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Does anyone know what a Grummet is?

It is mentioned this document from 1710 relating to crewing a ship.

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"Make up your Complemt. of men and Grummets One hundred & Ten in Number, as fast as you can."

Is it some sort of post on a ship as it is mentioned along with Pages a lot in the book "Butterflies Will Burn: Prosecuting Sodomites in Early Modern Spain and Mexico" (the only other reference to it i can find)?

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=WrM0__qIN2YC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

It mentiones that it is the lowliest type of sailor and seems to indicate that it is mainly young boys in the post.

Anyone else come across the term before?

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Grommet. sometimes referring to a boy, sometimes to an inexperienced seaman.

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POD -

Ditto on Foxe's info at this site - thepirtestreasure.com/index_files/Glossary.doc

It lists a Spanish word of grumete which on Babylon Spanish to English translation lists :

grumete - nm. cabin boy, shipboy, servant boy on a ship

Jas. Hook ;)

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We'll pass this along to the missus.

It'll make for a better period impression than "hey you punk bastids!"

Hey, "Avast thar ye punk grummets, belay that!"

Hummmm... it has possibility. :D

Jas. Hook ;)

"Born on an island, live on an island... the sea has always been in my blood." Jas. Hook

"You can't direct the wind . . . but . . . you can adjust the sails."

"Don't eat the chickens with writing on their beaks." Governor Sawney

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We'll pass this along to the missus.

It'll make for a better period impression than "hey you punk bastids!"

Hey, "Avast thar ye punk grummets, belay that!"

Hummmm... it has possibility. :D

Jas. Hook ;)

You're a natural JH. And now we know who to leave them with during their summer break.

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We'll pass this along to the missus.

It'll make for a better period impression than "hey you punk bastids!"

Hey, "Avast thar ye punk grummets, belay that!"

Hummmm... it has possibility. :D

Jas. Hook ;)

You're a natural JH. And now we know who to leave them with during their summer break.

LLA -

Aye, shackles hand an foot for them grummets, an a bowl of gruel fer a spell.

Thems thar younkers be shipshape n' golden fer next summer.

Lined up by the pipe call like Cap'n Von Trapp's crew.

Jas. Hook :D

"Born on an island, live on an island... the sea has always been in my blood." Jas. Hook

"You can't direct the wind . . . but . . . you can adjust the sails."

"Don't eat the chickens with writing on their beaks." Governor Sawney

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Funny how long this saying has been around..in the modern surfing circuit community ,

New surfers who are young teens are often referred to as Grommets as well.

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