Pirates & Freemasons

[Carolina Jolly Roger]

I wanted to read your thoughts on this subject, were Pirates and Freemason's connected ?

I have a book title " The Templar Pirates " by Ernesto Frers.

Which say's The Templar fleets that went missing at La Roschelle later reappered-first in the Mediterranean and later in the Atlantic and Caribbean-to menace the Church's maritime commerce. These Templar vessels often flew the famed Jolly Roger, which took it's name from King Roger ll of Sicily, a famed templar who, during a public spat with the Pope in 1127, was the first to fly this flag.

[Quartermaster James]

Sorry mate, you'll need the 33rd degree handshake before we can answer that.

[Duchess]

Several of the dishware and utensil pieces in the Whydah exhibit were marked with the Freemason symbols. There was a small placard about it, but I don't recall the details.

[Carolina Jolly Roger]

Several of the dishware and utensil pieces in the Whydah exhibit were marked with the Freemason symbols. There was a small placard about it, but I don't recall the details.

Yes, I saw that on a TV special they had on the Whydah, I thought that was interesting, There was also something about it in the book on the Whydah by Barry Clifford.

I believe alot of the GAoP were Masons, alot of the symblos used on their flags had Masonic symbols, the heart, dagger, hourglass and skull and crossbones, which was a ancient symbol used by the Templars.

All of this is very interesting to me.

As my Grandfather was a Freemason.

I have his Masonic apron.

[Fox]

IIRC one item from the Whydah is scored with what may be a Masonic symbol.

I'm interested in the primary evidence for the following:

Templars flying the skull and cross bones from their ships

Any documented connection between Templars and Masons

Daggers on historical pirate flags

[Quartermaster James]

Templars! And Masons! And Pyrates! Oh my!

But seriously, have you considered that the pyramid has only one eye...

...just like a pyrate wearing an eye-patch? Coincidence???

[Fox]

How do we know that the pyramid doesn't have another eye on the other side?

[Duchess]

Then it would be two, one-eyed pirates.

[Quartermaster James]

How do we know that the pyramid doesn't have another eye on the other side?

Shhh! That's a 34th degree question!

[lady constance]

i went to a garage sale about 18 years ago and found actual masons books and rules and tecniques of getting new members and what the society attempted to promote publicly.....th e wife did not know not to sell them and i did not say she should not--i wanted to read them.......

man,it was scary stuff---- psych tricks , word manipulations and machination the highest ups towards and what to tell the lower ranks there........ twiating andperverting of logic qnd reason

even had stuff in thre about "colored" temples versus the no "colored" temples... "hasidic" temples....

the vows taken, the lay out of the building..... et al.....

yuck yuck yuck.....

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[Quartermaster James]

i went to a garage sale about 18 years ago and found actual masons books and rules and tecniques of getting new members and what the society attempted to promote publicly.....th e wife did not know not to sell them and i did not say she should not--i wanted to read them.......

man,it was scary stuff---- psych tricks , word manipulations and machination the highest ups towards and what to tell the lower ranks there........ twiating andperverting of logic qnd reason

even had stuff in thre about "colored" temples versus the no "colored" temples... "hasidic" temples....

the vows taken, the lay out of the building..... et al.....

yuck yuck yuck.....

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There's a lot of interesting meat on those bones.

I'd be careful about "authenticating" anything as "Masonic", despite any outward appearances. It always could be just a product of the publishing arm of the local loonies (think of John Birchers masquerading as Masons - okay, I really dated myself there).

The material on segregation I find more interesting. It makes me wonder about the date of those volumes. Twas most likely progressive to have "colored" temples at all, let alone welcome the local Hasidim.

Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck...