Liam McMac Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) Here are some pics of the new shortgown I made for my loverly lady. Used my own pattern.... is it too short? Her grandmother got this material 27 years ago in Scotland. Edited August 30, 2009 by Liam McMac _Liam McMac Celtic and Pirate Tailor Beware the Iron Brigade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silkie McDonough Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Gown or Jacket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Souris Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Looks very similar to my 1660's English jacket....very nice though. It's lovely. Good job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam McMac Posted August 30, 2009 Author Share Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) Hmmm... I was under the impression that they called them shortgowns because they were shorter than a gown, and that they only called them jackets if worn by a man. That's what I thought but I'm sure that someone here will enlighten me with their knowledge. I'm here to learn Edited August 30, 2009 by Liam McMac _Liam McMac Celtic and Pirate Tailor Beware the Iron Brigade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callenish gunner Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 the term seems to have been interchangeable depending on the source ...i have seen them called both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady constance Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Liam, you ought to be right proud!! the pattern you made is awesome! and i hope you saved it---i hope your woman makes you an apple pie or some dessert that you love in appreciation!!!!!!!!!!{or whatever token of appreciation that shows you her gratitude!! } i dont know what era you seek to re-enact, but artwork would support such a gown....1660's- 1690's country folk-- i shall look around in art books that i have to give you an artist and a title of such .. .. give me a few days that being said, i do think if you saved your pattern, add anywhere between 3- 5 inches flaring it ever so slightly outwards athe hem-- flare it towards, and that it mimics and the same shape as the hips-- look up "peplum skirt shapes" and "tulip shape skirt" for an idea of what that means as far as line and shape.... google 18th century or even exact years of GaoP.... for womens gowns.... that will help you see the shapes that were common... i think you should enjoy the baske of glow from your accomplishment-- the fabric choice is LOVELY and definitely historically accurate... did you enjoy your endeavors into tailoring? i hope so because you did excellent work! cant wait to see wht else you can do!!! and i would especially love to see your button choice!! Peace, lady constance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam McMac Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 Liam, you ought to be right proud!! the pattern you made is awesome! and i hope you saved it---i hope your woman makes you an apple pie or some dessert that you love in appreciation!!!!!!!!!!{or whatever token of appreciation that shows you her gratitude!! } i dont know what era you seek to re-enact, but artwork would support such a gown....1660's- 1690's country folk-- i shall look around in art books that i have to give you an artist and a title of such .. .. give me a few days that being said, i do think if you saved your pattern, add anywhere between 3- 5 inches flaring it ever so slightly outwards athe hem-- flare it towards, and that it mimics and the same shape as the hips-- look up "peplum skirt shapes" and "tulip shape skirt" for an idea of what that means as far as line and shape.... google 18th century or even exact years of GaoP.... for womens gowns.... that will help you see the shapes that were common... i think you should enjoy the baske of glow from your accomplishment-- the fabric choice is LOVELY and definitely historically accurate... did you enjoy your endeavors into tailoring? i hope so because you did excellent work! cant wait to see wht else you can do!!! and i would especially love to see your button choice!! Peace, lady constance Thank you very kindly for your input... I have in fact only been tailoring for a year and a half but I have made so much clothing I have lost track. This shortgown is acctualy flared and split at the sides but you can't see it in these photos. I only added about 5 inches past the waist because I wanted it to be asimple but flatering shape which fits her curves nicely. I'm not going to add buttons as the research I have done, has led me to the conclusion that women's gowns rarely had buttons, but rather simple pins to close their garments. To be sure... my lady rewards me every day with her presence alone. _Liam McMac Celtic and Pirate Tailor Beware the Iron Brigade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callenish gunner Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Aye lad you are quite right about the use of pins to close garments. I think what Lady Constance was referring to is that you might want to make the gown slightly longer with a more pronounced flair to the skirting to mid hip length or slightly longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam McMac Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 I hope to make her an entire period correct ensemble so I will be making her a linen shortgown/jacket to wear in the warmer months. When I do I will be sure make it longer and more full in the skirts....... thanks again _Liam McMac Celtic and Pirate Tailor Beware the Iron Brigade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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