Lady Alyx Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 ...there...that's more like it! Much much better! Applause ~~~~Sailing Westward Bound~~~~ Lady Alyx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captjacksparrowsavvvy Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 I wish there had been more of DMC's "Scruffyington" because he was damn hot and sexy! He was too clean and proper in AWE and his story was cut short. There are many photos of Norrington on the internet that are not in the movie so I believe that many scenes were cut. Hopefully there will be a director's cut of all 3 movies and we'll see them as they were first created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Jack Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 I wish there had been more of DMC's "Scruffyington" because he was damn hot and sexy! He was too clean and proper in AWE and his story was cut short. There are many photos of Norrington on the internet that are not in the movie so I believe that many scenes were cut. Hopefully there will be a director's cut of all 3 movies and we'll see them as they were first created. For Disney, where there is money . . . there is a way. (At least that is my impression. Those that work for the MOU$E, please feel free to correct me.) (I MISS the days of Walt, when values and quality drove the company, rather than what ever makes the most $$$$- ) -John "Tartan Jack" Wages, of South Carolina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misson Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 You know, I was watching the first movie the other day and it occurred to me...Norrington's the only main character who is actually ethical in that movie. Everyone else is either admittedly unethical (Sparrow) or situationally ethical (The Swanns & Will). But Norrington warns Gibbs about using mysticism to upset the passengers and crew in the beginning, pretty much follows the King's orders throughout (this was unbelievably important during this era as I'm finding out in my reading. The King was a chosen instrument of God by their beliefs), and is even willing to give up Elizabeth when he determines that she really doesn't love him at all. (Which actually would have been extremely unlikely during the era as well, but this is a modern movie. Point of fact, Elizabeth wouldn't have been attracted to a tradesman based on her upbringing.) Even when he lets Depp go, he only gives him a head start to be sporting, as I read it. Of course, being a pirate movie, that sort of makes him a villain and hard to like in the framework of the movie. He's really sort of a neat character. When he really became interesting in the second movie, he was still carrying out the orders of the King and the favored East India company, albeit in a surreptitious way if I remember it right. (I haven't seen that movie since it was in the theaters. Norrington is neat, but not enough to carry that opus for me.) "I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.” -Oscar Wilde "If we all worked on the assumption that what is accepted is really true, there would be little hope of advance." -Orville Wright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Syren Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 I actually liked him clean and proper..he was a commanding figure with his men but around the ladies..he seemed..Uncertain..it made him sweet..at least that is my opinion. I was really upset to see him die in the movie...Bring Him Back! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/Dara286/trident01-11.png If you got a dream chase it, cause a dream won't chase you back...(Cody Johnson Till you Can't) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ransom Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Hey, they brought back Barbossa, they brought back Jack, so, no reason they can't bring back Norrington. We never really saw him die, we just saw him pass out from pain, right! He's been in sickbay all this time, and will return in movie 4. One can ony hope! ...schooners, islands, and maroons and buccaneers and buried gold... You can do everything right, strictly according to procedure, on the ocean, and it'll still kill you. But if you're a good navigator, a least you'll know where you were when you died.......From The Ship Killer by Justin Scott. "Well, that's just maddeningly unhelpful."....Captain Jack Sparrow Found in the Ruins — Unique Jewelry Found in the Ruins — Personal Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Syren Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Aye Im so hoping he does come back..he still has much of his story to tell and he needs to find a Lady to love..not like Miss Swann! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/Dara286/trident01-11.png If you got a dream chase it, cause a dream won't chase you back...(Cody Johnson Till you Can't) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misson Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 You know, in a way...I hesitate to say it...but it really sort of made sense to kill him off. I mean, there is more they could have done with him and I think he would have been a good character and all, but...they run the risk of doing with him what they did with Murtogg and Mulroy. That just didn't seem to work as well as I think they hoped it would. Besides, they had to kill some major character off to give the story gravity. But I liked him too. I liked him clean and struggling both. "I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.” -Oscar Wilde "If we all worked on the assumption that what is accepted is really true, there would be little hope of advance." -Orville Wright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Fiddle Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Have to say I am with Misson on this. Killing Norrington made sense. He redeems himself a little at the end, but despite his honesty and valour, he tried to work within the rules, be part of the system. And that sort of thing is the opposite of the pirate ethos being celebrated / explored in the films. He dies because that is what happens to people who don't seek freedom. They get crushed in the gears of the machines to which they chain themselves. At least that is my take on him... Your most and obliged humble servant, William Dezoma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"Bloody" Bill Marley Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 wonderful imagery, beautiful language... I give it an A +. jk, great point Fiddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Bess Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 We never really saw him die, we just saw him pass out from pain, right! He's been in sickbay all this time, and will return in movie 4. No... No, I think that was dying. Lost his sword into the bargan as well! Well, you may not realize it but your looking at the remains of what was once a very handsome woman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ransom Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Okay, it was a stretch, but, hey, ya gotta give a girl an A for effort. ...schooners, islands, and maroons and buccaneers and buried gold... You can do everything right, strictly according to procedure, on the ocean, and it'll still kill you. But if you're a good navigator, a least you'll know where you were when you died.......From The Ship Killer by Justin Scott. "Well, that's just maddeningly unhelpful."....Captain Jack Sparrow Found in the Ruins — Unique Jewelry Found in the Ruins — Personal Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misson Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 He even died with integrity, turning down Davy Jones. No coward, James Norrington. Good character. Good non-pirate. "I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.” -Oscar Wilde "If we all worked on the assumption that what is accepted is really true, there would be little hope of advance." -Orville Wright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Bess Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Okay, it was a stretch, but, hey, ya gotta give a girl an A for effort. (chuckle) I know.... Well, you may not realize it but your looking at the remains of what was once a very handsome woman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HildeKitten Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 To be honest I think it would be a good idea to leave all the characters that have left the story _out_ of any new movies. Otherwise we'll still be stuck in subplots and what not. IF there are to be more movies, I would rather they focus on Jack, Barbossa and possibly new characters and a whole new plot. Rather than a mishmash of old and new that ends up being not quite as good as it could have been. House of Secrets Incorporated Fashion and costume design For all your piracy needs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misson Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 To be honest I think it would be a good idea to leave all the characters that have left the story _out_ of any new movies.Otherwise we'll still be stuck in subplots and what not. That's what I think of as the Back to the Future Running Sequel Subplot trap. Subplots can be neat if they're cleverly handled...or they can be a real pain in the...Calypso. (From The Sting satire, Mad Magazine, December 1974, p. 6) "I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.” -Oscar Wilde "If we all worked on the assumption that what is accepted is really true, there would be little hope of advance." -Orville Wright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Blydes Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Norrington was a tragic character right from the start. His values didn’t match those around him and when he went against those values (Letting Jack go at the end of the 1st movie) the repercussions almost destroyed him. His compass lost its direction, like Jack’s. He attempted to regain that direction, doing what he thought was right (giving DJ’s heart to Becket). Once again the repercussions were not what he expected, causing conflict to those values that were really still inside him, and were all along. When the situation presented itself he realized the only truism that was constant was his love for Elizabeth. With all that was occurring around them, Elizabeth still cared and respected him. Reflected in her eyes was what he really was. That gave him the strength to do what was right. He sacrificed himself to help them. And while dieing Davy Jones presented him with the choice of death or joining the crew he game JD the old “Screw you with nobs on.” A tragic character who found some redemption. William Blydes I don't get lost, I EXPLORE! Adventures on the High Seas (refitted and back on station!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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