Ivan Henry aka Moose

The Knight Parade in Ybor is February 9th.

Ore fun in my opinion than the more publicized day parade.

Day parade or Knight Parade? Both?

http://www.hermitage...tsar/images.htm

There is a picture of Peter's hat. I wonder is it the same than this.... it looks different and darker but I wonder how many hats Peter even had http://www.ivanhenry...age37_177_1.png

WOW! Great find! That answers a lot of questions I had - like how do you keep a band or ribbon on one of these. I am not certain that this hat at the Hermitage is any different than the one in the reference I posted. They both are knit, tall and have a brim.

Cornelis van Wieringen, Battle of Gibralter 1607, 1622, detail_02

I really like looking at the difference between sailors and musketeers. — at Het Scheepvaartmuseum.

There are drawings/sketches by a hyrographer named Duplesis travelling with a French expedition north along the Pacific coast of South America in 1700. Three of those color drawings show tall boots over the knee. In the Time-Life Seafarers series of books in tThe Pacific Navigators volume, beginning on pp. 66-67, the first picture shows two french seamen wearing the tall boots ashore. I posted these several years ago and they may still be here somehwere. Pg.69 has another color drawing showing one of the crew wearing these tall boots as well. It should be noted though that none of the drawings that show men using the boats are wearing boots. Most are barefoot.

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Duplesis was adamant that his drawings were perfect. While they're were "boots" in his drawings, don't forget there were also guys in shoes and the boots do not resemble riding / bucket boots. Duplesis work is one of a few if not the only reference to anything other than the aforementioned Spanish Sea Boots.

I personally believe that bucket boots on GAOP pirates might have been a manifestation of the mid 1600's when bucket boots were fashionable and worn by officer / soldiers, mounted troops and the public. This topic will probably live on forever!

A recent visit to the Maritime Museum in Amsterdam pretty much ended the shoes or no shoes in the rigging debate for me....

Abraham Storck, 1687

and earlier than GAOP but... Cornelis van Wieringen, Battle of Gibralter 1607, 1622

I don't stop by here very often, and its a shame...

But

Ivan Henry, you look awesome!

Keep up the good work!

PS

Notice cool PTG hat on my Avatar! Kristy Buckland made it for me about 7 years ago or so... Yeah, before it was cool!

Why thanks - I am humbled...

How many times has someone been shot accidentally and the shooter says, "I thought it was unloaded." To me, and this is my opinion, a real gun is a real gun and a functioning flinter is no different than a glock in that respect. I was taught never to point a gun at anyone unless you intend to shoot them. Now, different cultures have different practices.... I just returned from an event in Holland. One of my fellow musketeers from Spain was standing behind me, matchlock primed and loaded with powder, pan cover closed with the burning match cord in the serpentine.... Oh, and the muzzle was right behind my grape. Yep. That is there "ready" for the second line. I changed positions and asked that they not put the match in the serpentine until right before firing. Sheesh!

Ahoy Shipmates!

I only drop by the Pyracy.com port occasionally, and one of the things I like to do is see how the state of authentic pirate re-enacting/lving history is doing. Some of you old deck hands are really plugging away at it and its impressive. Some of you new(er) folks, are standing on the shoulders of those that came before and are REALLY doing a top ship-shape job.

If I could be so bold, I'd love to have/see a thread in C-Twill for just those pictures of you guys in your "accurate", "authentic", "period correct" or whatever its called these days, pirate kits.

I know some of you aren't there yet..... BUT please post pictures of your "in progress" kits too!

YES - I know there are galleries and other threads on this site for pictures, but we usually have to sift through the pirate belly dancers, hollywierd skeleton pirates, and Jack Sparrow clones to get to the "autheticals". Not that there is anything WRONG with that stuff... the priate community is, after all, a big ol' sailing ship with plenty o' room for all types.

So... for the innaugal photo, and the picture that inspired this thread... I present somebody other than myself, as I can't seem to find any pics of me in my stuff... my avatar is all I can find.

Anyway.....

Ivan Henry... come on down, you are the next contestant on, "Man, your kit is AWESOME!"

I am humbled... Thank you so much!

Sillemans, Experiens, Men in a Boat Near Two Dutch Ships, 1652

Nooms, Reinier, Shipbuilding at Porto Santo Stefano, Italy, mid 17th Century

Ah... the tables are turned on our pirate...

Not a tourist but....

Isn't that basically just the But I stole 'em from a... argument?

I try never to tell anyone they should wear something or shouldn't because I like almost all of it. However, if you want to aim for being period correct, you have to present period proof of whatever it is you want to do. (And if you want to be really correct, that proof should really come from more than one independent source.)

But the nice thing is that you don't have to aim for period correctness if you don't want.

true - but then, you are not per say, a "reenactor....

To add to Foxe's comments.... I have been volunteering on the Santa Maria for 5 years now, and regularly climb (low) in the rigging. I've done it in shoes many times, and barefoot... ONCE... Never again.

While on shore planning a raid travelling thru undergrowth and brush if they could have gotten boots boots would have been worn.

I disagree with this... Strongly. Canvas is more readily available and cheaper than leather even in period, specially for sailors. Gaiters are starting to become commonplace by the 1690s, and likely earlier than that. Why wear expensive boots when even Dragoons (light cavalry) wear shoes and gaiters in the period? If you do any research on the military of the period (which I have done a lot of), you will find that pretty much only TRUE cavalry (as in heavy cavalry) wear boots. I know the 1699 Rene Desportes (sp?) painting show gaiters for the guy on a hunting trip. He's a gentleman who could likely afford boots and CHOSE shoes and gaiters over boots.

Historical evidence, critical analysis, and common logic all dictate (at this point) boots are an affectation of ego/pride in pirate re-creationists and have no real basis in history.

Francois Deportes - one of my favorites and the first thing that came to mind when I was reading the justification for boots while in the brush! Too funny MB!

And I wonder what is a shoe here is it a shoe with some sort of covering or is it in fact a boot (the navigator with loose cap and neckcloth) These are dutch sailors somewhere aroind 1690s. The facial hair gives also some food for thougth.

http://www.jpmaps.co...1cartouche.jpg

To me that looks like a completely unambiguous stocking worn under mules.

exactly the first thought that came to my mind.

"The great thing about pirate reenacting is that If you don't want to be historically accurate, you don't have to be."

In my humble opinion, one shouldn't call themselves a reenactor if an attempt isn't being made to be historically correct and be able to explain what you have on, head to toe. The exception would be one who is reenacting something historically inaccurate and state it as such. Otherwise you are having fun playing pirate, not reenacting. Just my two cents.

Only the boots are sold - other goodies still available but now with free shipping!

Just saw this and though not exactly the example I was talking about, it's still a functional weapon.

THose came from a particular factory that we don't use.

Swab has the booties! Sold!

and for no apparent reason, a annoyingly flexible man with a monkey!

I know you found it... But I'll raise you another old rag / hat / clothes crier.

Spoke too soon - Boots still available. Pirates! Sheesh!