Captain Tito Posted January 27, 2004 Posted January 27, 2004 Yah I know most Pirates tended to pillage and plunder in warmer climates. But were there any who spent good portions of time raiding during the cold of winter? Were there any who stayed or sailed in colder areas during winters? <span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>Have Parrot Bay, will travel. WILL SHARE TOO!!!</span>
JoshuaRed Posted January 27, 2004 Posted January 27, 2004 Something I've always wondered - exactly when did New England merchants begin shipping ice to the West Indies? If it occurred during the Golden Age, I wonder if pirates ever raided a ship expecting rum, sugar, slaves or molasses and got a hold full of ice instead. And I wonder what they did with it. After all, it must have been a priceless commodity in the southern climes...but I suspect this industry did not come around in time for the pirates to experience it. Here in Maine they used to carve massive chunks of it out of lakes, haul them on horse to icehouses where they were stored in sawdust to insulate them from melting. Then they were loaded on ships and shipped south.
Coastie04 Posted January 27, 2004 Posted January 27, 2004 Though not officially called pirates, what about the Vikings? Rape, pilliage and burn sounds like a pirate motto. I don't know if they attacked much shipping, but definitely towns, and they were seafaring types. Also, I seem to remember a Viking woman who is considered one of the known female pirates, though it may have been more of a folk story than actual history. Before the Navy was great, I'm sure there was piracy around England, which could not be considered a very warm climate. Also, in Boston and New York, there were pirate havens. Go there in the winter and tell me it's a warm climate! Heck, Captain Kidd sailed to Block Island in part of his evasion of authorities. I'm sure there's been piracy almost anywhere there's a coastline and a population center. If you're talking about the extreme latitudes, I think that the scarcity of prey would prevent pirates from bothering. Coastie She was bigger and faster when under full sail With a gale on the beam and the seas o'er the rail
Matty Bottles Posted January 27, 2004 Posted January 27, 2004 Black Bart Roberts raided in Newfoundland. I've never been there, but seeing how far north it is, I can't imagine it being the most temperate of climes. "The time was when ships passing one another at sea backed their topsails and had a 'gam,' and on parting fired guns; but those good old days have gone. People have hardly time nowadays to speak even on the broad ocean, where news is news, and as for a salute of guns, they cannot afford the powder. There are no poetry-enshrined freighters on the sea now; it is a prosy life when we have no time to bid one another good morning." - Capt. Joshua Slocum
Black Deacon Posted January 27, 2004 Posted January 27, 2004 You had many a Pirate in the North sea. Norway, Germany the Baltic areas. Just not as "colorful" as the south seas pirates. -------------- "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty well preserved piece without an even a kiss your hand, but to skid across the line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, smelling of powder, shouting ARRRG!!"
Zorg Posted January 27, 2004 Posted January 27, 2004 As I remember, Capt Reis, one of the Sale' Rovers, raided Greenland at one point, taking somthing like 108 captives to sell as slaves. Must've been a might chilly for the North Africans.....even in summer :) Drop a kitten six feet, and she grins... Drop an elephant six feet, and ya gots yerself a mess ta clean up.... Sometimes bein' the biggest and most powerful is the LAST thing you wanna be..... Mad Ozymandias Zorg the Unsnottered
'Salem Bob' Posted January 27, 2004 Posted January 27, 2004 Black Bart Roberts raided in Newfoundland. I've never been there, but seeing how far north it is, I can't imagine it being the most temperate of climes. ...That would be the understatement of the century. Regarding shipping ice south, I believe it is a mid 19th century phenomenon - the entire ice industry coming about due to needing to preseve perishable goods being shipped a distance via rail. They were in full swing by the 1840's I believe. Leave it to a New Englander to turn a profit on a naturally occuring inconvenience in his neck of the woods.
hitman Posted January 28, 2004 Posted January 28, 2004 Viking's attacked alot of shipping the end of it came when their boats became dated. When the caravels and their high for and aft decks came into being the vicking ships no longer had an edge as given the lack of firearms the methoed of attack was boarding witch was why the caraval's had those high fore and aft decks. If I recall there were pirates who prey'd upon the whale ships these pirates would have had to venture into the colder climes. ( I suppose) THIS BE THE HITMAN WE GOIN QUIET
John Maddox Roberts Posted January 28, 2004 Posted January 28, 2004 Newfoundland seems an unlikely venue for pirates, but it was often the first landfall for ships sailing from Europe and, at the end of their supplies, they'd put in there for fresh water and provisions. Likewise, ships heading from the New World across the Atlantic often put in for stores for the last leg of the voyage. That made it a natural lurking-place for pirates. Also, you could plunder the local fishermen (Newfoundland was the greatest cod-fishery in the world at that time) and lay in some barrels of salt cod to provision your further adventure
JoshuaRed Posted January 29, 2004 Posted January 29, 2004 Actually many pirates including New Low and George Lowther were known to raid cod fishing vessels in Newfoundland for fresh provisions as well as eager recruits who were sick of cod fishing. :)
Coastie04 Posted January 30, 2004 Posted January 30, 2004 As long as we're talking about cold climates, this might amuse some of you. Penguin Coastie She was bigger and faster when under full sail With a gale on the beam and the seas o'er the rail
Captain Tito Posted January 30, 2004 Author Posted January 30, 2004 That was too funny Coastie!! <span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>Have Parrot Bay, will travel. WILL SHARE TOO!!!</span>
Deacon Frye Posted January 30, 2004 Posted January 30, 2004 Now, how can you mention Newfoundland and not talk about Peter Easton?
Black Deacon Posted January 30, 2004 Posted January 30, 2004 As long as we're talking about cold climates, this might amuse some of you.Penguin Coastie or Smack the Penguin -------------- "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty well preserved piece without an even a kiss your hand, but to skid across the line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, smelling of powder, shouting ARRRG!!"
Zorg Posted February 1, 2004 Posted February 1, 2004 Coastie, I may makes that me avatar... lovely Drop a kitten six feet, and she grins... Drop an elephant six feet, and ya gots yerself a mess ta clean up.... Sometimes bein' the biggest and most powerful is the LAST thing you wanna be..... Mad Ozymandias Zorg the Unsnottered
Zorg Posted February 1, 2004 Posted February 1, 2004 "smack the peguin is a lovely time waster as well" Drop a kitten six feet, and she grins... Drop an elephant six feet, and ya gots yerself a mess ta clean up.... Sometimes bein' the biggest and most powerful is the LAST thing you wanna be..... Mad Ozymandias Zorg the Unsnottered
capnwilliam Posted February 1, 2004 Posted February 1, 2004 Aye, I'll second that: Pyrate Queen and I had to drag ourselves away from it! She got a 587 footer; bettering my best of 502 feet. Capt. William "The fight's not over while there's a shot in the locker!"
Deacon Frye Posted February 2, 2004 Posted February 2, 2004 You can extend your range with the help of steroids here: http://games.apropo.ro/ (Thanks, Jeff)
Deacon Frye Posted February 2, 2004 Posted February 2, 2004 BTW, on the basic version the best I did was 568.5, but a teenage girl I know did 619.5. Us old guys are lookin' bad, Cap'n William.
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