Commodore Swab Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 I am in the process of building a Spanish blunderbuss and thought I would share some of the steps I am going in the process. Sort of a "here's my project from start to finish" feel free to comment along the way. It all started when I found an original lock and purchased it. When looking at the lock I estimated it to be around 1720's (see thread on helping to ID a flintlock) for various reasons. As I have been unable to find any original examples of Spanish blunderbusses so I am taking a couple of liberties. I have decided on a simple flared design all in steel, the lock is rather plain and I plan on keeping the buss plain as well. As the lock is of French origin in design due to Spain's ruler if I were to build this as a common buss there would be little to distinguish it as Spanish once done. Cascabel made a wonderful suggestion to go with a Catalan styled stock and this is my intention. I am looking to build a larger buss and the barrel length will be around 20 inches overall length roughly 36 inches. As for caliber I am thinking of .75 which should pair with the lock very nicely. Here is a picture of the lock as well as my rough sketch of what the completed buss might look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Bo of the WTF co. Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Sweeeet! do you want a couple of my antique huge French amber musket flints to finish 'er off with? I won't be needing all that I bought I'm sure. If interested pm me with your addy and I'll send a few of the bigguns, along with a couple of English ones too. Theyre from the british armory in Nepal, supposed to be at least a couple-hundred years old. Bo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascabel Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 I am in the process of building a Spanish blunderbuss and thought I would share some of the steps I am going in the process. Sort of a "here's my project from start to finish" feel free to comment along the way. It all started when I found an original lock and purchased it. When looking at the lock I estimated it to be around 1720's (see thread on helping to ID a flintlock) for various reasons. As I have been unable to find any original examples of Spanish blunderbusses so I am taking a couple of liberties. I have decided on a simple flared design all in steel, the lock is rather plain and I plan on keeping the buss plain as well. As the lock is of French origin in design due to Spain's ruler if I were to build this as a common buss there would be little to distinguish it as Spanish once done. Cascabel made a wonderful suggestion to go with a Catalan styled stock and this is my intention. I am looking to build a larger buss and the barrel length will be around 20 inches overall length roughly 36 inches. As for caliber I am thinking of .75 which should pair with the lock very nicely. Here is a picture of the lock as well as my rough sketch of what the completed buss might look like. I like it !!! You will have a well-proportioned and unique piece when done. Carry on, sez I........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Swab Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share Posted April 27, 2011 Would love a couple of them thar flints. Thanks for ye approval on the rough design Cascabel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Bo of the WTF co. Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Would love a couple of them thar flints. Thanks for ye approval on the rough design Cascabel. Send me your adress and I'll mail you some. I should be able to come up with a half dozen thick ones from the batch I got. Bo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty spike Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Hey on your Spanish blunderbuss if you Look in The book "spanish military weapons in Colonial America 1700-1821" there are a couple of pics of original blunderbusses from the Ripoll arsenal. If you can't find the book Let me know and I will try to scan the pages for yo Rusty Spike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Swab Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share Posted April 27, 2011 I don't have that book so anything you might be able to scan would be helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Swab Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 Rusty Spike emailed me 3 pages and I have posted them here. The Catalan stock is what I am really interested in. The first step was to draw out the piece, I use autocad as it is easier to trace and scale drawings then print them up. Then check the lock for size and rough cut the stock. Next step is starting on the barrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes1761 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I am going to pick up some walnut, not sure if its black walnut or american or european? BUT, its about 2 feet wide, 5 feet long, and 4 inches thick...let me know if you need stock material. Its been sitting in a guys basement for around 10 years or so....... If it was raining soup, I'd be stuck outside with a fork..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Bo of the WTF co. Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 (edited) If ever I am wealthy enough to afford a custom built gun, I have wanted one of these Spanish Escopeta guns for years. I have posted some pictures to show the Catalan stock design The escopeta, a light, smoothbore, muzzle-loading musket or carbine was a popular weapon of the 18th century soldado de cuera. Made with a Spanish or miguelet lock and a Catalan stock, this sturdy and dependable weapon saw use for nearly 200 years on the northern frontier. There were many variations in barrel length, and stock design, but the miguelet lock was commonly used. In 1786, escopetas purchased for frontier use cost the Crown 6 pesos, 5 reales, 9 grains. The Model illustrated was made by Antonio Guisasola of Eibar, Spain, about 1800. It is caliber .75 with a Catalan stock and a 33 1/2-inch barrel. The quality of the piece indicates that it was carried by a gentleman or officer. Enjoy... ***I noticed that I had badly mis-spelled "Spanish" so I came back to correct that!*** Bo Edited April 29, 2011 by Capt. Bo of the WTF co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Swab Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 I like it as well although my heart as well as size restrictions are in favor of a blunderbuss. I spent several months living in Barcelona and that is the only portion of Spain I am familiar with so a Catalan gun holds a special part in my heart. Yesterday and today I worked on the barrel and got alot accomplished. Every time I look at the barrel in the lathe it looks just massive but then I go back to the drawing and know that the proportions are just right. Its going to work out being a little over 12 gauge but will fire a .75 cal ball with wadding just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Swab Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 I started work on the barrel and heres roughly how its gone so far . . . First was finding a good piece of "junk" Next involved turning down the outside And then the boring began . . . you can roughly see the length of the first bit here. I had to purchase another bit and almost double the length to get to where I needed to be After cutting the inside taper and finishing the bore, there is still much cleanup to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Swab Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 Today consisted of finishing off the barrel and pulling it out of the lathe (still alot of work to do on it). The barrel was then compared with the drawing along with the lock (I decided to make it a couple inches shorter) and the drawing cut out and traced onto the wood for the stock. The stock was cut out on the bandsaw and then put into the mill. In the mill I can true up and start to cut the stock for the barrel removing alot of wood but not all of it. The final inletting is done by hand. I left the camera at the shop so pictures may have to wait until Monday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Swab Posted May 2, 2011 Author Share Posted May 2, 2011 After cutting the barrel off I line it up with the lock and compare with the printout The printout is then cut out and traced onto the wood for the stock which is then cut out for the general shape. The stock was then put into the mill and the cutting started, first "truing up" on the sides of the barrel then rough cutting the barrel groove. This concludes Friday with a final shot of barrel lock and rough stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Swab Posted May 2, 2011 Author Share Posted May 2, 2011 During the weekend I was able to cut/grind out enough to get the lock to fit flat so it could be marked out. Before I did this I milled the area flat. I also left extra wood on the side, you can always take a litte more out but you cant add more in. Normally I would dismantle the lock to lay the plate flat but considering the age and that this lock is original I opted to leave wood so that I could grind then mill. The barrel slot was finished, after the milling I go over it with a sanding drum on a drill a little at a time rotating the barrel to find the high spots. The sanding drums are the best option I have found so far when dealing with a tapered blunderbuss barrel. The stock has been roughed into shape and the barrel fitted. I rough the stock using an angle grinder with a sanding pad, you must be careful as it is easy to "goof" and then go over with a random orbit and about 60 grit. This will deliver a relativly smooth shape but be sure enough wood is left on to go over with a much finer grit when completion is neared. and with the lock in place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Wow, she is just coming together beautifully. Thanks for letting us all follow the progress. -- Hurricane ______________________________________________________________________ http://piratesofthecoast.com/images/pyracy-logo1.jpg Captain of The Pyrates of the Coast Author of "Memoirs of a Buccaneer: 30 Year Before the Mast" (Published in Fall 2011) Scurrilous Rogue Stirrer of Pots Fomenter of Mutiny Bon Vivant & Roustabout Part-time Carnival Barker Certified Ex-Wife Collector Experienced Drinking Companion "I was screwed. I readied my confession and the sobbing pleas not to tell my wife. But as I turned, no one was in the bed. The room was empty. The naked girl was gone, like magic." "Memoirs of a Buccaneer: 30 Years Before the Mast" - Amazon.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Swab Posted May 2, 2011 Author Share Posted May 2, 2011 Today consisted of inletting on the mill to actually get the lock to fit and cutting the channel for the ramrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty spike Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 a thing of beauty is a joy forever and this will be one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Brand Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 I haven't been following this piece, so I was surprised to see so much of it completed. It's turning out fantastic. Â Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Swab Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 See what happens when you don't check in. True it may look like alot of work has been done but these are the "big steps" where the work done is noticable. Yesterday a friend tried some browning and was disgusted with it as it rusted everything overnight so he gave it to me. If this works the same then it should provide a little pitting that will then be cleaned up and done properly to match the age of the lock. Today I took the time to work on the stock and barrel then give them a coating to check color. As I thought the stock is much too light and I am going to have to see what I can do to darken it and the barrel turned out coppery in color so it will probably all get removed tomorrow. So far Im estimating 6 days at about 6 hours a day and at min wage which I believe is 7.25 here that works out to $260 in labor alone, compared with a $500 india blunderbuss you can see why Im building it for myself and can't afford to make something like this to sell. Anyways much much more work to go but here are some pictures from photobucket, Ill change them to my gallery here once its working again. First off the barrel cleaned up and sanded Putting on the browning (knowing its going to be sanded again And a few pictures of the "lock stock, and barrel" together. This is a good point to voice your opinions if I should change anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoD Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 thats awesome ...and then I discovered the wine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Swab Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 not quite the constructive critisim i was looking for but thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Midnight Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 not quite the constructive critisim i was looking for but thank you. In my own humble opinion, there is no criticism to be found! That is indeed AWESOME. Great job, mate! "Now then, me bullies! Would you rather do the gallows dance, and hang in chains 'til the crows pluck your eyes from your rotten skulls? Or would you feel the roll of a stout ship beneath your feet again?" ---Captain William Kidd--- (1945) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty spike Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 hey are you going to band the barrel or pin it. Most of the catlan musket that I have seen are bandedp, with just a few pinned. Hope that helps bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Swab Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 True most of the muskets are banded although this is a blunderbuss and the few blunderbuss examples are not banded unless setup for a swivel. Also with the french styled spanish lock I have decided to pin it. Today I am going to see what can be done about welding on it and another piece. There likely won't be updates for a while as I am going to have to wait for the triggerguard from the rifle shoppe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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