship, but only for RVs. This park is on the same major street that passes by the ship (Broad Street), but from the look of the map it would be about a half hour drive west of where the ship is in the middle of the city. Jackson Lake Park - Is about three or four miles from where we live (it is about a 20 to 25 minute drive to the ship from where we live). It is hard to tell from the web site, but it looks like this place offers both RV and tent camping. KOA Buckeye Lake - is the KOA Callenish was talking about. Buckeye lake is about a 45 minute drive east of where the ship is at. It might be the cheapest of the options, and likely the closest to the freeway, but the longest drive of the close options. Let me know if yo want more options. I will also add these camp sites to the "just the facts" thread for ease of future reference. (and maybe add them to the web site as well).

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The guidelines as quoted from Ransom back in the first or second round... This time we will be aiming for a "Lost" theme, or "Lost because of x weather" for the more ambitious. Please aim to have your cards ready and sent to me no later than March 26th so I can sort them and send them back at close to the end of March (some may bleed over to the first few days of April because of the sometimes slow postal service). So far we have the below list of volunteers (or voluntold in one case :angry: ) I'll be cat-herding, I mean organizing this round by popular vote (which means no one else wanted to ) 1. Patrick Hand 2. J8ksdad 3. Pew 4. Gunpowder Gertie 5. michaelsbagley 6. Ransom 7. Kate_Souris 8. Cross 9. Brig 10 Captain McCool And we finally have our tenth!!! Thanks everyone for joining in! Please aim for having them done and ready for March 26th, but since a few folks came in a bit later, we'll try and be flexible to up to a week if need be.

Okay, I have merged the topics now... I will "Pin" this topic as soon as I am done posting this, I hope those interested find some more oldies but goodies in here!

In a rather random effort of extreme generosity, a mysterious benefactor (History Fanatic of Taylor Rose Historical Outfitters) started THIS AUCTION to benefit the Santa Maria, with some awesome goodies! Most of these goodies are on a 7 day bid cycle, and it took me half a day to get this message... So time is short! Please re-post this and share this information with anyone and everyone that you think may be interested!

Hey guys, a very old thread of this very nature was pointed out to me yesterday... It is great to see some new and awesome sources being added! Would any of you mind if I merged this thread with the old one for the sake of ease of future reference? I can also "pin" the topic so it will remain towards the top of the list to make it easy to find going forward. If I don't hear any objections by tomorrow, I will merge the topics, if someone does have an objection, feel free to post it here or send it to me via private message. Thanks!

Damn!!! I hope this can be worked out... While I have only been involved for two years, PiP has become one of my favourite events. Thanks for the heads up mate, and here's to everything you have done in the past and hope the future can be preserved by some means!

Nah, you're not a leper.... You just chose a topic that people weren't ready to jump in on so quickly... The oft cited "Cut of Men's Clothes" by Norah Waugh has a pattern for some 1690s breeches (if memory serves me well, I have to go to the local library to look at that one). That pattern might be found on the net, but going to your library or buying the book would be more ideal (in my opinion). The pocket looks similar in style (from the painting) to the style of pocket used on waistcoats of the period, but one could only guess at it's construction. I think if you do a search on Twill for pockets (although it could be in the "Sewing Room" area of the pub as well), there has been a discussion about pockets on breeches (although I have this vague memory that the discussion was a tangent on a discussion of a different name). I believe Sterling and some others posted some really neat pictures of various pocket styles from period sources on breeches.... I will try and dig up that discussion and link it here if I have some free time in the next few days if no one can remember where that topic is/was (but I'm pretty good with the Pub search engine). I know this isn't much help, but at least I hope this lets you know the information is "out there" and that people aren't ignoring you, it's just more likely that those who have good memory of the posts here, and who are also strong with the search function just haven't had the chance to chime in yet.

That is really awesome information... And has now caused me to greatly rethink many of the information I had suspected with regards to shot boxes of the period. Might I ask what museum you work at? I think you have opened my eyes to a whole new scope of sources I need to get information from and read on!

Great work! Looking awesome! An artist and a fellow seamster! Man you got some mad talents...

To be honest Hawkyns, the only other place I have seen a shot container of that sort is from an "Osprey Military" book, and that drawing had it looking more like a shot bag/pouch than a box. I think some of the Blenheim tapestries have images of Grenadiers carrying a bag/pouch similar (going from memory here, so take that with a grain of salt). In fact the only image I have seen for the GAoP that contains a shot container that uses something like the drilled loading boxes (popular in F&IW and Rev-War) is a French drawing of a Marine (can't remember if that was early 18th century or very late 17th). My guess based on the fairly limited amount of available information is that the English were rather late in switching to the drilled blocks (by the late 1720s or more likely 1730s would be my guess). To be honest, those sketches are the first images of GAoP English Marines (not from Osprey books) that I have seen... And I am very tempted to buy the cited book to see what sources the artist used to come to the conclusions that spawned those pieces of art. I've done a fair bit of searching for primary sources on marines, and not had any luck... And I have yet to see any of the secondary or tertiary sources that have provided enough references to give me any sort of confidence in their historic validity. That would be my rather cynical seeming take on the matter.

The Whydah went down in 1717, and the box found there had a few more wooden slats. How those "extra" slats were arranged is a subject of educated guesswork. So far, Capt. Midnight's guess as reinforcements on the curved lid is my favourite interpretation. The Phipps box was a late 17th century find (1690s) and did not have the extra slats to guess at. If you read through the discussion on the other topic I linked to in my above post (I know it is a long discussion) but the differences are discuss there. Between the above linked discussion and this discussion on the Pirate Brethren forum, you are probably looking at the best information on the web regarding the topic.

Hey there, If you read through this topic you will find there are a few folks on this forum making them (myself amongst them), but just as a heads up, I have patterned my reconstruction more after the Phipps shot box than the Whydah box. They are both similar in size and shape, the differences are pretty subtle. Let me know if you are interested (Private Message me through the forum). Currently I am at the stage where it would take me 2 to 3 months to complete any orders in case time is of a concern for you. Regards

I was a big fan as well, in fact I may have liked the Kane stories better than Howard's Conan stories... But the trailer I remember seeing (and this was quite a while ago so my memory of it is vague), had the film very stylistically similar to the Van Helsing film starring that Wolverine guy (Hugh Jackman). While I don't think the film will live up to the stories whatsoever, I am still morbidly curious to see it... And appreciate it coming up here. Now to find it.

I haven't read enough on lace to really know what I am talking about... So please take everything I say on the matter with that in mind... But from the little I have read, there are different kinds of lace (construction wise) on top of different styles. The main two I know anything about it bobbin lace (lace made with little bobbins and a cushion), and then netted lace (made with a little tool found at your local sewing supply store), I think I came across a third style of lace (and there may be more yet that I know less than nothing about). From the little I read, netted lace came into dominance during the Victorian era (although it's roots may go back further), and bobbin lace was what was popular during the GAoP. So if you are really interested in getting more into the nitty gritty of lace, that might help you start the search. I'm not sure if there is any highly visible difference between the construction styles, or whether the difference is something only a borderline expert would notice. And ultimately caring about those differences or not would really rely on how much one cares about that particular kind of detail. Hope this has helped.

Last year as far as I was concerned, it was perfect re-enacting weather... Warm enough to be nice (but a tad cool in the night) and not so hot as to be oppressive. As for the gunpowder in my coffee.... After the initial shock and almost breaking into tears like the baby I am (when it comes to coffee), that was some of the best tasting black powder I ever tasted... The sutlers from last year while few, were good and had some decent stuff. I think I bought stuff from all three vendors in attendance. Some flints from Art and Janet, some other musket cleaning accessories from the tented vendor, and my second pair of shoes from the guy there selling the Loyalist shoes (who made not have been set up to "officially" vend, but had the stuff there for sale). I was really tempted on some of the wools the one vendor had, but it wasn't in the budget. Art and Janet will be there again, and they always seem to have pipes in stock, I think the tented vendor had them as well, so you should be covered there Patrick.

Please count the wife and I as in. We'll have everything we need to take care of ourselves and perhaps a few extras to help the camp in general. Our tent footprint is about 8 feet by 9 feet. Let us know if you need anything else from us.

Awesome work as always Patrick... I was able to dig through the Brethren Archives and dig up the source picture I think you are talking about... I'll post a LINK to the Picture rather than the picture itself as the image is HUGE... There was also this inside view of the carriage.

Great information. A question, Is the gargoussier a Cartridge 'bag' or a Cartridge 'box' ? I have seen the pictures of the Whydah Cartridge box and other's on the pub, I usually think of them as a 'military' kind of item. I have also seen pictures of people on the pub with what looks more like a 'bag' similar to the hunting pouch of the long hunters, akin to a modern ladies purse in a manner of speaking. Which would be the 'gargoussier' ? The suggestion that people say these do not appear until the 1750's makes me think the answer is that the gargoussier is more like the long hunters pouch. Yes? Second question, it says the "cartridges are secured in the cartridge-bag so that they can neither be broken or bent". I have seen how this is done in a cartridge box, with the little dividers, each cartridge in its own little hole, but how would it be done in a bag? Good discussion. The "Gargoussier" according to French and Indian War re-enacting conventions is a leather covered wooden shot box. There is a French term (which escapes my mind at the moment) that according to French and Indian War conventions applies to a shot bag. As the F&IW conventions are more popular (being a period with MANY more re-enactors), it would make sense that there may be a bit of a propensity to want to keep those terms applied to the associated objects with that frame of reference... But I would be willing to bet money, that just like the English language of the buccaneer and GAoP, the earlier one goes, the more intermingled and interchanged the terms are. I would also suspect as well as there being a difference to what a 1680s Gargoussier (shot box) would look like versus a 1750s Gargoussier (shot box). So I wouldn't get too hung up in "Gargoussier = Shot box" (or shot pouch) mentality, as it is likely in the buccaneer era, it could very well likely just as easily equate to either a shot box or pouch on top of the designs for shot pouches and boxes being different from later 18th century periods.

I'm not sure, I have posted the info on their groups forum... And there seems to be interest and talk about it from various people in their group... But nothing solid yet. I do hope they come, they were a ton of fun to hang out with. And D'Booty has some seriously extensive knowledge of the Buccaneers... And a great deal of it committed to memory as well!