Gentleman of Fortune Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I have contacted a shoe manufacturer (in Canada) who can make a Straight lasted early 18th Century shoe. His claim is that he can make a Sarah Juniper Shoe at a C&D Jarnagin price. If you would like to see some shoes from these makers, go HERE These shoes would be mostly machine stitched but vegetable tan leather and all the correct details for the period. Cost would be $135 (without buckles) and would be paid half upfront and half at delivery. we would need 30 orders to move ahead.... anyone interested? GoF Come aboard my pirate re-enacting site http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/ Where you will find lots of information on building your authentic Pirate Impression! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Brand Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 (raises hand) Aye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick MacAnselan Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Me too. The Dread Pyrate MacAnselan aka Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 I didnt see on the site, maybe i wasnt looking hard enough, but if they are available in wide sizes, I am all in. - 10 Fathoms Deep on the Road to Hell... Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Rum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oderlesseye Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 His waiting list is about 6-7 months long So says his web site.. :) http://www.myspace.com/oderlesseyehttp://www.facebook....esseye?ref=nameHangin at Execution dock awaits. May yer Life be a long and joyous adventure in gettin there!As he was about to face the gallows there, the pirate is said to have tossed a sheaf of papers into the crowd, taunting his audience with these final words: "My treasure to he who can understand." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentleman of Fortune Posted December 18, 2005 Author Share Posted December 18, 2005 At this point, i have sent him pictures of period shoes including the one from the Whydah wreck see below... sexy ain't it.... I am waiting for more pictures and possible diagrams from the Whydah museum. The goal is to provide the ONLY replica GAoP shoe... The process is this. If you are even slightly interested, let me know. But if you are 90% sure you would like to order, then really let me know (go to my website and click the comments link) He is going to work up a sample from our specifications. He will send it to me and I will post pictures for comment. We will need half upfront as, quoting from one of his e-mails To make these economically I use cutting dies and a large hyraulic cutting press. For a new style the costs for dies is approx 2 grand, Approx 4 days time doing pattern work. New lasts to match you specs $30 a pair I have to order minimum 50 pair. and (which answeres deadeyes' question) I can give you the same shoe as Sarah Juniper ( machine stitched) at the same price as Jarnigan. two widths (reccomend D and EEE) in full range of sizes 7 to 14.including half sizes After the example is made and approved, its just a matter of getting 30 willing to spend $135. If you know of anyone who might be interested, pass on the word and have them e-mail me. He estimates for time: Q:After the green light, how long would it be before delivery? A:FOR THE FIRST BATCH PROBALY 8 WEEKS PLUS, BY THE TIME WE DO THE SAMPLE WORK WITH YOU, HAVE THE LASTS MADE AND GET THEM PRODUCED. AFTER THAT APPROX 3-4 WEEKS FOR A HALF DOZEN PAIR Come aboard my pirate re-enacting site http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/ Where you will find lots of information on building your authentic Pirate Impression! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Hand Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 GoF.... when is he going to start making the shoes? (And when do you need the 50% deposite?) My brogans are starting to fall apart (the leather is tearing, so I can't resew or glue them back together again...... but hey...they lasted over 10 years....) But my cash flow gets messed up at times, so an aproxamate schedule of production so I can figure out if I can get a pair...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 Thank you for the info, GoF, but i must also raise one more question... His colonial Buckle shoe sells for $109 on the web site. Why the 20$ price hike? is that going to include shipping as well? forgive me for being a penny-pincher, but times are tough now.. TIA - 10 Fathoms Deep on the Road to Hell... Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Rum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentleman of Fortune Posted December 18, 2005 Author Share Posted December 18, 2005 Deadeye: I was asking the same thing.... so don't feel too bad. The cost for the shoes reflect an increase in the costs for him to have the lasts and dies made. He will offer many sizes of shoes, 7-14 including half sizes in D widths and EEE widths (we can get any widths, but these are the most common) and that is 64 lasts (32 pairs) lasts. His supplier has raised prices since the other shoes were made. Patrick I understand the money issue... and Christmas is not the best time to try and justify $135 bucks for shoes. I would imagine that the timing is a matter of how many "serious" commitments I can collect. A lot of it comes down to the last thing (by the way, for folks who don't know what I am talking about, a last is a wooden "mold" that the shoe is built onto). His supplier of last is a commercial venture as well, that has a minimum order of 50. We can't start any of the production run shoes until all the lasts are recived. We are going to work on the sample now so that I can get a shoe quickly so that folks will have an idea of what they will be getting. Once he gets the orders and the 1/2 deposit, he will get the lasts made and start production. His estimate is 8 weeks from the deposit for the initial batch (I am not sure how many that is yet) and then about 6 pairs per month after that. I will post the information as I get it, but if you have questions, let me know. I am guessing that with re-enactors as slow to commit and pay as they are, if we could get this started by February, we would be doing good. GoF Come aboard my pirate re-enacting site http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/ Where you will find lots of information on building your authentic Pirate Impression! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sawney Beane Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 I would be in for a pair of 14's. Beane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentleman of Fortune Posted December 23, 2005 Author Share Posted December 23, 2005 Part of the start up cost involve buying/having made about 32 shoe lasts. This is because he will make shoe sizes 7-14 in D and EEE widths (including half sizes). So I says to myself... "hey now, we can save some money buy not offering bizzarre shoes sizes. I mean, what re-enactor has a size 14 foot!" And then Captain Sawney comes walking in the door! If this shoe deal happens, you will get your 14s. You better order 2 pair though incase it doesn't happen again! GoF Come aboard my pirate re-enacting site http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/ Where you will find lots of information on building your authentic Pirate Impression! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 I'd be interested in getting a pair, sir. Toss my tricorn into the ring and let me know what you need and when. -- Hurricane -- Hurricane ______________________________________________________________________ http://piratesofthecoast.com/images/pyracy-logo1.jpg Captain of The Pyrates of the Coast Author of "Memoirs of a Buccaneer: 30 Year Before the Mast" (Published in Fall 2011) Scurrilous Rogue Stirrer of Pots Fomenter of Mutiny Bon Vivant & Roustabout Part-time Carnival Barker Certified Ex-Wife Collector Experienced Drinking Companion "I was screwed. I readied my confession and the sobbing pleas not to tell my wife. But as I turned, no one was in the bed. The room was empty. The naked girl was gone, like magic." "Memoirs of a Buccaneer: 30 Years Before the Mast" - Amazon.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Morgan Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Yup, I'm in... for anyone out there wondering about quality and accuracy, I've a pair of Mr Land's Rev War shoes and they are spot on, and made with great quality and attention to detail... Once again, I'm in, 9 1/2 E Touche' Ship's Marksman & Crab Fiend Pyrates of the Coast "All the skill in the world goes out the window if an angel pisses in the flintlock of your musket." "Florida points like a guiding thumb, To the southern isles of rumba and rum, To the mystery cities and haunted seas, Of the Spanish Main and the Caribbees..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 I figured you'd be in there Capt. Morgan. They are pretty footies, aren't they? I see you've achieved fiend status as well. Welcome aboard all fiends. Your fellow fiend and friend, -- Hurricane -- Hurricane ______________________________________________________________________ http://piratesofthecoast.com/images/pyracy-logo1.jpg Captain of The Pyrates of the Coast Author of "Memoirs of a Buccaneer: 30 Year Before the Mast" (Published in Fall 2011) Scurrilous Rogue Stirrer of Pots Fomenter of Mutiny Bon Vivant & Roustabout Part-time Carnival Barker Certified Ex-Wife Collector Experienced Drinking Companion "I was screwed. I readied my confession and the sobbing pleas not to tell my wife. But as I turned, no one was in the bed. The room was empty. The naked girl was gone, like magic." "Memoirs of a Buccaneer: 30 Years Before the Mast" - Amazon.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callenish gunner Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 i might be interested in a pair as well and probably a pair for my son too ....if the last be generous a 14EEE might just do me ....i be stable on deck and swim like a sealion in the water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sawney Beane Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 At 6'6" 14's are dainty at best. Beane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sawney Beane Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I was wishing 30 would tail in so we could start these shoes. My 14's ain't gettin' none smaller. Beane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackfoot Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Alright! Twist me arm. Throw me lot into th' bucket. Anythin' t' support me swabbie pyrates. ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentleman of Fortune Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 I have about 14 folks that are interested. We will be working on the sample shoe in January, and when done, I hope we can drum up another 20 quickly. Will keep you posted! GoF Come aboard my pirate re-enacting site http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/ Where you will find lots of information on building your authentic Pirate Impression! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I take it you are referring to the very last pair pictured and not any of those above, such as the earlier court shoes? Just to clarify. I need the earlier shoes. "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 :) aaaaaaaaaaaalrighty then - shoes he 'as? Shoes I be need'n. How about a goodly pair o' 9 1/2 EEEE's. How be the parley for time of 1/2 down and all that. From departure (order placed) to port - how long before they arrive? And fergive this one - what color are they??? I stomped around Hampton' Blackbeard fest this past summer in bare feet - I don't want to repeat that. Willie the rumrunner You can ner' have enough sand in yer stew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentleman of Fortune Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 By the "last pair down" are you reffering to the Whydah shoe that i posted a thumbnail of? If you need an Early 18th late 17th style court shoe, I suggest Sarah Juniper, or Bjarne's boots (you can find a link to their websites at gentlemenoffortune.com under sailors kit... If you need an early shoe like that, you are going to have to have it hand made for you. I don't think I could get 15 people interested in that shoe, let alone 30. As for "regular" sailor/pirate, I don't think we could ask for a better shoe to copy, since its from Sam Bellamy's wreck. But maybe with Reconstructing History's new line of Gentlemen's coats, there will be more of an interest in a Gentlemen's shoe. GoF PS Good luck. Come aboard my pirate re-enacting site http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/ Where you will find lots of information on building your authentic Pirate Impression! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 But maybe with Reconstructing History's new line of Gentlemen's coats, there will be more of an interest in a Gentlemen's shoe.GoF PS Good luck. yeah at roughly $5-600 dollars a pair, I'll need all the luck I can get.... "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentleman of Fortune Posted January 7, 2006 Author Share Posted January 7, 2006 Hey, if you can find 30 other folks... make that 28 cause I will get "another" pair of shoes too, then we can move forward on a late 17th C pair of gentlemen's shoe group buy. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to piss in your cheerio bowl or nothing, but most folks could care less what their shoes look like (that is are correct or not). Spending $500 on a pistol is no problem. $300 on a pair of shoes is insanity to them. That is why I am hoping that $135 will hit the sweet spot. GoF Come aboard my pirate re-enacting site http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/ Where you will find lots of information on building your authentic Pirate Impression! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Brand Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 I need to get exact measurements for my odd feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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