Capt. Sterling

Oi Daniel... do you know enough to "pigeon hole" some of us...if we were to write down what we would support given your definition? It would help with some of the living history...

Oh we need one of those quizes... answer the questions and by your responses you would most likely be a Whig or if you answered the questions the other way you would most likely be a Tory... From Daniel's explanation (thank ye Daniel)... I am certainly a little bit of both

Hmmm from a civilian point of view, silk lining is appropriate to the time frame for upper classes, but from a military point of view...and knowing little about Spanish kit, you might want to dig a bit further and not just assume...Have you seen the thread here in Twill, Uniform Colours? Mickey Bagley has done quite a bit of research on things and may have come across some more information regarding Spanish kit. I like the sound of the napped wool best but that is just my personal taste. I used heavy linen canvas for interlining a heavy linen coat and it has soften considerably over the past year and is losing it shape... Although I must admit it is a lot lighter in weight and a whole lot cooler... As to cotton fabric.. beware... Cotton often meant wool for our time frame... Indian Calicos was often the term used for fabric made from the cotton plant for our time frame... and most people argue as to what the cotton was actually like... but if you get swatches of currently produced Indian Calicos the weight is often extremely light and at this point without having worked with it yet in anything more than basic sewing... not sure I can see a proper coat looking correctly made from the stuff... I have a banyan made from Indian calico and even though it is supposed to be rather shapeless without the heavy linen lining.. it would just cling like a cocoon ... One can a hazard a quess that they might have as military can follow similar construction techniques as civilian garments (although I am speaking here of later Rev. War period items)...but that is an assumption... what documentation have you come up with? Have you tried contacting St. Augustine's? I once had a lengthy and very interesting conversation with one of their staff regarding some of the major differences in kit due to just the very basis of Protestant English versus Catholic Spanish with a heavy Moorish influence on the lower classes... whew... And could you possibly share any written documentation you might have...some of us here would not mind reading it and giving our interpretation if we can...

Now if only I could get my hair to curl like that wig.. I wouldn't have to buy a wig considering I already have blond hair...sheesh...starting to sound like Seymour that dung farmer's son

ahem... cough, cough, we shall sound like a couple of fops...

Monkey suit indeed! them be fightin words...ahem.. remind me.. ahem... to run ye through next time I see ye... and yes, I already have the claret colored wool set aside by Paul Dickfoss... ahem... wool much nicer than the silk velvet and will bring it down a notch in status...and last a whole lot longer... now to decide on which waistcoat to copy the one at Williamsburg or the one at Jamestown... like the vermicelli so much more than all that gold work

My pleasure... always nice to find something "new"...

This coat is not interlined... I know, because I was asked to make it and was asked not to interline due to not enough documentation at the time. I believe it is necessary to have the interlining inside the coats as per Norah Waugh's advice that it was common in the 18th century (and somewhat earlier) to have it and because it gives the coat the proper silhouette to the time frame. My advice, for what it is worth, is to interline...my coats all have it... it takes time to do all the extra tailoring but it truly gives the proper appearance for the time frame instead of just hanging off the figure. Wools look great with it, but even with the interlining the linen coat I have just looses a lot compared to the woolen ones...

My vote, and my nomination is the Captain of my marines... Maddogge.

hmmm, in my opinion...humble or not... kind of bland for a fop don't ye think? Rather common looking for more upper middle class or higher up as far as the coat goes.. now the waistcoat would most likely be a wealthier look but still rather tame

Then we shall address ye as "rug"

Hmmmm love Blackbeard's but there is so much work to be done there and we are all so spread out to begin with, camping is limited to the crews working...Beaufort has more free time, but space is limited at least for them that need to camp as well...

Tis the pain killers speaking for him... he's not aware of what he saying

There is no rank here... no one listens to no one... well except listening to Stynky... once in awhile...

Sounds like a fair appraisal... now to start working on the hiccups and the next contest... suggestion... get the nominees in early this year... I cannot tell you how many times I overheard..."IT would have been nice to be able to go to events to meet these guys during the year before we were expected to vote..." just a thought...

http://collectionsonline.lacma.org/mwebcgi/mweb.exe?request=record;id=24161;type=101 direct link

I think the sleeve head/cap is most interesting...for all the coats that have it laying smooth, this one certainly shows it gathered to fit the armscye.

Tartan Jack is correct, tis from the LACMA( Los Angeles County Museum of Art) and it has an Exhibition Catalog for This Artwork Velvets East and West: From the 14th to the 20th Century. Los Angeles: Los Angeles County Museum of Art, 1966, p. 49, Cat. no. 36 It doesn't appear to be a loaner, and with the catalog, you may be able to get more information if you contact them

It's LA, according to the in-post description . . . Aye well lookee that... too early in the morning... thought it said LA Funding... which wouldn't necessarily prove location...thank you... saves me having to look it up later

On the site, no there were no more photos of different views... um but you can trying contacting the museum to see if you can get some done... of course I can't remember which museum it was now since I went through the collections of seven of em last night... I have the info some where though... I think its Los Angels off the top of my head though

Foxe's lovely flowers were for his wife to wear... and aye... yer damned to be a fop, even though you will never admit it...so stop making fun of the red velvet coat because deep down inside you are dying to own one...

Ah yes, you would not be interested as there are no flowers embroidered on the coat...ahem...like your new one...

Probably German Man’s Coat, circa 1720-1730 Costume/clothing principle attire/upper body, Cut silk velvet, Center back length: 43 1/2 in. (110.49 cm) Los Angeles County Fund (62.6.2) Costume and Textiles Department.

Another French man! Well to one French dog, from one English bastard, Soyez bienvenus au pub.

I would love to be able to get together with all of you in a coffe house and discuss things.What a fun time that would be.Internet is so cold in here agreed... perhaps in the future a common ground meeting place for one weekend OL event other than just the induction ceremony? and back to the topic...