jendobyns

Hi,

Could you please provide the source of the quoted period recipe? Thanks!

Mistress (Jen) Dobyns

Salmagundi is an old recipe that came to be known as a pirate meal.

• "Cut cold roast chicken or other meats into slices. Mix with minced tarragon and an onion. Mix all together with capers, olives, samphire, broombuds, mushrooms, oysters, lemon, orange, raisins, almonds, blue figs, Virginia potatoes, peas and red and white currants. Garnish with sliced oranges and lemons. Cover with oil and vinegar, beaten together." (from The Good Huswives Treasure, Robert May, 1588-1660)
• "A mixture of minced veal, chicken or turkey, anchovies or pickled herring, and onions, all chopped together and served with lemon juice and oil."
• Salmagundi is also purportedly a meal served on pirate ships. It is a stew of anything the cook had on hand, usually consisting of chopped meat, anchovies, eggs, and onions, often arranged in rows on lettuce and served with vinegar and oil, and spiced with anything available. The following is taken from a reprint of "Mrs. Hill's New Cook Book", originally published in 1867 and republished by Applewood Books of Bedford, Massachusetts.

"Boil two calf's feet; take the feet out when done; reduce the broth to a quart. The feet may be fried and used, first removing the bones. Let the broth become cold in an earthen vessel; scrape off all the grease; wipe the top of the jelly with a coarse towel; put the cake of jelly into a kettle lined with tin or porcelain; season it with two lemons cut up (removing the seed), fine blades of mace, a stick of cinnamon, pepper (white pepper is best), and salt to taste. Beat to a froth the whites of six eggs; stir these to the jelly just as it melts; it must then be left to clarify and not stirred again. When it simmers long enough to look clear at the sides, strain it through a flannel bag before the fire; do not squeeze the bag. Suspend it by running a stick through a loop made by tying the bag; rest each end of the stick upon a chair, and throw a table-cloth over all to keep out the dust. If the jelly does not run through clear the first time, pour it through the jelly-bag again. Set this aside. Prepare the meat and seasoning for the pie. Put into a stew-pan slices of pickled pork, using a piece of pork four inches square; if it is very salt[y] lay it an hour in tepid water. Cut up two young, tender chickens--a terrapin, if it is convenient--two or three young squirrels, half a dozen birds or squabs. Stew them gently, cutting up and adding a few sprigs of parsley. Roll into half a pound of butter two tablespoonfuls of flour; add this to the stew until the meat is nearly done. Line a fire-proof dish, or two fire-proof dishes (this quantity of stew will fill two common-sized or quart dishes;) with good pastry; mix the different kinds of meats; put in Irish potato dumplings; season to taste; pour in the gravy and bake. When done, remove the upper crust when the pie is cold and pack in the jelly, heaping the jelly in the middle. Return the crust and serve cold or hot. The jelly will prevent them become too dry. They are good Christmas pies and will keep several days. Very little gravy should be used, and that rich. Should there be too much, leave the stew-pan open until reduced sufficiently. This kind of pie keeps well if made in deep plates, and by some is preferred to those baked in deep moulds."

I've found some other recipes on the internet as well. They're all different!

• http://www.bigoven.c...ndi-recipe.html
• http://www.celtnet.o...eliz-salmagundi
• http://www.ifood.tv/recipe/salmagundi
• http://www.recipe-co...undi/14771.html
• http://www.cookadvic...4633-recipe.htm
• http://www.allbritis.../salmagundi.php

HI,

I'm new to this forum, so jumping on this bandwagon _very_ late. This painting and several of the Watteau paintings and the subject of "jumps" have been discussed deeply by the 18C community in other forums. Some of the Watteau paintings appear to have been a form of "cheesecake". Not intended for public consumption drawing room at the time, but for more private viewing. So you get these ladies showing their garters in a state of semi-undress. Also the paintings of "shepherdesses" in what look like jumps, shifts loosely draped, etc.

Not all paintings were serious and formal at the time. There was fantasy art back then, too. And a fair amount of what we might call adult material. Much of it has been lost, but was created by the same artists who did serious painting. It all depended on what the market (person who commissioned the art) wanted. And there was even a trend for having portraits in "antique" or exotic clothing. So you can't take what is in paintings as gospel.

You are on the right track with what you're planning to do for jumps. One of their purposes was as an extra layer of warmth, so forming them over your stays is approprite. And that will also give them the right shape for the occasions when you decide to wear them for comfort instead of stays. *S*

quote name='LadyBrower' date='12 August 2009 - 11:36 PM' timestamp='1250138176' post='366194']

hahaha! I think it's part artistic lisence, part the fact the are not tightened...

But yea... I'm so tempted to make jumps based on the few waistcoat pictures available. I want to make them quilted but lace or tie in the front. I'm thinking that if I create waistcoat pattern on a form with my stays on it, it will have a similar shape, and then I can flare it out at the hips there.... get the idea?

Just a though. Period or no I think it would look super cute with low rise jeans for fall with a cute peasant top and some nice knitted mitts....

Ah, lad, we could get you in to volunteer, though. I know a redcoat captain or two (sea and land) who will be along when Lord Cornwallis takes over the town. And the officer's mess could always use a hand or two.

Mistress Dobyns

one of the newbies to the forum

aaahhh a fine REAL township t'would be..........i do wonder is one day will get a colonial mystic seaport to live/work in.......that would be great.........oh...and colonial williamsburg isnt hiring atm.........sadness...........

You can download a copy of the Young Clerk's Assistant from Google Books.

Capt Black

Oh, cool, they also have Dr. Johnson's dictionary! Thank you for that source!

Jen

This site is pretty good http://dohistory.org...it/writing.html, it explains a lot about how to read the writing of the day. I am trying to reeducate myself to write in 17-18th century form. It is like learning a new language.

Capt. Black

That's a pretty interesting web site. They have some useful tips. I'd like to add that if you want to use an OED as a reference source, go for the earliest version you can find. The OED is changed every so many years and they drop unused words in favor of making room for new ones (just think of all the new words we have that weren't around 20 years ago!) Samuel Johnson's Dictionary is also useful. His was published before the OED, but iirc, he also notes his opinions of meaning at times, instead of what might be common usage. I haven't looked at Project Gutenberg to see if he's listed there, but it might be worth checking. New reprints of his work get mixed reviews, and are only selections. But they are a start. *s*

Also, an earlier source for understanding and learning penmanship is George Bickham's "Pennmanship Made Easy (Young Clerk's Assistant)", originally published in 1733. It's available as a reprint from Dover.

OK, I'll shut up now. My English Major button got pushed ;-)

There is a company called Walden Fonts, where you can get period fonts for your computer. Their explanation for the long s and ligature is provided in the "downloads" section under "minuteman printshop manual". I was going to cut and paste the quote, giving them credit, but it's not possible. So you have to go to their website to see it here: http://www.waldenfont.com/

It's worth checking out, as they give a fairly decent overview of the subject. They even provide sample downloads. And the clip art in the Minuteman Printshop package is worth a look.

This subject was turned into a dead horse and beaten to a bloody pulp in another forum when this computerized font was first made available, the general consensus was that it was a reliable set of "rules", based on other research that was available at the time. Hope this helps.

Jen

Have you done any fire irons? I'm looking for someone to make a Scappi type spit (kind of looks like a metal swing set with hooks down the uprights to hold the spit).

Ooh, and the 18C strikers are gorgeous!