GentlemenScotty Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 (edited) Since pyratin not jist be a warm weather sport.. .. Would our GAoP sailors and servant girls alike go wit Fingerless wool gloves as the solution?? Edited December 30, 2009 by GentlemenScotty
callenish gunner Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 fingerless wool gloves would be perfectly suited for the period
Wayland Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 fingerless wool gloves would be perfectly suited for the period Knitted or cut cloth? Living History not Dying History www.black-bart.co.uk
callenish gunner Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 Both would work the Scots and French were both knitting gloves and stockings. The Orkney, Shetlands and Hebrides major exports during period were wool and knitted goods
GentlemenScotty Posted December 31, 2009 Author Posted December 31, 2009 ..and..and might thee also have a woolen scarf around thee necks ??
PoD Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) These are replicas of the gloves worn by a man pulled out of a peat bog in the shetlands dating from the early 18th century Knitted gloves, or rather gauntlets, (replicas) from among Gunnister man finds. The gloves are well knitted with sophisticated techniques. They are mainly knitted in stocking stitch, with patterning on the cuffs, and decorative arrows on the back of the hands. Edited December 31, 2009 by PoD ...and then I discovered the wine...
Capt. Bo of the WTF co. Posted January 1, 2010 Posted January 1, 2010 (edited) Any images or other documentation of knitted shirts/undershirts for the time? I know the pearl stiich and "sweaters" are mid-late 19th and early twentieth century, but was this older method of knitting used for the upper body garments as well, and how common? It does get rather cold here and I would like to find something period if it exists. thanx. P.S. I don't want to hijack this thread, so I'll split it into it's own if you like. Bo Edited January 1, 2010 by Capt. Bo of the WTF co.
Quartermaster James Posted January 1, 2010 Posted January 1, 2010 Any images or other documentation of knitted shirts/undershirts for the time? I know the pearl stiich and "sweaters" are mid-late 19th and early twentieth century, but was this older method of knitting used for the upper body garments as well, and how common? It does get rather cold here and I would like to find something period if it exists. thanx. P.S. I don't want to hijack this thread, so I'll split it into it's own if you like. Bo If not already known to you Bo, I commend this site: 18th Century Knitting. Also, just enter "Gunnister Man" into your search engine for further finds. Y.M.H.S. QMJ
PoD Posted January 1, 2010 Posted January 1, 2010 I'm waiting for my wife to learn to knit so she can make me the Gunnister Items ...and then I discovered the wine...
Fox Posted January 1, 2010 Posted January 1, 2010 This is a question, not necessarily an argument: do we have any evidence for GAoP fingerless gloves? There's mittens mentioned in the ASC specs, and plenty of gloves with fingers... Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk
Capt. Bo of the WTF co. Posted January 1, 2010 Posted January 1, 2010 Thanks for that. I have read that long ago, and it came up recently on another forum too. Memory has not been serving me well of late. "TMI" from my university course work has me scrambling for recall. Bo
PoD Posted January 1, 2010 Posted January 1, 2010 This is a question, not necessarily an argument: do we have any evidence for GAoP fingerless gloves? There's mittens mentioned in the ASC specs, and plenty of gloves with fingers... This site seems to have fingerless gloves but they are womens from the 18th century. It doesnt specify when in the 18th century though: http://www.history.org/history/clothing/women/wglossary.cfm Theres also a couple of fingerless gloves on this page from around the late 17th early 18th Century: http://www.glovecollectioncatalogue.org/Spence-Collection-at-Bath-23390-23417 Obvioulsy neither of these sites have any specific sailors gloves and fingered gloves seem to be more popular. ...and then I discovered the wine...
Fox Posted January 1, 2010 Posted January 1, 2010 Yar, but both those examples are very much feminine - not exactly what I guess we're talking about here Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk
PoD Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 Yar, but both those examples are very much feminine - not exactly what I guess we're talking about here nope, not unless any crew members have particularly dainty hands Just done the rounds with Hogarth (well his book) and couldnt find any fingerless gloves in there either. I am sure i have seen fingerless gloves in a painting somewhere but the more i think about it the more i think that may have been from the victorian era. ...and then I discovered the wine...
PoD Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 (edited) I've just bought the book "Occupational Costume in England from the 11th Century to 1914" by Phillis Cunnington and Cathrine Lucas and it has a section on Seamen and Fisherfolk. It seems that Fishermen from at least circa 1616 wore mittens similar to these 18th century Knitted Mittens: They are shown in a picture from the Guild Hall Library in London of the Lord Mayor's Day pageant of the Fishmongers Company in 1616. The book also states that, as Foxe said above, the Naval contract of 1706 mentions Grey woollen mittens at sixpence a pair This is a picture of a pair of mittens used by whalers that are covered in rope to make them stronger (although theres no date on these and I believe whaling was more popular in later times): Edited October 12, 2010 by PoD ...and then I discovered the wine...
Bos'n Cross Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 good info, thanks PoD.......now i have to decide if i really do want fingerless gloves......*sigh* -Israel Cross- - Boatswain of the Archangel - . Colonial Seaport Foundation Crew of the Archangel
Silkie McDonough Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 my new hand warmers are made from my old stockings.
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