Red Cat Jenny Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I searched and only found a few old posts on views below decks. I am looking for photos or realistic drawings/paintings which show the Captain and Crew quarters as they would have looked. Also the galley and gun decks etc thanks! Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help.... Her reputation was her livelihood. I'm a pirate, love. By nature and by choice! My inner voice sometimes has an accent! My wont? A delicious rip in time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Lasseter Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Here's a fine site.... go to the Gallery... http://www.shtandart.com/mission.htm# Truly, D. Lasseter Captain, The Lucy Propria Virtute Audax --- In Hoc Signo Vinces Ni Feidir An Dubh A Chur Ina Bhan Air "If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me." Deuteronomy 32:41 Envy and its evil twin - It crept in bed with slander - Idiots they gave advice - But Sloth it gave no answer - Anger kills the human soul - With butter tales of Lust - While Pavlov's Dogs keep chewin' - On the legs they never trust... The Seven Deadly Sins http://www.colonialnavy.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cat Jenny Posted October 18, 2006 Author Share Posted October 18, 2006 Aye thankee! Tis a fyne ship and beautiful pics! Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help.... Her reputation was her livelihood. I'm a pirate, love. By nature and by choice! My inner voice sometimes has an accent! My wont? A delicious rip in time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oderlesseye Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Captians quarter HMS> Suprise http://www.myspace.com/oderlesseyehttp://www.facebook....esseye?ref=nameHangin at Execution dock awaits. May yer Life be a long and joyous adventure in gettin there!As he was about to face the gallows there, the pirate is said to have tossed a sheaf of papers into the crowd, taunting his audience with these final words: "My treasure to he who can understand." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cat Jenny Posted October 19, 2006 Author Share Posted October 19, 2006 Ohhhh "jumping up and down" thank ye both! Please add more links or pics when ye can. I'm usually goode at searching this stuff online, but have come uo quite empty when it comes to below decks. Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help.... Her reputation was her livelihood. I'm a pirate, love. By nature and by choice! My inner voice sometimes has an accent! My wont? A delicious rip in time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Pyrate Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 It depended very much on the mission of the ship. For a frigate-type vessel, the film Master & Commander gets it very right. Little sloops of war that didn't have a seperate gun deck would be filled with provisions below the waterline. Crew would sleep on provisions and on hammocks wherever there was room. Generally, the deck was open below. On a merchant vessel, cargo was king (then and now). The website of Lady Washington, a merchant brig of 90 tons, has a great picture: http://ladywashington.org/dsthenandnow.jpg Where would the crew sleep in the above picture? Anywhere they could. The little cabin just forward of the chart table would be for the master and mate. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cat Jenny Posted October 19, 2006 Author Share Posted October 19, 2006 That was very informative and I'll ave t' rent Master n Commander again. I didn't think about the lack of a gunnery deck. Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help.... Her reputation was her livelihood. I'm a pirate, love. By nature and by choice! My inner voice sometimes has an accent! My wont? A delicious rip in time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjohn Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 I can't get this to open, since I'm not at my normal pc, but in theory it is a virtual tour of the HMS Rose (which became the HMS Surprise). http://www.tallshiprose.org/info/tour/intro.html My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cat Jenny Posted October 19, 2006 Author Share Posted October 19, 2006 Wow BlackJohn, I was hoping you'd post as well. The VR tour does work and it's great. Thanks so much. I'm really enjoying this post.. I want to get the general "feel" for being on board stem to stern; The mast view was great! I buys ye a rum t say thankee! Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help.... Her reputation was her livelihood. I'm a pirate, love. By nature and by choice! My inner voice sometimes has an accent! My wont? A delicious rip in time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn_Enigma Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Although you failed to specify which period you are looking for: Here's a Virtual Tour of the VOC retourschip "Batavia". And to the picture that was posted by oderlesseye: It looks just like my grandma's coffee table. Just our disneyfied, romantisized, hollywoodized imagination of a "Captain's Table". Even multi- armed candlesticks are there. But how long do you s'pose this layout would last even in the slightest breeze aboard a tallship? Listen to someone who has actually been to sea: Not a minute. By that time, everything you see would be tumbling in very handy heap of shards on the leeward side of the deck. I could also mention that there hardly were (leather!) upholstery nor even comfy cushions aboard, but I guess you see my point. "The floggings will continue until morale improves!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cat Jenny Posted October 20, 2006 Author Share Posted October 20, 2006 Well coming home after working all night and getting to spend time exploring a ships decks was a true treat! Thank you for th post and I hope more are coming. Can't wait t have a "real" tour. The massive size is starting t' sink in.. Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help.... Her reputation was her livelihood. I'm a pirate, love. By nature and by choice! My inner voice sometimes has an accent! My wont? A delicious rip in time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyTarr Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Well coming home after working all night and getting to spend time exploring a ships decks was a true treat! Thank you for th post and I hope more are coming. Can't wait t have a "real" tour. The massive size is starting t' sink in.. I just don't know, but something about that statment is just naughty. Git up of your asses, set up those glasses I'm drinking this place dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cat Jenny Posted October 21, 2006 Author Share Posted October 21, 2006 hee! That had crossed my mind when I worte it..meant t' edit it..then th phone rang. oh well! LOL "It's not th size o yer ship but how ye trims th sails?" Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help.... Her reputation was her livelihood. I'm a pirate, love. By nature and by choice! My inner voice sometimes has an accent! My wont? A delicious rip in time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Pyrate Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 If you're thinking pirate, start thinking small. Our idea of pirate ships as frigate size or bigger is about like that picture of the great cabin table... nice, but inaccurate. Pirates used tiny ships: sloops, cutters, ketches, some brigs, and eventually schooners. Think open gundecks, think small multi-purpose compartments, in the rare case that there were compartments at all. Men sleeping everywhere: someone's got to crew all those prize ships. You'd not have a place of your own, when you're on watch someone else has your spot. Think shallow-draft - got to slip in and out of littoral waters. Shallow-draft means not much room below deck, especially because the small quick ships don't have much freeboard. Almost certainly there'd be only one level below deck. Batavia and Surprise/Rose are too big for pirates, except for the very rare case: as is often said, don't make the rare common and the common rare. Small, small, small. And crowded and stinking. And dark below deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cat Jenny Posted October 21, 2006 Author Share Posted October 21, 2006 I was wondering about that, thinking more on the line of barques, sloops and schooners ..shallow draft vessels as you point out also able to escape into waters war ships would run aground in or hide in coves or even rivers. Where I live andthe pirates engaged in rumrunning, the bay is very shallow in areas and the tide level can vary. However was thinking that these larger ships were necessary in different waters such as the harrowing sail around the horn or well out to sea where the waves are huge. Still I wonder a large ship would present both an easier target, be more visible at a distance but might offset this with superior firepower of multiple gun decks. Still learning..thanks all for the info. Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help.... Her reputation was her livelihood. I'm a pirate, love. By nature and by choice! My inner voice sometimes has an accent! My wont? A delicious rip in time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cat Jenny Posted October 22, 2006 Author Share Posted October 22, 2006 Funny, I answered me own question in the 1606vpost.. Missed this gallery of below decks initially Still keep em coming! Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help.... Her reputation was her livelihood. I'm a pirate, love. By nature and by choice! My inner voice sometimes has an accent! My wont? A delicious rip in time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silkie McDonough Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 Thenks for the link Cat! Very enlightning. I have a question to any who will answer. What size ship is she? The best I could find was "small". Did anyone see any dimensions? (I have a tendancy to overlook the obvious when I am looking for something specific.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Lasseter Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Duyfken is built about 1595 in the Netherlands. A fast, lightly-armed ship probably intended for small valuable cargoes or privateering. She looks like a brig to me... Selected as the jacht, or scout, for the "Moluccan Fleet" sailing to the Spice Islands. There, she is called a 'Jacht' or Yacht.... Truly, D. Lasseter Captain, The Lucy Propria Virtute Audax --- In Hoc Signo Vinces Ni Feidir An Dubh A Chur Ina Bhan Air "If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me." Deuteronomy 32:41 Envy and its evil twin - It crept in bed with slander - Idiots they gave advice - But Sloth it gave no answer - Anger kills the human soul - With butter tales of Lust - While Pavlov's Dogs keep chewin' - On the legs they never trust... The Seven Deadly Sins http://www.colonialnavy.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Pyrate Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Properly, she'd be a barque - square rigged on two masts, fore-and-aft on the third. A brig is two masted, square-rigged on both. That said, 1606 rig terminology is vastly different than now. The use of the word "barque" for a particular rig didn't come into vogue until the 19th century. I'm not real up on early Dutch rigs, but I think she's a fluyt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Lasseter Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Aye, What you said... Damn Dutchies... Truly, D. Lasseter Captain, The Lucy Propria Virtute Audax --- In Hoc Signo Vinces Ni Feidir An Dubh A Chur Ina Bhan Air "If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me." Deuteronomy 32:41 Envy and its evil twin - It crept in bed with slander - Idiots they gave advice - But Sloth it gave no answer - Anger kills the human soul - With butter tales of Lust - While Pavlov's Dogs keep chewin' - On the legs they never trust... The Seven Deadly Sins http://www.colonialnavy.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbitz Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 She is indeed a jacht, about 24 metres long (78ish feet) 140 tonnes (150? tons). A modern real estate might describe her as compact or cosy.... Rabz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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