kass Posted February 24, 2006 Posted February 24, 2006 You mean all these years, I've been missing the ulterior purpose of these things?!?!? Cool! Building an Empire... one prickety stitch at a time!
Dorian Lasseter Posted February 24, 2006 Posted February 24, 2006 Lardy! I's ne'er drank from a woman's boot afore..... Truly, D. Lasseter Captain, The Lucy Propria Virtute Audax --- In Hoc Signo Vinces Ni Feidir An Dubh A Chur Ina Bhan Air "If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me." Deuteronomy 32:41 Envy and its evil twin - It crept in bed with slander - Idiots they gave advice - But Sloth it gave no answer - Anger kills the human soul - With butter tales of Lust - While Pavlov's Dogs keep chewin' - On the legs they never trust... The Seven Deadly Sins http://www.colonialnavy.org
kass Posted February 24, 2006 Posted February 24, 2006 OW!!! Beer really hurts when you snarfle... Building an Empire... one prickety stitch at a time!
Dorian Lasseter Posted February 24, 2006 Posted February 24, 2006 Hmmm... Yer nay supposed ta snarfle th' beer... Drinkin' it works best... Er... wot's snarfle? I assume somat like snarf, but worse? Truly, D. Lasseter Captain, The Lucy Propria Virtute Audax --- In Hoc Signo Vinces Ni Feidir An Dubh A Chur Ina Bhan Air "If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me." Deuteronomy 32:41 Envy and its evil twin - It crept in bed with slander - Idiots they gave advice - But Sloth it gave no answer - Anger kills the human soul - With butter tales of Lust - While Pavlov's Dogs keep chewin' - On the legs they never trust... The Seven Deadly Sins http://www.colonialnavy.org
Dorian Lasseter Posted February 24, 2006 Posted February 24, 2006 Er... oh, right th' topic... Boots.... Ah.... boots... Ah..... Hmmmm...... Truly, D. Lasseter Captain, The Lucy Propria Virtute Audax --- In Hoc Signo Vinces Ni Feidir An Dubh A Chur Ina Bhan Air "If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me." Deuteronomy 32:41 Envy and its evil twin - It crept in bed with slander - Idiots they gave advice - But Sloth it gave no answer - Anger kills the human soul - With butter tales of Lust - While Pavlov's Dogs keep chewin' - On the legs they never trust... The Seven Deadly Sins http://www.colonialnavy.org
Gentleman of Fortune Posted February 24, 2006 Posted February 24, 2006 I am not sure that i count Hogarth too much. Here is why He was born in 1697 and was trained as an engraver... and apparently had his buisness up and running around 1720. But there isn't anything significant by him till the very end of 1729 with the Beggers Opera, with the bulk of the stuff he is famous for (Rake and Harlots Progress, and Marriage a la Mode) in the 30s-50s. Timing here is important here because fashions and styles start to change (in the 1720s as a whole as we are leaving the Baroque and reminants of the Baroque and getting firmly planted in the Rococo period. For some things it might seem minor (like gentlemen start to wear their stockings tucked under their breeches instead of pulled over the tops of them, but other things are major, like the cut and lenghts of clothes and hairstyles. Hogarth's Soliciting Votes (that is the name of the second one you have pictured), it is dated 1754, so its clearly out of the GAoP. Which one do you think might be the sailors? There are two men with blue aprons that are talking to a gentlemen that seems to be wearing a riding coat/overcoat and riding boots. Not sure what this proves. The other Hogarth is weird. There seems to be two versions This one and this one Not sure what Hogarth's 1751 Beer Street has for GAoP relevancy... Isn't that a soldier wearing the boots? The fencing painting is pretty cool too.... for a 1787 painting (if I am reading the date in the bottom right corner right). Kass covered the other ones.... Keep up the good work though Pete, you are making this interesting. GoF Come aboard my pirate re-enacting site http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/ Where you will find lots of information on building your authentic Pirate Impression!
Pirate Petee Posted February 24, 2006 Author Posted February 24, 2006 Thank you you, and I will. I noticed that too, about the beer street. Your print is really clean. Looks like a fum place to visit. Mmmmm.....Beer Street.
kass Posted February 24, 2006 Posted February 24, 2006 Er... wot's snarfle? I assume somat like snarf, but worse? Yes, it's just like snarffing but with a cute, wee nosey... [sticks face back in beer-filled bucket boot] Building an Empire... one prickety stitch at a time!
dasNdanger Posted February 24, 2006 Posted February 24, 2006 Er... wot's snarfle? I assume somat like snarf, but worse? Yes, it's just like snarffing but with a cute, wee nosey... [sticks face back in beer-filled bucket boot] I was gonna say something about 35 posts ago....but now I've forgotten what it is. Dang. *grabs kass' bucket boot and takes a chug* das http://www.ajmeerwald.org/
Pirate Petee Posted February 24, 2006 Author Posted February 24, 2006 The third and fourth images are portrails of "Hudibras" who was a mock hero during the english Civil war, good eye Kass.
Pirate Petee Posted February 24, 2006 Author Posted February 24, 2006 Notice the pistol bucket on the horse.
JoshuaRed Posted February 25, 2006 Posted February 25, 2006 Did some boot diggin' last night just for kicks, found some rather interesting stuff : First up a playing card dated 1754: Here's a fun one of a Dutch dude dated...1720...sporting some posh softies: Granted they are not sailors, but they aren't riding....though I think that Dutch caricature guy is sporting a spur. Just some Devil's Advocate food for thought. And lastly, some good natured fun for all ye boot lovers out there: :)
kass Posted February 25, 2006 Posted February 25, 2006 Hey Josh (or anyone who knows), Do you know the significance of the boot in that cartoon? That would be interesting to know... Kass Building an Empire... one prickety stitch at a time!
JoshuaRed Posted February 25, 2006 Posted February 25, 2006 Well this site I found had MANY scans of circa 1750-1760 cartoons concerning the Scottish "Jackboots" & the Jacobite rebellion....as well as many cartoons using boots as political metaphors....I'll see if I can find the link again, it was obscure and I forgot to bookmark it.
The Doctor Posted February 25, 2006 Posted February 25, 2006 Here's my take on things, as off kilter as the might be. Kass you can complain to Janelle on your other list about my misbehaviour. She's used to it. :) Right! Among my kit, which will be augmented by Kass' creations once they ship (hint, hint!), is a leather tricorn (I am an expert with leather, where as tarred felt escapes me) and suede bucket boots. Granted, I'm playing off fantasy as opposed to reality. Reality sucks, as we all know. My kit will be of linen this year, based on Janelle's ministrations. As period as possible, minus my fanciful take on things. I may be naught but a playtron, but the kiddies seek me out to show me the coins the they've accumulated, and I invariably trade their plastic coins for a solid metal Spanish coin reproduction. They run off to their Mums, proudly showing how they traded with a "real" pyrate for solid coin! I teach them the hard "Pyrate look", and send them on their way. It's so hard for me not to laugh, but it is so much fun!! Yo ho ho! Or does nobody actually say that?
Gentleman of Fortune Posted February 25, 2006 Posted February 25, 2006 no need to apologize for doin' what your doin' mate. I think you are making a good move with doing a coat using KASS patterns though (if that is what you meant). Fantasy or Factual, a coat is going to cost real good money. An authentic one will give you more options later.... if you want to dable in authentic piracy. Hats can be made realitively inexpensively (hat blanks are around $30). You might want to PM harbor master on the leather tricorn. I think he has owned/bought several types and swears by them (I an not sure who he reccomends though......) Good luck, (and post pics!) GoF yeah.. that bastard Come aboard my pirate re-enacting site http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/ Where you will find lots of information on building your authentic Pirate Impression!
kass Posted February 25, 2006 Posted February 25, 2006 Here's my take on things, as off kilter as the might be. Kass you can complain to Janelle on your other list about my misbehaviour. She's used to it. :) Oh, you're THAT Jack! I don't complain about you, mate. I complain about people saying things are historical when they're not, which is definitely something you don't do. At least not that I've ever seen. And your hats ROCK! I love the bit with giving the kids metal coins for their plastic ones. May I ask where you get your coins? By the way, the men's preordered patterns will ship on Monday. That's set in stone. I can smell the printing fluids now... Building an Empire... one prickety stitch at a time!
kass Posted February 27, 2006 Posted February 27, 2006 Oh Petee... That's not a Pirate! Where's his parrot, tricorn and earrings? And his Rav4 isn't even flying the Jolly Roger... Building an Empire... one prickety stitch at a time!
Gentleman of Fortune Posted February 27, 2006 Posted February 27, 2006 Now you know you have been searching tooooo hard for bucket boots when that comes up! classic.... He is on the way to a ren fest no doubt. GoF Come aboard my pirate re-enacting site http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/ Where you will find lots of information on building your authentic Pirate Impression!
Pirate Petee Posted February 27, 2006 Author Posted February 27, 2006 Oh Petee... That's not a Pirate! Where's his parrot, tricorn and earrings? And his Rav4 isn't even flying the Jolly Roger... Ah, but his Rav 4 does start with a big "R"
kass Posted February 27, 2006 Posted February 27, 2006 I'm glad I'd finished my lunch before I read that one, Petee! Building an Empire... one prickety stitch at a time!
JoshuaRed Posted February 27, 2006 Posted February 27, 2006 Petee, you ARE the man. Kinda makes ya wonder how boring life must have been for us before Google, eh? So many things we missed out on!
HarborMaster Posted February 27, 2006 Posted February 27, 2006 I have several leather hats.,two handmade by 2 differant people.,but I would take my other leather hat over them first. The comfort.,and durability of the 3rd and 4th is why. My favorite hat is my hat made by Excalibur Leather . On this particular hat I chose a black hat and when i received it I was a bit disapointed., I felt the brim was too short. I called them on the phone and they said they make a tricorn with a 4" brim., and by request over the phone they do make them with a 5" brim. At that time I ordered another my brown hat and I ordered it in a 5" brim. Wow just ask around 1" can indeed make all the differance in the world ! I would recommend the 5" over the 4" it puts a bit more shape at the rear corners and gives you higher sides. It repels water.,maintains its shape is cool to wear (doesnt attract heat). Measure your head before you order .,including the tops of your ears., then add a 1/2" if you wear a wrap around yer skull under your hat. I am not Lost .,I am Exploring. "If you give a man a fire, he will be warm for a night, if you set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life!"
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