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thanks for the waring, may i ask what was your beer intake during this period? i have people ask me what did sailor eat during the 1700, i have heard of the ships bisket and have seen some hardtack. but after looking at some of the food stuffs taken to sea i was thinking what could a creative cook come up with, before he is thrown over the side. there was a time when i was trying to save money and i ate alot of rice. i came up with alot of different dishes using it as the main dish. i have two different manifests and rice is on both.

i have been doing some research on period shipboard cooking and have been drawing up plans to build a fogan and try some recipes using the ingredients that are found in old shipboard food storage lists.

i was in the navy when sailors where allowed to have beards. zomwalt's navy. if you have ever "been" to SEA and have felt the wind whip through your beard you wouldn't even be wondering about this. think of your self up in the tops, one hand for the ship the other for you. the wind whipping through your beard, what better weather gauge could there be. i still wear my beard...

i know what you are saying, but everytime we shoot the cw gun(12pdr dalgerhen boat howizter) we always use a pouch to transfer the charge from the ammo box to the loader #2 man . there are some things you have to do for safety. i would use it for every shot.

thanks for the input, you gave me the word that i had been looking for "pass box/bag/barrel/bucket" i have found several places on the net using those words. thanks agian.

Check this out.This will give you an idea what to shoot for..I've heard during the 1700's these pouches would hold 2 ro 4 cartridges. BAR only allows 2 cartridges to be carried at one time...http://cgi.ebay.com/RUSSIAN-IMPERIAL-ARTILLERY-AMO-CARTRIDGE-POUCH_W0QQitemZ270356598933QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ef2825095&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 thanks a lot for the input. that is a great looking ammo pouch, if i hit the right site that is a small arms or primer pouch worn by a gunner. i'm looking for the protective pouch or case carried by your powder boys, to get the cannon charge from the magazine to the gun deck. i know cannon cartridges were being used in the 1600's it is written as a responsiablity of the master gunner in "the sea-mens grammer" by john smith. again thanks.

yes, that is the gun i have. i'm building in the english style, with a full bed. i have the transome, stool and quion to complete and then start bolting it all together. this "floating" thing concerns me. i did alot of checking around before i bought and all i heard was positive feed back about hearn. can you give me more details about what you have heard and how would you check something like that. thanks

i bought a 1805 swivil gun from hearns iron works and i'm builting a 1700's style naval carriage to fit the gun. started in jan. hope to have it done by april but had to stop working on it to take care of other things.

my cannon project is coming along and it is getting to the point of adding small item to the operation of the gun. i have been searching the web and books for what was used to run the cannon cartridge to the gun crew for loading. i'm trying to look at the early 1700's time frame. the leather or wooden case seems to have surfaced in the mid to late 1700's, holding the cartridge under one coat was read in on book and i know about the ladel and bunge barrel or powder bag. i have been on CW naval guns i know the modern artillery rules "leather pouch". i would be thankful for any thoughts, referances or an old thread that i have missed even opinions. thanks

three cheers for the U.S. NAVY!!!

i have been doing some research on shipboard foods in the 1600's and have found two different list of what foods a captian needs to stow aboard for a cruise. each had rice on it. does anybody have a period recipe for rice?

naval carriage update: found a drawing of a carriage in a rev war book i liked, it was narrow in the front and widen as it went aft also it had a wide wheel base but the cheeks narrowed as it supported the gun. got the graph paper out worked up a drawing then got some cardboard and built a full size mockup made changes here and there and by christmas had a workable plan. had some days off during christmas and new year and have been in the garage aka "ye old cannon shoppe" she isn't done yet but it is taking shape, i have axles, a bed and cheeks. nothing is bolted together yet. i need to make wheels, a stool and quoin and a transome for the forward end under the gun. with no wheels on it it is standing at 21 1/2" tall and it is 24" wide from axle end to axle end, and 28" from bow to stern. have taken pics and will post them when i get a chance. i went with 2" cheeks on it, better to over build then to be sorry later on.

came across this site a couple of days ago"http://www.bloodandsawdust.com/sca/campstuff.html" i think these guy are more in the gaop then the rev war furniture. i have read in a book about the defeat of the armada how the spanish admiral sat his canvas chair on deck and watched the battle. anyone have any thoughts on how that chair may have looked?

Why thank you sir ! I love these new cannon and am greatful for Wes to work on them for me. I have heard many a good story from sailors and airmen stationed in the PI ., most loved it ., however the military keeps one pretty busy and it doesnt leave one enough time to really enjoy alot of "Whats out there". I would like to take a moment however and say to you personally ., Thank You for your service L. Silver . Because of the services I am free to do these cannon ! The San Miguel you say ., delicious as always ., however a little warm., sound familiar? I just got a teaser from Wes ..., Muzzels. 2 Bronze and 2 Stainless. i am touch. your welcome. mean looking cannon crew you have there, that pic bring back memories. i had a good time there, did work alot, i was there during the iranian hostage thing. i worked outside for awhile never worked anywhere hotter and that rainy season was something.

great looking guns, i like your design. i was stationed in the PI for 2yrs at subic bay in the late 70's. still have my bontoc war shield and a nice collection of bolo's. how is the san miguel?

i made my own plans, though i am doing some adjustment to them now. i had planned on buying the wood for the carriage but a friend gave me these large pieces of oak. so i'm reworking the measurment so i can use it. thickness of the cheeks are my biggest concern now. i would like to fire live rounds from it. plan on making my own trunnion caps. i want the center line of the barrel to set about 21 to 22" off the deck.

Assuming the barrel is properly designed and proportioned, the thickness of the cheeks needs to be about the length of the trunnions. Any thicker than the length of the trunnions does you no good. Any thinner than the trunnion length is likely not going to be strong enough. >>>> Cascabel that's good news because that would be a match in wood and trunnion at 1 1/4". i had heard not to go thinner then 2".

i'm getting ready to start work on a 1700 naval carriage, with soild deck. i'm building it to fit the hearn's 1805 swivel gun, it is 30'' long, weigths 90lbs, trunnions are 1 1/4", has a 1 3/4bore(golfball) will fire 2oz. of powder. i was able to get a couple of long pieces of white oak they are 2 1/2" thick, 6" wide and 6' long. i want to cut them to where they are 1 1/4" thick and use it for the cheeks to rest the trunnions in. my question is will it take the recoil at that width?

went to work on the spouge project. made the baggywinkle and drilling some holes in the pole attached it to the pole with knots. wish i had a picture, i think it looked very good and period. the only problem was i had more sponge then cannon bore(13/4in), it would have been great for a 4in bore. so i started to trim it down and down and down. by the time i got it to fit the the bore there wasn't much left of the baggywinkle it was mostly the rope with a winkle here and there. tried a couple of different adjustment different size winkles and attachment rope, even wire. nothing seem to work as well as the first one i made. so i backed up and took another look at this, i have decided to drill a series of 1/4in hole in a spiral patten through the pole and push the baggywinkle shourd thought each one. it will give me a small but brislly looking sponge.

Do we mean on how th' spounge was used, or how you would jimmy rig a few shrouds t' a pole to make a squeegee...eerrrr sponge? the baggywrinkle would work as a sponge, i looked at so old drawing on the web and saw that the sponge look like a brisle brush. how would it be attached to the pole?

i was looking at an old book from the 1600 called the "SEA GUNNER INSTUCTIONS" it can be found on the web. it stated that a gunner should have plenty of old shourds to be used as sponge. does anyone have any thought on how this is used?

i have a brass barreled buss military style (not a dog lock) from loyalist arms. got it about two years ago. it is a very good looking weapon, very impressive. once a month i do a mariner interpertation at a local site. the buss is the center peice in the weapon display. people are attacted to it, lots of questions and when i ask them if they would like to see it fire, yes is always the answer. the only thing better is a cannon, which i'm working on now.

lads, i don't think it will last. pirates by nature are a colorful and tacky bunch of scallywags. this is like the land of the dead in POC 3, where's the crabs?

you can get a decorative globe for 20.00 that has a old 16-17th century map on it that works great. i use one to instruct 17th centruy navigation. if there are any other navigators are reading this i have this question. what is the importantance in nav. of the suns place in the zodiac? i haven't mastered that yet.

i just bought the english swivel from hearn iron works. it was delivered last monday. it took about 3weeks to get it. it is cast iron with steel liner, 30in. long from the mussle to the end of the casabal, weights 90lbs(back has been hurting for a week now) has a 1 3/4in. bore. no swivel mont included, didn't ask about one. i plan to build a naval carriage to mount it on. it is a very period looking gun, has good weight and with that bore size it will get noticed. and the price was very good even with shipping. in the movie master & commander near the end, when they show crow giving sailing orders to one of his officers there is a swivel gun it the back ground that is what it looks like. hearn made the gun for the movie.