Arrrrgh ...a lamentation

[DocF225]

Wishin I was someplace with more pyratical things to do. I live near the "Mighty Hudson" in an area full of history from the correct era but nothing even remotely Pyratical here. Looks like I have to travel Eastward or Southward.

Wish I hadn't sold me boat........

[Kuthroat Kim]

No worries mate. Keep lookin and I'm sure you'll find some other pirates in yer waters. :)

[Katherine "Kat" Adams]

aye... Doc I do understand what you are saying. I be from central PA... not exactly the history rich area ye be from, and nothing pyratical at all here. The closest Ren Faire be an hour and a half drive.

[Eithne_MacEwan]

Aye, I hail from the Sooner State. Oklahoma, for those of you who've forgotten. Not too much Pyratical here, aside from the occational watching of Pirates of the Carribean. An' o' course therin be always the SCAdian Variety...

:)

[PyratePhil]

I live near the "Mighty Hudson" in an area full of history from the correct era...

Aye, I were born 'n' raised on th' banks...well, not exactly "on the banks", but ye know what I be meanin'...o' the mighty Hudson...

Ye could always be fishin' fer boots 'n' tires 'n' body parts 'n' such...

[Dream Wench]

I wish I had a small caravan of Pirates. We would travel in RV's...fittted with Jolly Rogers...have campfires, and attend faires coast to coast. We could sell our wares....an camp near bodies o water..(.if they don't charge a yard arm...a leg, and a torso)....some o these tourist places be greedy, an' borin' as 'ell. I have always enjoyed off tha beaten path...meself..

[Iron Bess]

I wish I had a small caravan of Pirates. We would travel in RV's...fittted with Jolly Rogers...have campfires, and attend faires coast to coast. We could sell our wares....an camp near bodies o water..(.if they don't charge a yard arm...a leg, and a torso)....some o these tourist places be greedy, an' borin' as 'ell. I have always enjoyed off tha beaten path...meself..

LOL!!!!

With the price of gas these days lassie we would HAVE to be Pirates to set sail on the asphalt seas!!!!

[Rumba Rue]

I certianly agree with you Iron Bess! The cost of gas here in Calif. is sky high! More than the rest of the states! T'was edging pretty close to $3.00 a gallon a week ago at least here in San Diego! My last look is t'was down to $2.21 this week, at the owner stations, the major ones were still hitting $2.49.

I try not to let the gas gauge on my truck get below half, cuz otherwise it will cost me probably over $40.00 to fill it up!

As for traveling about like 'Ded Heads' of the Grateful Dead, sorry, I'm not with it or for it. Most places won't let you set up 'shop' and sell without a seller's permit/license required by each city/state. It gets way too complicated to bother with. And forget selling in parking lots of fairs, you'll get your butt kicked off quickly.

Rumba Rue

**Older and Wiser**

[privateer]

it's only illegall if you get caught.

I've been thinking of taking a small sailboat up and down the west coast and hitting a few festivals on the trip. and the nice part is the winds free!!!

[DocF225]

Aye, I were born 'n' raised on th' banks...well, not exactly "on the banks", but ye know what I be meanin'...o' the mighty Hudson...

Ye could always be fishin' fer boots 'n' tires 'n' body parts 'n' such...

Been fishing for body parts in the river for years (I used to be a Diver with the Fire Dept.) Go out for Stripers a couple times a year.

I was First mate on a Dinner Cruise Boat for a couple summers (the city didn't pay it's uniformed employees too well).

Last spring, I allowed my beloved to talk me into selling my boat dang it all.....

[privateer]

ne'er give up the boat.

if'n all else goes ta blazes ya still have a place to lay yer head and a way ta unwind at the end of the day.

aah well if'n ya did fer yer love ........

I knew there was a reason I be single. no quarter given

[Deacon Frye]

Gleaned from the Internet:

Before the Civil War, the North River waterfront was known as Corlears Hook and was a red-light zone considered so dangerous that police never ventured there in groups of less than six. Corlears Hook had some of the city’s worst dives, patronized by sailors who were frequently robbed by criminal gangs. The gangs also preyed on harbor shipping. River pirates, such as those who comprised the Charlton Street Gang, led by former East Side barfly Sadie the Goat, plied the North River in rowboats. The Marginals, the Pearl Buttons and the infamous Hudson Dusters fought for control of the docks and waterfront streets when not engaging in lengthy drinking and dancing bacchanalia with dockside prostitutes. By 1916, the Marginals had won control of the riverfront.

(my italics)

http://www.hellskitchennyc.com/html/waterhistory.htm

Picture of Sadie: http://www.synarski.com/pages/sadie.html

"Hicks The Pirate" from 'Folk Songs Of New York' Folkways FH5276 (1966) - June Lazare.

From the sleeve notes:

The score of years that preceeded the Civil War the usually landlocked gangs turned their attention towards the waterfronts of New York. Gangs like the Hudson Dusters, the Gophers, & the Daybreak Boys worked the East River Piers while the Charlton Street Gang worked the Hudson Docks & so successful were they that they ran their own sloop as far up river as Poughkeepsie & becoming real River Pirates. Hicks was a gangster & not pirate was drugged & found himself shanghaied by a fellow free lancer. Upon waking he murdered the skipper & 2 young crew, in gruesome fashion. He was convicted of the triple murder & at the hanging the Peanut vendors & lemonade stands did a brisk business to the beat of the cheering & the fife & drum. His procession from jail to the gallows on Bedloe's Island took on the aspect of a circus & a general holiday atmosphere prevailed. Soon after he was buried his body was dug up by grave robbers & sold to medical students.

Hicks The Pirate - March, 1860

A mournful tale, heartrending

To you, kind friend, I will relate

The solemn truth intending

Of three met a tragic fate

An oyster sloop was sailing

Upon the ocean's spakling tide

In the healtful breeze regaling

She moved upon the waters wide

But upon this oyster vessel

A pirate bold had found his way

With wicked heart, this vassal

The captain & 2 boys did slay

He seized the gold & silver

Which this poor captain had in store

His watch & clothes did pilfer

While he lay struggling in his gore

He overboard soon threw them

The murdered boys & captain too

The briny deep enclosed them

And they were quickly gone from view

But the eye that never slumbers

Did follow the murder's track

And the vigilance of numbers

To justice brought the monster back

In a boat he left the vessel

When the wicked deed had done

And soon the murderous rascal

Had far into the country gone

He soon was overtaken

And to New York was brought again

A lonely wretch, forsaken

Who had the boys & captain slain

By a true & faithful jury

He was found guilty of the crime

Some raved & cursed like fury

But he had met his fate in time

Twixt heaven & earth suspended

On Bedloe's Island Hicks was hung

Some thousand there attended

To see the horrid murderer swung

http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=11091

In the "Golden Age", I believe Long Island, especially eastern Long Island, claimed a number of pirates among its residents.

Captain Kidd lived in Manhattan.

Much of the financing of piratical ventures came from New York.

During the Revolution, Long Island Sound was a hotbed of whaleboat warfare by both sides, technically privateering-but only by a fine line sometimes, and often just plain looting.

[DocF225]

ne'er give up the boat.

if'n all else goes ta blazes ya still have a place to lay yer head and a way ta unwind at the end of the day.

aah well if'n ya did fer yer love ........

I knew there was a reason I be single. no quarter given

twernt really for love, twer for peace.

the noble steed I used to tow 'er to and from the launch died a painful death and I had no way to get 'er back to the water. Me bride was tired of it being a "lawn ornament" and "asked" me to sell it.

Now as it gets warmer she's lamenting the loss o the vessel and the lazy weekends on the cool water.

I might start looking for a new, larger vessel and keep it at one of the marinas instead of trailering it home all the time.

[Captian Wolfy Wench]

Yer lucky you have history like that there! We here in CA have some history, but it's all Gold Rush era and stuff, nothin' remotely like what we want. However, we've got ren fairs like crazy, and many other piratical friends in the area, too!

I'm sure if you go to yoru nearest faire and look up groups online, you'll be bound to find someone near you! Cheers, mate!

Captain Wolfy Wench

[DocF225]

Yer lucky you have history like that there! We here in CA have some history, but it's all Gold Rush era and stuff, nothin' remotely like what we want. However, we've got ren fairs like crazy, and many other piratical friends in the area, too!

I'm sure if you go to yoru nearest faire and look up groups online, you'll be bound to find someone near you! Cheers, mate!

Captain Wolfy Wench

Interestingly enough this area was first "explored" by the Dutch. The Hudson River is named for Hendrik Hudson. The town where I live is the site of the Continental Army's last encampment and George Washington's last HQ. West Point is just 9 miles away.

Sadly, the local towns have no earthly Idea what they have if they'd just use it right.

Our local Ren Faire is a lost cause. I worked there for three summers when it was privately owned. The Faire rocked then. Now some "hospitality" company owns it and profit supercedes all other considerations.

They jacked the admission, drove out most of the small vendors, got rid of many of the signature events, and canned a bunch of the actors now it's more like a flea market.

The search continues...

[William Brand]

Start yer own pirate pub thar. Ye'll attract pirates like flies to rum in now time t'all.

Thars a little pirate in everyone. Arrr.

[Grendle]

"Thar be flies in me rum!"

Thas a crie to strike fear inter a pyrate's wizened black heart, t'be sure! Sharin' me grog wi' vermin be ... well, it be the normal course o'tings, but not flyin' vermin, usually.

[William Brand]

'Tis true, 'tis true. Aye.

More rum!

[Capt. Tarkanius De Morte']

Arrr LAd

You find your self a "reputable pub" and speak loud the tidings of the sweet trade! And how ye be missing the account. ye'll Fin ye mates ye after!

But bring enough for the bar tab!

Capt Tark