JohnnyTarr Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 What is the difference between a corset and a bodice? Also for you women out their which would you rather wear? Git up of your asses, set up those glasses I'm drinking this place dry.
Mary Diamond Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 The difference is really more of an evolution of the shape-supporting form. Originally starting with the modestly supportive bodice, in time and with additional stiffening they became stays (GAoP), which later become a corset in the Victorian era. Some further reference can be had here http://www.marariley.net/stays/staystimeline.htm. I have worn both stays and corsets ~ I have always found them to be comfortable, but, keep in mind, I take especial care in the fitting process. I prefer a more rigid frame, and do not care as much for bodice style, half boned, or corded stays. However, keep in mind they are movement restrictive. Oooh, shiny!
JohnnyTarr Posted December 24, 2008 Author Posted December 24, 2008 Thx Mary. So they are are basically the same thing just different time periods. Git up of your asses, set up those glasses I'm drinking this place dry.
Capn Bob Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 Ummm...I don't know what the difference between the two are, but if some nubile wench were to model some for me, so I could get a good hands-on feel for the subject, I could probably tell you...after a bit, and a few days rest... Damn, thats sharp!
Capt. Sterling Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 Hmmmm generally speaking, corsets are a supportive undergarment, which occasionally, depending on the time frame, may be worn so they are seen, basically in the GAoP, you shouldn't see them much on common/proper ladies.... a bodice on the other hand is the upper part of a lady's garment... it can be the top of a gown, a separate jacket like object etc... but is the bit that goes around the body.... bodice can also mean Bodies which is an old term for corest or stays... "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/
Capt. Sterling Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 (edited) basically in the GAoP, you shouldn't see them much on common/proper ladies.... Let me clarify this... in the GAoP they should be worn, but you don't usually see them without some sort of garment over them Edited December 24, 2008 by Capt. Sterling "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/
Dutchman Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 oh nonono sterling- well there ya have it!
Capt. Sterling Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 no what? "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/
MadL Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 Let me clarify this... in the GAoP they should be worn, but you don't usually see them without some sort of garment over them Perhaps in YER quarters that be th' case.....I prefer t' know what they be hide'n, far too much room there for hidden treachery. ~All skill be in vain if an angel pisses down th' barrel o' yer flintlock! So keep yer cutlass sharp, 'n keep her close!
Capt. Sterling Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 **slaps MadL upside the head** In order to know what they are hiding, they need to be removed....geeze do I have to teach ye all EVERYTHING? "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/
Stynky Tudor Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 The difference is really more of an evolution of the shape-supporting form. Originally starting with the modestly supportive bodice, in time and with additional stiffening they became stays (GAoP), which later become a corset in the Victorian era. Some further reference can be had here http://www.marariley.net/stays/staystimeline.htm.I have worn both stays and corsets ~ I have always found them to be comfortable, but, keep in mind, I take especial care in the fitting process. I prefer a more rigid frame, and do not care as much for bodice style, half boned, or corded stays. However, keep in mind they are movement restrictive. My Madam Mary Diamond, I'm so confused. Would you mind posting some images of yourself modeling the differences for me, I mean us? For purely educational purposes of course. . .
MadL Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 they have t' model them; assemble them like a ship in a bottle do they??? ....gee, I sure hope they use Elmer's glue, it do naught hold up well in water! ~All skill be in vain if an angel pisses down th' barrel o' yer flintlock! So keep yer cutlass sharp, 'n keep her close!
Mary Diamond Posted December 25, 2008 Posted December 25, 2008 Hmmmm generally speaking, corsets are a supportive undergarment, which occasionally, depending on the time frame, may be worn so they are seen, basically in the GAoP, you shouldn't see them much on common/proper ladies.... a bodice on the other hand is the upper part of a lady's garment... it can be the top of a gown, a separate jacket like object etc... but is the bit that goes around the body.... bodice can also mean Bodies which is an old term for corest or stays... Thank you for providing the additional clarification, Captain! My Madam Mary Diamond, I'm so confused. Would you mind posting some images of yourself modeling the differences for me, I mean us? For purely educational purposes of course. . . My Sweet Stynky ~ No. Oooh, shiny!
Rats Posted December 25, 2008 Posted December 25, 2008 (edited) Corset or bodice??? No thanks, they only get in the way.... I'll just have the side salad!!! Edited December 25, 2008 by Rats No rest for the wicked! Wait a minute... that's me?!
LadyBarbossa Posted December 25, 2008 Posted December 25, 2008 Oh, good Lord, gents! Stynky... and others out there a might bit curious... alas, pictures escape us at the moment to put up. I haven't any readily available to post the difference between the bodice and the corset/stays. But... for those of ye still in the dark and haven't a clue... check out Jas. Townsed for example: http://jas-townsend.com/index.php?cPath=2&...edc617ca4ca936c The bodice ye see at Ren Faires worn by a good many women, well... honestly, I have yet t' see historical documentation on those types fo' th' 18th c at least. Someday will get ye all some piccies of the difference, mates. Sterling and Diamond pretty much said it all. Corset/stays = undergarment that is fully boned or half boned. Bodice = NOT an undergarment that is partially boned or not boned at all. And I prefer wearin' stays than I do a bodice. Again, it's GREAT back support. ~Lady B Tempt Fate! an' toss 't all t' Hell!" "I'm completely innocent of whatever crime I've committed." The one, the only,... the infamous!
Christine Posted December 25, 2008 Posted December 25, 2008 Corset or bodice???No thanks, they only get in the way.... I'll just have the side salad!!! That quote from the Mel Brooks movie History of the World Part 1, the French Revolution part, comes to mind, "And don't wear anything....complicated." LOL!
lady renee Posted December 25, 2008 Posted December 25, 2008 i would like to wear a bodice. a pirate's life for me(gold, rum and men).
MadL Posted December 25, 2008 Posted December 25, 2008 We's would like Lady Renee t' wear a bodice too! ~All skill be in vain if an angel pisses down th' barrel o' yer flintlock! So keep yer cutlass sharp, 'n keep her close!
JohnnyTarr Posted December 26, 2008 Author Posted December 26, 2008 and only the bodice Git up of your asses, set up those glasses I'm drinking this place dry.
MadL Posted December 26, 2008 Posted December 26, 2008 bod'us wanta see ye in a bodice!! ~All skill be in vain if an angel pisses down th' barrel o' yer flintlock! So keep yer cutlass sharp, 'n keep her close!
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