Sir Beachem Quick Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Flintlock Holster For those who may be interested. Sir Beachem Quick, Captain of the . . . . . . a small but dangerous crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Flint Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Yarr! Such a beautiful thing I ne'r did see before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarborMaster Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Gotcha., I am not Lost .,I am Exploring. "If you give a man a fire, he will be warm for a night, if you set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjohn Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Except... the existing pirate holsters recovered from the wreck of the Whydah are not like these. The Whydah holsters cover the entire length of the pistol. My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall Paul Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Except... the existing pirate holsters recovered from the wreck of the Whydah are not like these. The Whydah holsters cover the entire length of the pistol. I was going to ask what the provanence for pistol holsters like this was. After all, belt hooks seem to be the preferred method for carrying pistols in a maritime context during this period of history, and in pictures from this time, they are nothing more than anonymous loops of leather on the cartrige box strap. But, I guess that this answers my question. Do you have any pictures of the Whydah holsters, BlackJohn? Also, what size pistol were the holsters for? I suspect that belthooks were used on bigger pistols, whilst holsters were more suitable for smaller, Queen Anne type pistols. But this is just a supposition, so surviving holsters would help to support or disprove this theory. Cpt "Tall Paul" Adams Colchester Historical Enactment Society (C.H.E.S.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjohn Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjohn Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 http://www.piratebrethren.com/whydah/Whyda...h_Pistol_2.jpeg That's one of the pics I have, kindly supplied to me by the folks at the Whydah. I should have some more somewhere, pics I took myself. If memory serves, this particular pistol is the one with the silk ribband wrapped around it. It's in a leather holster. And I believe the holster is lined with linen. I seem to recall they had at least one or two more sitting in tanks being preserved. As you can see from the ruler, this is a decent sized pistol. My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall Paul Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Thanks for that BlackJohn, very interesting. It is a pity that there isn't more detail in the photograph. From what I can make out, the construction is very similar to that of Cavalry saddle holsters from the same period. Is there any sort of belt loop on the back? Are there any plans to publish an arceological report with line drawings? and if so, When? Cpt "Tall Paul" Adams Colchester Historical Enactment Society (C.H.E.S.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Story Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 http://www.bbc.co.uk/bristol/content/artic...d_feature.shtml Blackbeard's baldrick, 2nd photo in article Dances for nickels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut-throat Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Here's another of Blackbeard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut-throat Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Here's another. It's hard to make out the pistols but they're there, hanging from the front of his baldric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentleman of Fortune Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 So far, I have resisted the temptation to say "Which Period?" in reply to this thread. Sadly, I cannon hold back any longer. Greg aka GoF Come aboard my pirate re-enacting site http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/ Where you will find lots of information on building your authentic Pirate Impression! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall Paul Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 If we are talking about The Whydah, I would think that we would be circa 1717. At any rate, the Golden Age of Pyracy, ie the last decade of the 17th Century, and the first 20 years of the 18th Century would be a fair bet. Cpt "Tall Paul" Adams Colchester Historical Enactment Society (C.H.E.S.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjohn Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 http://www.bbc.co.uk/bristol/content/artic...d_feature.shtmlBlackbeard's baldrick, 2nd photo in article Wow, they had cameras during the Golden Age of Piracy!!! I had no idea! Again, what's the provenance of these? As fas as I'm concerned, they've just copied a bad pirate reenactor cliche. My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjohn Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Here's another. It's hard to make out the pistols but they're there, hanging from the front of his baldric. This is exactly what I believe the Whyhad holsters are like - a little leather bucket sewn to a baldric. My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjohn Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Here's another of Blackbeard Again, more of the same, a full-length holster covering the pistol. My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt. Alva Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 I absolutely love how so many people claim Blackbeard as their own..... Bristol claims him because he was born there North Carolina claims him because he died there Virginia Claims him because he lived there he truly is a worldly pirate! "Disobediant Monkeys will be shot, Disobediant Undead Monkeys will be shot repeatedly until morale improves" "They Says Cap'n Alva went funny in the head and turned to Cannibalism while marooned on a peninsula."- Overheard in a nearby camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Midnight Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Aye, Blackbeard truly belongs to all who love him... :) "Now then, me bullies! Would you rather do the gallows dance, and hang in chains 'til the crows pluck your eyes from your rotten skulls? Or would you feel the roll of a stout ship beneath your feet again?" ---Captain William Kidd--- (1945) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Flint Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Arrgh! I want one O' them things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjohn Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 I want a correct one. My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 I found these, but they're still an adaptation of cavalry pistol buckets. Yo ho ho! Or does nobody actually say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjohn Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Oooohhh, Jack... now we are getting somewhere! Those are very interesting. My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 I've bought almost all of my kit's leather goods from Dorsett House, and I've been impressed with every item. :) Yo ho ho! Or does nobody actually say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Story Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Considering the number of horse pistols that saw nautical service, here's some pommel holsters http://www.history.org/Foundation/journal/...ler_pistols.jpg Dances for nickels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Midnight Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 I want a correct one. Me too. I think the closest to correct and the best (in my opinion) shown so far are the pommel holsters Story has posted. I wouldn't think it unfathomable to have such holsters (or at least one, which is probably what I will end up doing) attached to a baldric. Don't know if it was done, but they certainly would have had the baldric, as well as that type of holster available to them, so it seems reasonable at least, what with no real conclusive evidence as to how they were carried... "Now then, me bullies! Would you rather do the gallows dance, and hang in chains 'til the crows pluck your eyes from your rotten skulls? Or would you feel the roll of a stout ship beneath your feet again?" ---Captain William Kidd--- (1945) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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