capnwilliam Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 How many on the list tie nautical knots, whether to make things like fishing nets or decorative items, for your vessel (real seas or cyber seas), to keep the old craft alive, or why-ever? Capt. William "The fight's not over while there's a shot in the locker!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Deacon Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 I'm just starting to learn. I have a hard time with most knot books as the illustrations are usually crude and the shading in the graphics are off at times. I'm looking for one that has photographs as well as illustrations. Think it would help. But I'm gettting there. There is an international knot tiers guild I understand. -------------- "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty well preserved piece without an even a kiss your hand, but to skid across the line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, smelling of powder, shouting ARRRG!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastie04 Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 First of all, define a nautical knot. Probably everyone here can tie a reef knot (commonly known on land as a square knot). That aside, I do a bit of fancywork from time to time, as well as functional lashings and such while on the Lady Washington. Coastie She was bigger and faster when under full sail With a gale on the beam and the seas o'er the rail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 All I can tie is a square knot/reef knot, sheet bend, bowline, sheep shank, clove hitch, and cow hitch. And I can only tie the bowline by the lubber's method, not the sailor's method. I learned a roband knot once, the kind they used to tie sails to the yards, but I forgot how. I own an Encyclopedia of Knots, which has lots of neat knots in it that I don't know how to tie. One of the neatest I think was called the thief knot, which leaves two ends, one secure and one not secure. So you can tie it at the top of a wall or cliff, throw both ends down, climb down the secure end, and then jerk on the insecure end to undo the knot and bring your rope with you. Unfortunately, I never learned to tie it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Lasseter Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Aye Lad, I'm a fair hand at Seamans knots... not all of them, and I'm a bit rusty on the more complicated ones... Half of them I can tie in my sleep, but I never remember the names of them! The books on knot tying, some are good, some are found wanting... I own one... the rest of my knowledge comes from sailing an' seamanship manuals... and a bit of actual use... Truly, D. Lasseter Captain, The Lucy Propria Virtute Audax --- In Hoc Signo Vinces Ni Feidir An Dubh A Chur Ina Bhan Air "If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me." Deuteronomy 32:41 Envy and its evil twin - It crept in bed with slander - Idiots they gave advice - But Sloth it gave no answer - Anger kills the human soul - With butter tales of Lust - While Pavlov's Dogs keep chewin' - On the legs they never trust... The Seven Deadly Sins http://www.colonialnavy.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pirata Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Are you talking about a nautical knot or a knot? I mean remember the golden rule for either, "If you can't tie a knot, tie a lot." Save you this can!!! What knot specifically are you looking for? Bowline, bowline on a bite, French bowline, sheet bend, figure eight, clove hitch, stopper hitch, doubler carrick bend, etc.... I mean the sky is the limit. You want splices? Short splice, back splice, eye splice, long splice, molly hogan splice, liverpool (hopefully not = royal pain in the butt to do) splice, etc... Pushing the limits means getting out of my comfort zone and giving more when I don't think I have any left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 more than a few.......and with the book open........ ......from scouts to macrame' to knotted bottles and such...... oriental jewelry, frogs for clothing....... and knot boards...probably not of them would hold up to the job intended at sea.........but they look good ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captweaver65 Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 I love knots!!! :) I can tie a good number of both functional and decorative knots by memory and just about any that I have a diagram for. my favorites are the pretty fancywork;monkey fist,turk's head,diamond,wall,and various sennits and whippings. also have a fondness for button knots and lanyard "samplers". I am lousy at full splicing though... need more practice. Capt Weaver "No man will be a sailor who has contrivance enough to get himself into a jail; for being in a ship is being in a jail, with the chance of being drowned. A man in jail has more room, better food, and commonly better company. " Dr. Samuel Johnson Capt Weaver's Pirate Perversions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pirata Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 whippings Ye like whippings??? Pushing the limits means getting out of my comfort zone and giving more when I don't think I have any left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endkaos Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 I can tie the basic knots of square, figure eight, bowline, etc. I'm more into being at sea than tieing fancy knots. It's about what gets me out to sea the fastest and safest. ~Tori Like any unmanned ship, a novice sailor will eventually steer into the wind and then in circles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captweaver65 Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 whippings Ye like whippings??? of course I like whippings in both knots and on the backs of the deserving :) Capt Weaver "No man will be a sailor who has contrivance enough to get himself into a jail; for being in a ship is being in a jail, with the chance of being drowned. A man in jail has more room, better food, and commonly better company. " Dr. Samuel Johnson Capt Weaver's Pirate Perversions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Royaliste Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 DUHH!!...The obvious, I tie 'em all, for every reason; riggers as me day job, 18th century vessel for a home, several sailing rigs, and 'o course plenty 'o marlinspike seamanship to embellish the above...On a 'name game', when ye all tie the 'Mast hitch', used to erect masts and provide three guy points, also providing the first working guy in the process, gimmee a call...you hit the big time!!!! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumba Rue Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 Well I may not be good a the proper nautical knots, but when I gots me a man in me clutches, he's tied up so good, he'll never get free. LOL! RumbaRue **Nine out of ten men who have tried camels, prefer women** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Doyle Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 I've always wanted to have a better knowledge of knots, so I may have to find me a book on the topic one of these days and learn. Never know when it could come in handy. :) I am now "Captain Charlotte Savvy." Sorry for any confusion -- I'll only be making this user-name change this once! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnwilliam Posted December 7, 2003 Author Share Posted December 7, 2003 Charlotte, there are a lot of good books in print on the subject of knot tying. I have a couple. Only problem I have, as with most things, is sitting still long enough to work on it (whether "it" be tying knots, making a powder horn, practicing making fire with flint and steel...) Where/when I'll find the time, I'll never know; but then, I'll never know how that pirate in yer picture manages to keep his hands to himself! Capt. William "The fight's not over while there's a shot in the locker!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnwilliam Posted December 7, 2003 Author Share Posted December 7, 2003 There's also - believe it or not - a group out there called The International Guild of Knot Tyers. Check out their site, and you will get more info than you ever wanted or thought existed on the subject. Capt. William "The fight's not over while there's a shot in the locker!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viperpirate Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Since I be tryin to get a coast guard capt license, I have to know about 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbados Jack Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 Mates; While ponderin on this knot issue and sailin the web I came across a site of interest. http://www.northnet.org/ropeworks/text/arch.html It had a lot of interactive displays of several nautical knots. Barbados Jack **** When daylight fades, Darkness prevails**** ** Laissez Les Bon Temps Roulez ** " We sail within a vast sphere, Ever drifting in uncertainty, Driven from end to end" - Pascal- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptRehab Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 I am 4 hours into a 6 hour project of wrapping the 26" wheel of my 29' sailboat with 1/8" dacron in a series of half hitches. When complete I will tie a turk's head knot to mark where the rudder is centered. Is that salty enough? I also spliced all new halyards, sheets, and painters for my little 13' peapod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Salem Bob' Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 A person on a sailing vessel who couldn't tie a good dozen knots would be as useful as a pack of clergymen or farmers. Everyone aboard had to learn - nobody was immune from going into the tops in an emergency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pirata Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 I am 4 hours into a 6 hour project of wrapping the 26" wheel of my 29' sailboat with 1/8" dacron in a series of half hitches. When complete I will tie a turk's head knot to mark where the rudder is centered. Is that salty enough? I also spliced all new halyards, sheets, and painters for my little 13' peapod. All of the Army boat I have been on over the years have the distinct pleasure of having all handrails and wheels wrapped with parachute cord. I must say that it's a very long process and you do end up losing a great deal of skin off your hands however the results look awsome. Pushing the limits means getting out of my comfort zone and giving more when I don't think I have any left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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