Fancy Ropework

[Dutchman]

Lots of us piddle around with fancy knotwork, so lets start showing off. If there is enough interest we can talk to stynky about adding this to the workshop lineup.

[Dutchman]

This is a bosun's whistle lanyard I made. It's #120 (about 3/16 inch) 4 strand cotton line. The small loop knot is a crown and wall knot doubled. The large loop is a trebled diamond knot- didn't turn out so well due to me not laying the splice properly- first attempt so o.k. i guess. The ring holding the pipe is the one it came with- i'll make a larger one when i get home to a piece of brass rod.

[Bos'n Cross]

great idea Dutch....ill have to get some picks of some of my stuff as well.......but now i wonder.......if your trying to steals me job........

[rusty spike]

Ifn you arewantin to see some fancy knot work you should contact bosun Carl and have him put up some pics. He did a harbormasters telescope for me and it is incredable. I would post pics but I still don't know how

[Dutchman]

last nights project-

a new harness for a ditty bag as the dog ate my old bag. seriously, whole damnded bag! anyhow- handle is wrapped with coxwaining, into a matthew walker, six strand round sennet, star knot, then a turks head for a slider.

the book is a new one i found at wooden boat- lots of good info on tools and techniques rather than the knots. it also goes into sewing stitches. good book.

edit- ok pic was done before the coxwaining and the star is a bit loose. i didnt have any tools to tighten it down at the time- looks better now.

[Dutchman]

and the finished bag

[peglegstrick]

Nice work!

[Grymm]

I'm after making some rope quoits to amuse my Small during events (And to give me summat to do in front of the punters mebbe) Any tips or tutorials for how to using 3 strand hemp?

Ideally I'd like to end up with summat that looks like

Or

Even all round rather than wi' a gurt big lump on one side.

Edited September 11, 2011 by Grymm

[Dutchman]

sure-

hemp can be a bit soft for making quoits- think about manila as it will hold its shape a bit better.

here is a link. essentially you are making a rope grommet.

http://scouting1659....e%20Grommet.pdf

edit* you can add strands of colored yarn to lay between the strands as markers

[Grymm]

Bloody brilliant stuff! Thanks for that link.

I'll have to stick with the hemp as I have a 100m reel of 10mm baksheesh, summat to hone me skills on any way =o) Thanks again.

Grymm

Edited September 12, 2011 by Grymm

[Dutchman]

10mm- kind of light to make quoit rings. to make thicker rings- put a bit of a twist WITH the lay to tighten it then work it into a ring the same way. you wont have the previous lays to guide you, but it shouldnt be that hard to do if you take your time. maybe add some twists to the line as you go to help it lay into place. would make your rings 30mm thick instead of 10.

[silas thatcher]

here are some pics that rusty spike wanted me to upload... they are showing the knot work done on his telescope by bos'n carl...

[Stynky Tudor]

Wow, wonderful stuff!

[Dutchman]

just got to a computer that would show the pics- nicely done!

[asemery]

Ringbolt hitching is an attractive way to cover a solid ring. One strand is involed so the ends can be tied in a knot (in this case a modified diamond knot)

or a turks head knot

This is how I did it

With standing end on left of ring bring Working End through ring and make half hitch.

Bring WE through ring and from left to right through crossing point and pull snug

Bring WE through ring and repeat above steps

When there is roon for only one more hitch bring WE through the ring and UP through the loop holding the Standing End

Next bring WE through the crossing point and DOWN through the loop

Pull the standing End down through the loop and the hitching is complete. The ends may be glued or held in place with a contrasting color Turks Head knot

OR

Turks Head tied with two ends

Make a clockwise loop with left end in front of ring and a counter-clockwise loop with the right end through the loop

Bring each end over the strand and through the corresponding loops on top

Bring each end down across one strand and through the loop on the bottom

The Turks Head tied with two ends is complete. You can tighten it up and hide the ends or double it by bring each end parallel to the strand just below it

As I mentioned the finishing knot can be doubled (or even tripled) by following parallel to the indicated strand. Cut the ends close to the knot and push them under the knot to hide them.

[asemery]

Double Monkey Fist Knot

This is Ashley Book of Knots # 2206. Since it has 12 faces as compared to the 6 faces of a regular monkey fist it is sometimes called the double monkey fist.

I have written a tutorial if anyone is interested

[William Brand]

I'm interested. Feel free to share any tutorials here.

[asemery]

I'm interested. Feel free to share any tutorials here.

This is ABOK 2206. It requires a LOT of twine in the set-up, about half of which will be recovered when the knot is tightened. Here is how the lay-out looks - about 10' of paracord

Tightened around a 7/8" diameter core - about 5 1/2' of paracord left over

The fist is made up of 4 circles. You must put in the desired number of turns in each circle before going on to the next circle.

Start at the outside of each circle. I am showing only two turns in each circle to make the layout easier to see.

In this tutorial the standing end is on the right and the working end is on the left.

Circle 1 - Clockwise

Circle 2 - - sharp turn - Counterclockwise - go over, under turns of first circle

Circle 3 - clockwise - go under, over, over, under the turns of circles one and two

Circle 4 - 180 degree turn over the turns you just went under then clockwise under, over, under, over, under the turns ov the previous circles

Slack in this knot must be taken out slowly. I find that it is easier to hold the working end and gradually take out the slack towards the standing end. In this way the circles are closing in on themselves from inside to outside.

[William Brand]

Thank you for laying out the details. I'm a very visual person and appreciate that touch.

[Coastie04]

Nice! Now, once I tie on some hammock netting to my boat's lifelines (gotta keep the toddler inboard), I might have a project with any leftover line...and possibly have to purchase a bit of extra para cord just for that!

[asemery]

Single strand half hitching is useful for covering all sorts of things

knife sheath tied around cardboard tube

Handle for tool box

carabiner cover (not piritacal but it shows that the ends of the single strand are hidden.

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Here is how I hid the ends

Tie overhand knot around ring, short tag end. Pull down tag end parallel to ring.

Tie half hitch around ring and tag end. Pull tight.

Continue half hitching until desired length. Tie at least 4 loose half hitches reeve Working End through these hitches.

Starting with loop in top center (second loose loop). One at a time. Tighten the remaining loops (four in all)

Pull working end and trim

[asemery]

Nice! Now, once I tie on some hammock netting to my boat's lifelines (gotta keep the toddler inboard), I might have a project with any leftover line...and possibly have to purchase a bit of extra para cord just for that!

If you are interested in making your own nets I have written Instructions (now over 30 years old) that have stood the test of time;

If you are interested in exploring the craft further check out the nets and net making section here. Over a dozen net making related topics.

http://pineapple.myfunforum.org/index.php?c=7

[asemery]

Fobs and bell pulls

Edited September 10, 2016 by asemery