Current Doglock Reproductions

[Black Jack Butler]

I have a problem with my pirate interpretation. I portray a buccaneer of 1670-1680. In looking around for a proper pistol, I find that a doglock would be best. From what I've seen the only ones available are huge monstroseties circa 1640, English Civil War cavalry weapons. Granted that the Queen Anne pistol is available, but that is usually considered to be 1700 and later. I am seeking a piece which would be correctly representative of the period my portrayal represents. I've only found the doglock from Middle Village Trading Company and Loyalist Arms. Are there any ohers available? Are there any older ones, that might be around or available? Thanks.

Black Jack Butler

[Red Sea Trade]

The only other doglock pistols I have found are beautiful, frightfully expensive custom jobs. John Buck makes some beauties, as does Tattershall Arms. I also saw one by Leonard Day on trackofthewolf.com recently, but it was going for around $1300.

I have one of the 1640 monstrosities you mentioned, but I can dream...

[Ivan Henry aka Moose]

There is another Doglock pistol out there that's "a little" smaller than the 1615 "Horse Pistol"

I have a problem with my pirate interpretation. I portray a buccaneer of 1670-1680. In looking around for a proper pistol, I find that a doglock would be best. From what I've seen the only ones available are huge monstroseties circa 1640, English Civil War cavalry weapons. Granted that the Queen Anne pistol is available, but that is usually considered to be 1700 and later. I am seeking a piece which would be correctly representative of the period my portrayal represents. I've only found the doglock from Middle Village Trading Company and Loyalist Arms. Are there any ohers available? Are there any older ones, that might be around or available? Thanks.

Black Jack Butler

[Commodore Swab]

Im working on a smaller doglock now. Im still waiting for the lock to arrive (any day now) and should be pouring the bronze barrel (blunderbuss) within the week. When I get some of these done I will post pictures. Have you found any pictures or descriptions of what you are looking for?

[Black Jack Butler]

Vintage, I can't wait to see what your doglock blunderbuss looks like. To be honest I'm working off a sort of dead reckoning. Taking the 1640's doglock and comparing it to the Queen Anne pistol. I guess I'm thinking Sam Colt and the Walker Colt, which got three downsizes as Dragoon models. When you see the Queen Anne, pistol, you just know that there are some intermediate doglock pistols. Locks could have been made a bit smaller and barrels lighter, conseqently the whole piece would have been shorter and lighter. The only other weapon might be a Spanish Miguelet. I am working offThe Buccaneer's Realmsame author as The Sea Rovers Practice). And to be perfectly honest my knowledge of black powder weapons is from a later period, from doing Civil War Reenacting.

Mooseworth, I wish you could tell me who offers this different version of the doglock. I do know it's not Pedersoli. I looked. Any help you cold give me would be appreciated.

Thank you all.

[blackjohn]

Loyalist's has a 12" barrel.

That's not too huge, compared to the 16" on the English lock.

http://www.loyalistarms.com/doglokpistl.html

[hurricane]

We all use the Loyalist one for our presentations of Buccaneer. They are great weapons, accurate, reliable and within the realm of the time period in design. For the price, you can't beat them and very similar to the ones excavated from Port Royal, circa 1692 at the time of the great earthquake (sorry earthquakes).

-- Hurricane

Edited June 27, 2009 by hurricane

[Mungo]

We all use the Loyalist one for our presentations of Buccaneer.

-- Hurricane

Second on the Loyalist Arms and Repair doglock. I've two of them, and they've been brick solid, and the service from the folks at Loyalist is amazing. I'd love to head up the Maritimes and meet the lads.

M

[Commodore Swab]

Ive been doing a fair bit of conversing with the lads at Loyalist and once I sell a piece or two and have some funds I may be expanding and possilby selling to them. I should be going to the foundry with the Viceroy and pouring out several barrels tomorrow.

CS

[Black Jack Butler]

Gentlemen:

Thank you one and all for your comments and assistance. Hurricane, can you give me a weight on the Loyalist Arms doglock and how do carry one or more of them? Got to admit that this would be my first non precussion cap black powder weapon; so my knowledge is limited. I'm here to learn.

Black Jack Butlere

[hurricane]

It weighs in at 3 lbs on the dot. I wear mine with the belt hook. When I wear more than one I simple slot them on the belt or on my baldric with the belt hook. They hold nicely there and look pretty bitchin' as a representation. Don't bother with the black version - the paint chips off and they end up looking crappy after a little use.

-- Hurricane

[Commodore Swab]

Well it seems you will need to wait longer to see what it will look like, the Viceroy went down to Mexico and we were unable to pour my barrels before he left so it will be delayed at least a month or two.

[Asolfr]

I have a problem with my pirate interpretation. I portray a buccaneer of 1670-1680. In looking around for a proper pistol, I find that a doglock would be best. From what I've seen the only ones available are huge monstroseties circa 1640, English Civil War cavalry weapons. Granted that the Queen Anne pistol is available, but that is usually considered to be 1700 and later. I am seeking a piece which would be correctly representative of the period my portrayal represents. I've only found the doglock from Middle Village Trading Company and Loyalist Arms. Are there any ohers available? Are there any older ones, that might be around or available? Thanks.

Black Jack Butler

An option would be to buy a chosen pistol...say a discounted price, cut down the barrel and reshape the front stock, you get a good deal, a shorter pistol that is period and its custom, if you do this work, you can stick yer chess out an raiz ye hed up high, ya kin tell all tha others that ya did yer very own gunsmithin.

If you cant , then some of us who are training (a huum hmmm) may be persuaded to fix it for ye

Edited July 23, 2009 by Asolfr