dasNdanger Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 This is an extension of the food discussion, I suppose... Okay - which one was it??? Was it a maggot or a weevil - or a larvae or a beetle - or what??! A couple of quick links: http://www.hmssurprise.org/News/Daisya_obriani.html http://www.hms.org.uk/nelsonsnavymaggot.htm Any other information we can dig up on these little buggers...? das http://www.ajmeerwald.org/
Fox Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 I used to keep some in a tin, but I couln't tell you the biology (let no one question my dedication to authenticity!). According to the 1761 source I posted in "Gold Age Food" there was more than one variety anyway... A 1761 document entitled "An appeal to the public...to prevent the Navy of England being supplied with pernicious Provisions" is useful because it lists various food stuffs then common on ships, together with exactly what was wrong with them:Flour ("devoured by weevils") Bread ("full of black-headed maggots") Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk
Rumba Rue Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 Weevils are found in flour type subtances. Maggots are found in rotting meat type subtances.
dasNdanger Posted February 8, 2006 Author Posted February 8, 2006 I used to keep some in a tin... oooooo-kaaaaaay... Bet you get a LOT of free restaurant meals... I was reading your post in the food thread, that's why I started this one. Growing up, we used to get 'weevils' in our pasta products, but they were these tiny, thin critters that one could hardly see...perhaps a red flour beetle (as seen HERE ) THAT'S what we always referred to as a 'weevil', though it surely isn't. When I first learned of biscuit weevils, that's what I pictured. Guess I was wrong! But in movies, they always show the maggoty-looking thing. I guess those 'black-headed maggots' as described in the bread, and perhaps on that second link in my first post... das http://www.ajmeerwald.org/
Duchess Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 We used to get some in our rice that looked almost like the rice, except they moved. And the ones in the flour were actually pretty large, about a cm. In my experience maggots always look wet to me, but weevils look slightly scaled and not so wet.
Jib Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 Foxe: English food must be that bad for you to keep a tin of larva.
Fox Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 My mother had a tin of flour that was never opened for years. When it finaly was it was infested. I kept the weevils and used them at living histories to show people what they were. Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk
blackjohn Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 mmmm... crunchy! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_weevil My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together.
dasNdanger Posted February 9, 2006 Author Posted February 9, 2006 My mother had a tin of flour that was never opened for years. When it finaly was it was infested. I kept the weevils and used them at living histories to show people what they were. Hey, Foxe - show me your weevils, and I'll show you mine... Seriously, of all the pictures presented here - what did your tinned pets looks like? The maggoty kind, or the beetle kind...or wot?? das http://www.ajmeerwald.org/
blackjohn Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weevil "Some other beetles are wrongly called "weevils", like the biscuit weevils (Stegobium paniceum) (Anobiidae) that were previously known for eating the biscuits on board ships." http://www.bioimages.org.uk/HTML/R150908.HTM Life cycle info... http://creatures.ifas.ufl.edu/urban/stored...tore_beetle.htm My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together.
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