TalesOfTheSevenSeas Posted August 8, 2003 Posted August 8, 2003 I know that in France they used to brand thieves with a letter "V" on the forearm. The V stood for voleur, the French word for theif. Children caught stealing would get off "lightly" with this punishment for a first offense. On the second offense they would lose their hand. I noted that in Pirates of the Caribbean, Johnny Depp was branded with a letter P for pirate on his forearm and that this was supposedly done by the East India Company. Is there any basis for this in history? -Claire "Poison Quill" Warren Pyrate Mum of Tales of the Seven Seas www.talesofthesevenseas.com
John Maddox Roberts Posted August 8, 2003 Posted August 8, 2003 The Depp brand seems unlikely. Branding was for minor offenses. A man convicted of piracy was hanged. Why brand him first?
the Royaliste Posted August 8, 2003 Posted August 8, 2003 I kinda thunk it was more generic, like 'prisoner'...
Capt. Flint Posted August 8, 2003 Posted August 8, 2003 While it is true, that most men convicted of piracy were hanged; there were many instances where thier sentences were commuted. There is also historical record of branding being used for convicted pirates that were not given the death sentence. It is in fact true that a "P" brand would be applied for all the world to see that they were dealing with a pirate. Many pirates were sent in chains to be used as forced labor on ships or in various prison plantations. (for lack of a better description) The idea of a brand was also used in some cases, in case the prisoner were to escape. This way the pirate was marked and more easily recognized for re-capture.. I'll try to remember to look up the books later that document this and post them for all of you........ The Capt.
Mad Maudlin McCrumb Posted August 8, 2003 Posted August 8, 2003 Of course an "R" brand on yer heinie means ye've been hanging out with Royaliste while he's been shooting of his guns and got a bit too frisky! "You have a woman's skin, m'lord! I'll wager that hides never been rubbed with salt and flayed off to make stockin's for a pirates best cabin boy!"
Rosalinda Posted August 8, 2003 Posted August 8, 2003 Of course an "R" brand on yer heinie means ye've been hanging out with Royaliste while he's been shooting of his guns and got a bit too frisky! With a red hot poker!
the Royaliste Posted August 8, 2003 Posted August 8, 2003 Hmmmm, pretty hot 'poker', but I wouldn't call it 'red' (blush)
Mad Maudlin McCrumb Posted August 8, 2003 Posted August 8, 2003 Hmmmm, pretty hot 'poker', but I wouldn't call it 'red' (blush) Now 'tis! Heehee "You have a woman's skin, m'lord! I'll wager that hides never been rubbed with salt and flayed off to make stockin's for a pirates best cabin boy!"
Rosalinda Posted August 8, 2003 Posted August 8, 2003 Keep the poker in the fire long enought and it'll turn red. I guarantee it...
the Royaliste Posted August 8, 2003 Posted August 8, 2003 Well, I run it inta the 'fridge one nite, and it still wasn't red, but I'll try ye'r advice when opportunity presents herself..... P.S. in the tat thread, ye can see a rendition of said-poker/and the heart break after in my shoulder...devil's in the details...Pyrate Queens hand rests on dagger...check out the pommel...is it me poker, or me broken heart?
Rosalinda Posted August 8, 2003 Posted August 8, 2003 GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY! Upon closer inspection of said skin art, my computer fried and I had to reboot!!!!!!!
the Royaliste Posted August 8, 2003 Posted August 8, 2003 Yeah, I'll not take Viagra again fer a mite! .....Strange stuff, didn't even care!
Rosalinda Posted August 9, 2003 Posted August 9, 2003 My instincts are tellin' me you probably don't need it anyway!
Capt. Flint Posted August 9, 2003 Posted August 9, 2003 Rosalinda and Royalist..... If and when you two actually meet "face to face" God help ye both. It will either be the biggest tease and let down, or you'll sink the whole damn boat. Either way... have fun.. Capt. Flint
Rosalinda Posted August 10, 2003 Posted August 10, 2003 MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S A MIRACLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the Royaliste Posted August 10, 2003 Posted August 10, 2003 :) And just for clarification, it is a cannon in me pocket, an' I'm not happy to see anybody today! Rosalinda, it was a scientific waste of a glass of beer and a swallow.... :) Flint- aw ,we'll ne'er hook up, so this keeps it fun..
Mad Maudlin McCrumb Posted August 10, 2003 Posted August 10, 2003 Dirty old man... not that I'M complainin'! "You have a woman's skin, m'lord! I'll wager that hides never been rubbed with salt and flayed off to make stockin's for a pirates best cabin boy!"
Rosalinda Posted August 23, 2003 Posted August 23, 2003 I'm ready for a good brandin', too. Let the wailin' begin!
BatSpell Posted August 23, 2003 Posted August 23, 2003 Pause My Friend, As You Pass By. -As You Are, So Once Was I. -As I Am, So Shall You Be. -Prepare You Then, To Follow Me. (written on a gravestone)
Rosalinda Posted August 23, 2003 Posted August 23, 2003 Sorry Batspell, I just had to go back and "PG-up" that post of mine! A little more info than needed by the general pyratical public...
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