Capt. Sterling
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Back to the boot question... and here comes that dreaded phrase "the fashion", if presenting a well turned calf was the style during the GAoP and up until the later 18th century, why cover it up with heavy boots? Even books on teaching gentlemen the proper way to bow, taught one would present their forward leg with the calf slightly turned outward to show it off and since men were known to wear padding under their stockings to beef up their calves, I would think shoes were certainly far more the rage then boots. Calves were in then not boots...
whether they had them or not.Hector
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I thought cigar smoking came from the colonies?
Sorry let me clarify that more, the colonies that later became the United States... not the others...
Hector
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I know there were cigars in Spain and it is not thought that they reached the colonies prior to 1760s? Any word and if yes what would a proper GAoP cigar look like length and ring gauge?
Hector
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I have a wedding to do and was wondering if anyone knew of a period correct wedding ceremony that would have been used on ships? Perhaps from the Royal Navy at the time of the GAoP??? Or was this more or less a Hollywood thing?
Thanks,
Hector
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I think it's very cool that folks are looking at things from the Spanish point of view. I've always believe there was/is alot to learn about pirates from the records of the Spanish, French and Dutch.
In fact, I think I might join that Spanish colonial mail list.
Try contacting the folks at the fort down in St. Augustine Florida, I had all of ten minutes to chat with them and learned quite a bit. They said alot of differences boiled down to Catholic versus Protestant as well and that no self repecting English/Welsh pirate be he a church goer or not, would have leaned toward copying in any way shape or form a Spanish Catholic.... as according to the folks at the fort, they were some of the only "civilized" folks still wearing earrings during the GAoP period the rest of Europe and England were NOT.... Like I said, only had about ten minutes but if any one is interested the soldiers down there seem to be pretty detailed about their kit and their research.... Just a thought.
Hector
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I've heard that the movie industry uses peat moss or potting soil for aging effects.
It's called Fuller's Earth and I believe you can find some herehttp://www.cineshoppe.com/fullers1.htm. It's usually dusted or spread over clothing, sometimes rubbed in, to achieve a dirty look.
Hector
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See events at the bottom of the main page, or clicky
Great thanks! Appreciate the help!
Hector
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Only the hat? What ya mean, puts boots On?
Well she's obviously not a pirate then....
hector
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What about The Fortunes and Misfortunes of the famous Moll Flanders by Defoe? I haven't read this one yet, only seen it done on the tube. And Fanny Hill is a brilliant book for that sort of "research" .
Hector
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Off the top of my head, I'd say no. Digger a little deeper into my head, I'd say no, except maybe toward the very end of the GA. I guess I could do the right thing and pick up a book.
Ouch :angry: I should do my own homework, but I'm too busy sewing justacorps and sleeved waistcoats....
And Foxe has recommended a bunch of books that I need to get started on...... :) Hector
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Does anyone know the actual average height for crowns and width for brims circa 1695-1710?
Hector
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I have an original pair of 18th century Grice pistols made in London. They look very close to some of the pistols on GOF's website. Now, I know Grice still made weapons circa the American Revolutionary War, but does anyone know how early they started making pistols and would they, therefore, be suitable for GAoP?
Thanks for any info.
Hector
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Does anyone know who the contact person/persons is/are for this event? I would appreciate a name and email address if possible.
Thanks very much.
Hector
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They went to Williamsburg and showed some guy making chocolate candy from an 18th century recipe. It was pretty cool!
ps - like that sig! I've always wanted to make a banyan and wear that to a pirate event. As I believe I stated before, maybe on the piratebrethren mail list, give me that, and a pipe, and I could be the Dread Pirate Hefner!
Thanks BlackJohn
Banyans were considered undress wear, but not necessarily robes as we think of robes today. Many business men wore them at work and could even visit certain other business men in their banyans. There were loose rules on when and where to go out in them... For instance, say, the Govenor of Williamsburg could receive callers wearing his banyan, but those calling upon him would be dressed properly. A tradesman/shop owner could wear his in shop and go out to another shop where the owners were of equal/lesser station still dressed in his banyan as long as the other shop was within a building or two's distance or directly across the street. If it was across town, he'd put on a proper coat. So onboard ship, it would seem very suitable for the captain to wear his outside of his cabin, if he indeed had a banyan. Silks as well as Indian cottons were usually used for the banyan's fabric. Now off to get a cup of coffee.....
Hector
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I'll add coffee houses!!!
And lets not forget cocoa!!! I remember reading about Dampier and his mates mixing up impromptu cocoa on the spot from ground beans, sugar, and hot water.
Rumor has it that Williamsburg has come out with a period correct chocolate, which they serve with cyanne pepper... makes one wonder as either Waller or Picard claim that between all the coffee and chocolate of the time, most of London would have been on a full time high!!
Hector
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How about using the absolutely worng fabric/ materials for the garment? Cut up bed sheets, sail cloth, or something else cobbled together?
Are you ship wrecked on an uncharted island?
Hector
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And Josh, I don't dress like a man...
Look you there now Mistress Kass! Me thinks you dress very manly indeed in that fine hunting attire, at least from the middlings upward! :)
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Why shouldn't pirates wear gloves?
Because they are hot. That is, if we're talking pirates in the tropics and not the arctic.
Ever wear even light gloves in the summer? I ride horses and, trust me, you take them babies off as soon as you dismount. At least I do. But you wear them when you're riding - ie, when you need them?
Gloves were also a fashion item for the times.
My question is, also being a rider, when gloves are wet they can also be very slippery so being around water....Other than warmth on board a ship, would gloves be useful? Did pirates need gloves for protection during work?
Hector
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Talk about the origin of a fashion how about men's ties? Always seemed like a bad idea to me. Wrap something tight about your neck and hope it never catches on anything and chokes you!
Well, and unfortunately I don't know how this developed or how far back it goes, but in fox hunting, the stock tie actually doubled as a bandage in case of accident out on the hunt. The stock pin, worn even by men, worn with the opening part downward so as not to have it open accidently and stab the rider in the chin, was also used to help secure the bandage or "hold bits" together if needed. I would assume the modern tie evolved directly from the cravat but if that was worn originaly "as a spare bandage" I have no clue. But one wonders when one knows the history of fox hunting attire.
Just a thought
Hector
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Waller claims "Teeth' is listed in the bills as a cause of death. Mortality was high among infants at teething stage."
"Septicaemai and abscess could kill."
"Tabacco was thought to cure toothache. Alternatively, The English Housewife advised: Take sage, rue smallage, fetherfew, wormwood, and mint, of each of them half a handful, then stamp them well all together, putting thereto four drams of vinegar, stir them all well together, then put it between two linnen clouts, of the bigness of your cheek, temples, and jaw, and quilt it in a manner of course imbroydery. Then set it upon a chassing-dish of coals, and as hot as you may abide it, lay it over the side where the pain is, and lay you down upon that side, and as it cools warm it up again, or else have another ready to lay on."
"If you keep your teeth from rotting, or aching, wash the mouth continually every morning with the juyce of lemons,'The Queen's Closet Open'd advised, 'and afterwards rub your teeth with a sage leaf, and wash your teeth after meat with fair water.' The returning court at the Restoration had introduced toothbrushes from Paris, but there is little evidence that they were widely used. Toothpicks were part of the toilette. It was possible to have the teeth scraped, but it was a painful and costly business. Extraction must have been all too tempting for those suffering toothache. False teeth, of human or animal origin, were available, but were so ill-fitting that speech became pretty much incomprehensible."
Pgs. 103-4. 1700 Scene from London Life... Maureen Waller.
Both Waller and Picard are a generalized history of the times but both help point you in the right direction and get your feet wet for life in general. And if you read over both their references and Waller's bibliography, you can find names of original authors and their articles....for more indepth, first source research....
Hector
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Waller claims "Teeth' is listed in the bills as a cause of death. Mortality was high among infants at teething stage."
"Septicaemai and abscess could kill."
"Tabacco was thought to cure toothache. Alternatively, The English Housewife advised: Take sage, rue smallage, fetherfew, wormwood, and mint, of each of them half a handful, then stamp them well all together, putting thereto four drams of vinegar, stir them all well together, then put it between two linnen clouts, of the bigness of your cheek, temples, and jaw, and quilt it in a manner of course imbroydery. Then set it upon a chassing-dish of coals, and as hot as you may abide it, lay it over the side where the pain is, and lay you down upon that side, and as it cools warm it up again, or else have another ready to lay on."
"If you keep your teeth from rotting, or aching, wash the mouth continually every morning with the juyce of lemons,'The Queen's Closet Open'd advised, 'and afterwards rub your teeth with a sage leaf, and wash your teeth after meat with fair water.' The returning court at the Restoration had introduced toothbrushes from Paris, but there is little evidence that they were widely used. Toothpicks were part of the toilette. It was possible to have the teeth scraped, but it was a painful and costly business. Extraction must have been all too tempting for those suffering toothache. False teeth, of human or animal origin, were available, but were so ill-fitting that speech became pretty much incomprehensible."
Pgs. 103-4. 1700 Scene from London Life... Maureen Waller.
Both Waller and Picard are a generalized history of the times but both help point you in the right direction and get your feet wet for life in general. And if you read over both their references and Waller's bibliography, you can find names of original authors and their articles....for more indepth, first source research....
Hector
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oops Liza Picard's Restoration London, from poverty to pets, from medicine to magic, from slang to sex, from wallpapers to women's rights.
I'll see what Waller says about it in her 1700s book as well.....
Hector
Reconstructing Histories 1700s Frock Coat Review
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But the problem here is patterns don't and never have and this includes Vogue, Butterick, Simplicity, McCalls, Folkwear, Past Patterns, etc. etc. You must measure yourself and go by the sizing on the patterns to get the correct fit. There is no way around it unfortunately.
Hector