Captain Midnight Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 Ahoy mates! I am currently customizing my doglock dragoon pistol from Loyalist Arms. I am specifically looking for a grotesque face style brass butt cap that would fit it, similar to the ones on the Queen Anne pistols. I have found one at Dixie Gunworks, but does anyone know of anywhere else that supplies these? Thanks in advance for any help! "Now then, me bullies! Would you rather do the gallows dance, and hang in chains 'til the crows pluck your eyes from your rotten skulls? Or would you feel the roll of a stout ship beneath your feet again?" ---Captain William Kidd--- (1945)
Gentleman of Fortune Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 Just sent you an e-mail Greg aka GOF Come aboard my pirate re-enacting site http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/ Where you will find lots of information on building your authentic Pirate Impression!
Kenneth Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 did you try? http://www.muzzleloaderbuilderssupply.com/ "Without caffine, I'd have no personality at all"
Captain Midnight Posted May 18, 2007 Author Posted May 18, 2007 Thanks Greg and Kenneth! Both sites are awesome! I should be able to find exactly what I need there. "Now then, me bullies! Would you rather do the gallows dance, and hang in chains 'til the crows pluck your eyes from your rotten skulls? Or would you feel the roll of a stout ship beneath your feet again?" ---Captain William Kidd--- (1945)
Gentleman of Fortune Posted May 19, 2007 Posted May 19, 2007 Alright you crafty little bugger... lets see pics of what you have done so far! Greg aka GoF Come aboard my pirate re-enacting site http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/ Where you will find lots of information on building your authentic Pirate Impression!
Jim Dandy Posted May 20, 2007 Posted May 20, 2007 You might want to try here as well: http://hometown.aol.com/hangfire1755/index...eloaders_k.html Damn me if I can make up my mind between their Jack Sparrow pistol and the Muzzleloaders Supply Early Georgian... I like the dragoons, but I'm not certain I want to cart such a huge weapon around on my hip when I'm pig hunting in brush country.... Anyhow, they offer both brass and silver grotesque faces. Take your pick.
Captain Midnight Posted May 21, 2007 Author Posted May 21, 2007 Well, after having some serious thought on the matter at hand, I've decided not to go with a grotesque mask butt cap, but rather this one instead: It's from Muzzleloader's Builder's Supply, and is cast from an original piece from an English Georgian pistol ca. 1680. The time period of the piece matches my pistol perfectly, and since I prefer to try and keep my gear and clothing along historically authentic lines, I feel it is the best choice for me. I don't know of any existing original dragoon-type pistols with mask butt caps, does anyone else? I don't know for sure that it wasn't done, but I do know for sure this piece is historically accurate for my weapon. Anyway, thanks, mates, for all your help! And Greg, I will indeed post a photo of it in this thread when I am finished with it. I have already stripped and re-finished the wood with a hand-rubbed linseed oil finish, boy I tell ya, those Indians sure don't know how to finish wood, the crappy oil or whatever finish they use was a real b*%# to remove! "Now then, me bullies! Would you rather do the gallows dance, and hang in chains 'til the crows pluck your eyes from your rotten skulls? Or would you feel the roll of a stout ship beneath your feet again?" ---Captain William Kidd--- (1945)
Tar Bucket Bill Posted June 4, 2007 Posted June 4, 2007 Captain Midnight, How did you remove that finish by the way? I also have one of the Loyalist Arms doglocks. -Tar Bucket Bill
Captain Midnight Posted June 4, 2007 Author Posted June 4, 2007 Ahoy Bill, I first sanded the wood down with various grades of sandpaper, going from coarsest to fine, but as you probably well know, the finish on the stocks of these weapons is very oily or greasy feeling in your hands, so after I got it all sanded down, I turned my kitchen oven on at about 250 degrees and put the wooden stock in for about twenty or twenty-five minutes or so. The heat helped bring more of that oil to the surface, after which I wiped off the wood and sanded some more with fine sand paper. After all that, I refinished the stock using a hand rubbed boiled linseed/tung oil finish (I used two coats, but three would be good). It looks a heck of a lot better! I don't know what kind of nasty oil the Indians use for their wood finish, but it is nasty, inferior stuff. Several years ago, I bought a surplus Ishapore .308 caliber Enfield rifle which was made in India, and it had the same icky oil finish on it as well. Wonderful, well made rifle, but the finish sucks! "Now then, me bullies! Would you rather do the gallows dance, and hang in chains 'til the crows pluck your eyes from your rotten skulls? Or would you feel the roll of a stout ship beneath your feet again?" ---Captain William Kidd--- (1945)
Tar Bucket Bill Posted June 5, 2007 Posted June 5, 2007 Thanks for the tips Captain Midnight. I've had my Loyalist Arms doglock about two and a half years, and it sounds like mine has a different finish than yours -- not a really oily finish. It feels rather dry. I'm not sure what that means. I've also noticed recently that the one I bought looks a little different from the one they have on their website now too. I think it's mainly a different buttcap. I don't know what kind of wood my stock is made from. It looks like it is stained to resemble walnut though. Dark brown and slightly reddish. Good luck with the project, and I hope to learn of your progress and see additional photos on this web site as you proceed. Cool project. -Tar Bucket Bill
Grimm Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 I believe that a lot of the Indian guns use "rosewood",which I seem to recall hearing is a Teak.So it would be naturally oily,and a bear to re-finish.Don't know for sure about your pistols,but speaking from experience teak is heavy,oily,and a B@$t@rd to refinish. Looks great done right,though.
Rats Posted June 14, 2007 Posted June 14, 2007 Good Choice!!! The only thing holding me back from picking one up was always the buttplate!! Might have to rethink it now!!! Well done!! No rest for the wicked! Wait a minute... that's me?!
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