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The difference is really more of an evolution of the shape-supporting form. Originally starting with the modestly supportive bodice, in time and with additional stiffening they became stays (GAoP), which later become a corset in the Victorian era. Some further reference can be had here http://www.marariley.net/stays/staystimeline.htm.

I have worn both stays and corsets ~ I have always found them to be comfortable, but, keep in mind, I take especial care in the fitting process. I prefer a more rigid frame, and do not care as much for bodice style, half boned, or corded stays. However, keep in mind they are movement restrictive.

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Ummm...I don't know what the difference between the two are, but if some nubile wench were to model some for me, so I could get a good hands-on feel for the subject, I could probably tell you...after a bit, and a few days rest...

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Hmmmm generally speaking, corsets are a supportive undergarment, which occasionally, depending on the time frame, may be worn so they are seen, basically in the GAoP, you shouldn't see them much on common/proper ladies.... a bodice on the other hand is the upper part of a lady's garment... it can be the top of a gown, a separate jacket like object etc... but is the bit that goes around the body.... bodice can also mean Bodies which is an old term for corest or stays...


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basically in the GAoP, you shouldn't see them much on common/proper ladies....

Let me clarify this... in the GAoP they should be worn, but you don't usually see them without some sort of garment over them

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no what?


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Let me clarify this... in the GAoP they should be worn, but you don't usually see them without some sort of garment over them

Perhaps in YER quarters that be th' case.....I prefer t' know what they be hide'n, far too much room there for hidden treachery.

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**slaps MadL upside the head** In order to know what they are hiding, they need to be removed....geeze do I have to teach ye all EVERYTHING? :blink:


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The difference is really more of an evolution of the shape-supporting form. Originally starting with the modestly supportive bodice, in time and with additional stiffening they became stays (GAoP), which later become a corset in the Victorian era. Some further reference can be had here http://www.marariley.net/stays/staystimeline.htm.

I have worn both stays and corsets ~ I have always found them to be comfortable, but, keep in mind, I take especial care in the fitting process. I prefer a more rigid frame, and do not care as much for bodice style, half boned, or corded stays. However, keep in mind they are movement restrictive.

My Madam Mary Diamond,

I'm so confused. Would you mind posting some images of yourself modeling the differences for me, I mean us? For purely educational purposes of course. . .

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:blink: they have t' model them; assemble them like a ship in a bottle do they???

....gee, I sure hope they use Elmer's glue, it do naught hold up well in water! B)

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Hmmmm generally speaking, corsets are a supportive undergarment, which occasionally, depending on the time frame, may be worn so they are seen, basically in the GAoP, you shouldn't see them much on common/proper ladies.... a bodice on the other hand is the upper part of a lady's garment... it can be the top of a gown, a separate jacket like object etc... but is the bit that goes around the body.... bodice can also mean Bodies which is an old term for corest or stays...

Thank you for providing the additional clarification, Captain!

My Madam Mary Diamond,

I'm so confused. Would you mind posting some images of yourself modeling the differences for me, I mean us? For purely educational purposes of course. . .

My Sweet Stynky ~ B)

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Oh, good Lord, gents!

Stynky... and others out there a might bit curious... alas, pictures escape us at the moment to put up. I haven't any readily available to post the difference between the bodice and the corset/stays.

But... for those of ye still in the dark and haven't a clue... check out Jas. Townsed for example:

http://jas-townsend.com/index.php?cPath=2&...edc617ca4ca936c

The bodice ye see at Ren Faires worn by a good many women, well... honestly, I have yet t' see historical documentation on those types fo' th' 18th c at least.

Someday will get ye all some piccies of the difference, mates.

Sterling and Diamond pretty much said it all. Corset/stays = undergarment that is fully boned or half boned. Bodice = NOT an undergarment that is partially boned or not boned at all.

And I prefer wearin' stays than I do a bodice. Again, it's GREAT back support.

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Corset or bodice???

No thanks, they only get in the way.... I'll just have the side salad!!! ;)

That quote from the Mel Brooks movie History of the World Part 1, the French Revolution part, comes to mind, "And don't wear anything....complicated." LOL! ;)

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