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Is it known when a copy will be avaiable for us down here? I'd sure like to see it! :)

You know you really shouldn't share your VD. It's not polite or healthy

Read Ken Kinkor's Black Men Under the Black Flag in Bandits at Sea: A Pirate Reader pg195-210. A lot of information on black brethern of the coasts.

This is much to late for GAoP but it is a good rendition of late 18th c. naval dress: http://www.military-historians.org/company...sabove800.htm#a scroll down to no. 820 Continental Frigate Alliance, 1779-1784

This is a quote from Boarders Away v.1 by William Glickerson pg. 36 regarding The illustration in GHP st ed. 1724: "While Defoe's 9he goes for DeFoe as author theory)text has been proven largely authoritative by subsequent scolars, the illustrations for his popular book (an other copycat publications of the time) are seeen as fanciful in amny details. The reader will not here be burdened by a further expostion of the often-reproduced pirate picturea showing odd pike-headed, axe-like things of dubious origin ...The sperhead would have prevented either the pick or the blade from being able to chop into any of the ships thousands of corners and angles, immeseurably inhibting the tools fire-fightling capability. Also, such a weapon would have had an inconveintly wide swinging arc under the low (5-1/2' average) overhead timbers of a frigates gun-deck, quarter-deck, or forcastle. Further it was obviously not adapted for safe carrying at the belt, and it would have been prickley thing to handle amongst the press of one's own comrades." In other words, looks great on paper but a b&%$ to use in real life onboard ship! :)

I'm not certain it would be considered a sea chest but here's one that belonged to Capt. Tew: http://www.piratesoul.com/spotlight_detail.aspx?id=4 I remember when this came up at auction a few years back as part of the Driscoll Piracy Library auction at Christies. I drooled over it then and it still makes me salivate! The sword on top of the page was also owned by Tew. I've been looking for a photo of it for years so I could have a relpica made. And now there it is!

Passing a desk I say this book "A History of Singapore, 1819-1975" curious I preused it. Although it's about modern Saingapoer which was established on Jan. 30, 1819 (well after Capt. Jack's time) it does spend a little time on Singapore's pre-history. Apparantly in the 14th century it was a pirate haven! Back then it was called Temask. An eyewitness was a Chinese trader Wang Ta-yuan saying it was a dread place for traders. "Of the inhabitants he said 'everything the inhabitants posses is a product of their plundering of Chinese junks'. Also about Temesk "Arab writers in thethirteenth century had spoken of the neighboring islands 'from which armed black pirates with poisoned arrows emerge, possesing armed warships' " " WangTa-yuan told how west-bound ships were allowed to pass without hinderence, but on the homeward run junks put up padded screens as protection and prayed for fair winds to carry them safely past the savage Tan-ma-hsi or Temasek pirates, who lurked in wait with as many as two ot three hundred boats" Hmmm! Maybe Ted and/or Terrie read this book.

I think that's Roberts. The closest thing to what you mention is this: "When night came on, I had nothing left of what had been bundled up, but a Hat and Wig. ...The Hat and Wig I had left, being hung on Pins in the Cabin, a person half drunk came in about eight a clock at night, and put them on; telling me, "He was a great Merchant on Shore and his name was Hogbin" ...

In the Snelgrave captivity narrative I've been reading there is an account of the three pirate captains: Davis, Cocklyn & Le Boofe (Le Bouche) taking 3 coats from Snelgrave so they would look good for a night on the town with the Ladies: " Amonst my Adventure of Goods, I had in a Box three second hand embroidered Coats. One day the three Pirate Captains, comong aboard the Prize (Snelgrave's ship) together enquired for them saying. 'They understood by my Book such Clothes were in my ship'. I told them, 'They were in a Box under the bed place in the State-room.' So they ordered them to be taken out and immediately put them on. But the longest Coat falling to Cocklyn's share, who was a very short man, it almost reached as low as his Ancles (ankles). This very displeased him, and he would fain have changed with Le Boofe, or Davis : But they refused him saying, 'As they were going on Shore amongst the Negro-Ladies, who did not know the white Mens fashion, it was no matter. Moreover as is Coat was Scarlet embroidered with Silver, they believed he would have the preference of them, (whose coats were not so showy) in the opion on of their Mistress." A new Account of Guinea... by William Snelgrave published 1734 pg. 255-256 (narrative toke place in 1718) So it seem even a pirates liked to dress up for their lady friends! I get image on a Bob Hsoskins size pirate captain in an oversize but fancy coat!

I have a persona with an ME background so I wear things like Ghahzee coats, harem pants, keyhole vests etc. Any tribal look will do. The whole reason for trabl bellydance is that dancers needed some way to fit into a Ren. Faire enviroment cause cabaret outfits just wouldn't work. Hope that helps.

I always have a problem when some says their idea has been stolen years after a film has been released. The fact he has not allowed his film to be seen by anyone makes his claim a bit dodgey to say the least. I call it for Ted & Terrie on this one.

Wearing a fox tail meant you werwe a prositute.

And a very fine magazine on all things piratical too! :) Shameless plug for Jamaica Rose.

Check out this new site I found: http://www.dresslikeapirate.com/

The Library hasn't gotten this yet but I thought I'd some of you might be intersted since Pyle did so many pirate illustrtions and is partly responsible for the popular image of pirates we have today: (Pyle, Howard) Davis, Paul Preston HOWARD PYLE: HIS LIFE -- HIS WORK Two volumes. New Castle and Wilmington Oak Knoll Press and The Delaware Art Museum 2004 4to. cloth, dust jacket. 906 pages. At the dawn of the 20th century, Howard Pyle was America's most famous and influential illustrator. Through the illustrated pages of Harper's, Scribner's and Century magazines, the American public first became acquainted with the illustrator that they would come to love. Both by example and through his teaching, Pyle molded and influenced generations of young artists who have continued his unique vision of illustration far beyond his own lifetime. Published 93 years after the death of Howard Pyle, this book celebrates the enduring and far-reaching achievements of America's foremost illustrator. Illustrated with over 3300 images, this important research tool represents the complete record of all known Howard Pyle illustrations, hundreds of which have not been reproduced since their original publication over 100 years ago. Paul Preston Davis, with exhaustive research and dogged perseverance, has produced a much-needed resource for the study of Howard Pyle and American illustration. His work greatly expands upon the data originally collected by Willard S. Morse and Gertrude Brincklé in 1921. For the first time, full-color images (approx. 1.25 x 2.25 inches) of each of Pyle's published and unpublished works are provided in a single source. Most importantly for the researcher, Davis has indexed and re-indexed the information, creating a tool that is as easy to use as it is valuable. This remarkable and comprehensive set of books embodies years of research and will be valued and treasured by researchers, scholars, librarians, and collectors alike. Co-published with The Delaware Art Museum. Available in January 2005. Price: $ 149.95 other currencies Order nr. 75317

The mention about the position of QM was in conjunction with Cocklyn. Snelgrave talks about the arrival of three pirate ships. Cocklyn on the , Davis and Le Boofe. There is an interesting passage (following the priate captains having taken Snelgrave's finest clothes) on page 257: "The pirate Captains having taken these clothes without leave from the Quater-master, it gave grave offence to all the crew; who alledg'd, "If they suffered such things, the Captains would the future assume a Power, to take whatever they liked for themselves"... " So upon thier returning (form a night on the town) on board next Morning, the Coats were taken from then and put into the common chest, to be sold at the mast. And having been reported, That I had a hand in the advising the Captains tp put on the Coats it gained me the ill-will in particular of one Williams, who was Quater-master of Le Boofe's ship." Snelgrave else where states he had to ask the quatermater permission for his surgeon to attend his wounded. I have't seen Roberts make an apperance yet. I'm still going through the narrative in my copious free time. There a bits that reflect Roberts such as no women aboard ship and if taken as prise not to force her against her will. But Snelgrave use the phrase "A Rule amongst the Pirates" as if there was common pratice not something followed by one pirate captain's rule or those captains and crew asscoiated with him. Maybe Snelgrave was making assumptions? He was with I would consider three very different captains.

Good Fox!e Tha part about the quartemaster maybe somewhat off since I did find some more information about quartemasters in William Snelgarve's book: A new account of some parts of Guinea,|band the slave-trade, containing I. The history of the late conquest of the Kingdom of Whidaw by the King of Dahomè ... II. The manner how the negroes become slaves. ... III. A relation of the author's being taken by pirates, .. printed 1734. Starting on page 199: "The captain of a pirate ship, is cheifly chosen to fight the vessels they may meet with. Besides him, they chuse another principal Officer, whom they call the Quarter-matser, who has general Inspection of all Affairs, and often controuls the Captain's Orders: This Person is also to be the first Man in borading any ship they shall attack; or go in the boat on any desprate Enterprise. Besides the Captain and Quarte-master the Pirates had all other Officers as usual on board Men of War." This pirate captivity account occured in 1719. Marcus Redicker cities more refernces and according to his endnote mostly primary sources. I had been meaning to post this on the quartermaster thread but got side track by a few things at work. There are other refernces which I can supply if you want. I hope I'm not being too critical cause I like the site!

I haven't posted any books in awhile because the Library hadn't recieved anything on the subject till now. Here are some recent acquisitions: Villains of all nations : Atlantic pirates in the golden age / Marcus Rediker Boston : Beacon Press, 2004. ISBN 0807050245 Return to Treasure Island and the search for Captain Kidd / Barry Clifford with Paul Perry. New York : William Morrow, 2003. ISBN 0060185090 The Barbary corsairs : warfare in the Mediterranean, 1480-1580 / by Jacques Heers ; translated by Jonathan North. London : Greenhill ; Mechanicsburg, PA : Stackpole Books, 2003. ISBN 1853675520 Hello sailor! : the hidden history of gay life at sea / Paul Baker and Jo Stanley London ; New York : Longman, 2003. ISBN0582772141

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OMG! It's the Dread Pirate Shecky!

Zorg sent this link to me: http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2000/06/14pirates.html Have fun!

I saw Baldrick on the History Channel yesterday and he already looks aged! Oh you mean the baldrick you wear

I did bookbinding on my own in art school and took lesson later if you can get instruction it's better here's what someone on the book arts list I'm on posted: "She might try contacting Charles Collings at his bindery. Collings Bindery 410 North Larchmont Boulevard Los Angeles, CA 90004 · 323-460-6333* He does take in students and probably would be able to accommodate her for a modest fee. Charles Schermerhorn Lompoc, CA" I also seem to recall a book arts organization in LA but I'll have to dig through material to find it.

I just wanted to say that we pairates were a big hit at the Make-a-Wish Holiday party. A few of my Port Royal Privateers were at CBS (Price is Right sound stage) handing out treasure and puttting smiles on childrens' faces. It was a pleasure to make them smile! :) We even sang a carol "Deck the Deck"

Dependnmg where you live I may be able to point you in the direction of where you can get a workshop on basic simple bookbinding techniques. It's not something you can put in an e-mail but still not hard to learn. I'm on a books arts list so I can post a request there also if you wish.